Because the content the affiliate is using isn't going to be found on the site they are promoting. A surfer sees pics of John X on a blog that is promoting a site where John X is nowhere to be found.Originally Posted by Lee
And besides, Ounique and Maxpixels aren't exclusive content.
It doesnt matter, for the last 10+ years people have been using purchased content to sell memberships to sites that didnt have that exact same content set or model in the members area, it never hurt sales then and it doesnt hurt sales now unless you are promoting solo model sites then yeah, that just doesnt make sense $0.02Because the content the affiliate is using isn't going to be found on the site they are promoting. A surfer sees pics of John X on a blog that is promoting a site where John X is nowhere to be found.
And besides, Ounique and Maxpixels aren't exclusive content.
Can you not see the vicious circle we [the entire industry] has become caught in? 4 sample pics became to little, so we offered 10, 10 became to little, so we offered 20, 20 became to little so we offered 4 exclusive content pics, 4 became to little to we offered 10 exclusive content pics, the pic train left the station so we offered 10 second movie clips, 10 second movie clips became to small so we'll offer 30 seconds, 30 second movie clips became to small so we'll offer 1 minute movie clips, 1 minute movie clips will become to small so we'll offer 2 minute movie clips, 2 minute movie clips will become to small so we'll offer 1 minute exclusive content movie clips, 1 minute exclusive content movie clips will become to small so we'll offer 2 minute exclusive content movie clips, 2 minute exclusive content movie clips will become to small so well offer 1 exclusive content scene....
See a pattern there at all? I do, its been happening slowly but surely over the past 8 years and its going to continue until surfers are being given everything they want for free, we dont need to be increasing the quality or quantity of content being offered, we need to reduce the amounts and quality (in some form) otherwise it wont be long until every paysite needs to start giving away free DVDs with every membership.
Surfers are getting more and more demanding, and we're giving in to them.
It happened on the straight side of the industry a couple of years ago, now all those straight companies are launching their own gay programs and guess what, they are going to kill the gay porn marketplace just like they did the straight one, and we're going to contribute to it, because if we dont, they'll get all the traffic and sales.
More, higher quality, exclusive content being used a 'teasers' isnt the way to plan for our long term profitability.
Go in to your local ice-cream parlor and ask for a sample of every flavor they have on offer and walk out without buying anything. The next day, do the same thing, then the day after that and the day after that, how many times do you think you could get away with it before the owner gives you bigger samples of their ice-cream?
Now imagine if EVERY 'customer' did the same thing and nobody bought until they were being given waffle cones with 2 scoops of ice-cream in them, what would happen to the store?
Regards,
Lee
Yeah, that works really great for a blog entry. :crazy:
Example blog entry using Ounique photos...
"Uknakedmen has a really hot guy this week on their site. His name is Ben and he's an Irish lad with a hard trim body and a big cock. He kind looks like this guy here, except this guy is not Irish. In fact I have no idea where he's from. Oh, and you've probably seen this picture years ago a thousand times."
Oh yeah, that is really going to make sales go through the roof! :thumbsup:
You quoted me before i had a chance to finish my edits LOL
Also for the record, blogs arent the be-all and end-all of traffic, there are plenty of other places out there to get 'hits' hehe
Regards,
Lee
Yes, but I maintain that sponsor provided content will almost always sell a site better than generic licensed content.You quoted me before i had a chance to finish my edits LOL
Also for the record, blogs arent the be-all and end-all of traffic, there are plenty of other places out there to get 'hits' hehe
Im not denying that fact, when it comes to sites that feature single models and thats all they talk about, but why should sponsors have to give out THOUSANDS of high quality uncensored images and movie clips anyway, whether its exclusive or licensed?
Why isnt 10-20 low quality teaser pics enough for webmasters to sell their sponsors sites any more? Its because of 1 of 2 reasons...
1) There is already to much free content out there.
2) Webmasters dont know how to sell their sponsors product.
I can sell site memberships using purely text ads, so can hundreds of thousands of other people, if they couldnt, places like Yahoo and Google wouldnt be making millions each year from their PPC services.... Services that dont have any 'preview' pics involved at all, the traffic goes directly to the sponsors sites.
If i want to use images or movies to sell a sponsors site, ill use my own content, that i purchased specifically for that purpose, not the same sponsor content that thousands of other webmasters have already diluted on their galleries and blog entries.
Regards,
Lee
Even if you don't provide affiliates with member-area access to snag the content they want, they can still post buttloads of content in one place just by providing an exhaustive linklist of every single hosted gallery you provide all from one easy-access page. Or set up a fansite style blog in which they only feature one model's galleries. It's frustrating, but I don't know if it does any good to argue that holding back content is going to solve the problem.
With small sites like ours trying to compete for exposure with big huge corporate sites with tons of affiliates and scads of free content, we have to do SOMETHING just to be seen by surfers. I have noticed that even some of our affiliates who (sometimes unintentionally because it's so common among tgp and blog promoters) abuse the free content by posting links to hundreds of our pics from one page wind up making sales that we wouldn't otherwise have. Maybe we assume too often that surfers seeing loads of a model's free content everywhere is a bad thing when in fact it is giving surfers' the perception that s/he is "famous" and he's missing out on something to have never joined his site (I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who runs solo girl/guy/tranny sites).
Yes, I think we would make a lot more money if there wasn't more than a handful of free porn out there and it were the good old days but it's not and those days aren't coming back so for now it makes sense to focus on the positive and recognize that if our content is unique and our personalities shine through AND we have more to offer members (live shows, video, spycams, frequent updates, etc.) than they'll ever get from free galleries then we can get those freeloaders and supposed two-pump chumps to convert.
BTW, I would rather have members (and yes, they do become members, these relics of the past who still get off on pictures) who are aroused by striptease style photographs and even non-nude content than these desensitized guys who need to see people fucked through their ears and every accessible hole possible by foot-long monster-dicks in high definition in order to shoot a load. There are still a lot of people in the world who not only LIKE softcore and still images, but actually prefer it, particularly when it comes to certain niches and fetishes. Anyway, if a guy is looking to jerk off to a solo guy masturbating, if he has 40 photos from dressed to cumshot that he can download and watch in a slideshow, it's not all that much different from seeing a video. More than 20 pics really is way too much, I think, but again, what can you do except focus on the positive and make sure as a site owner you have a hook for getting them to want more.
I suppose it's possible that the more free content you give away, the more likely a freebie-surfer will download more of your content with your domain name stamped on them, will jerk off to it more often than other people's and develop a really positive association with it, and eventually be such a fan and so curious that he finally joins. In the mainstream world a surfer usually visits 9-11 times before purchasing something; I have always tried to apply that to our sites and not assume all porn purchases must be compulsive first-timers; if you work on branding and getting return visitors who become loyal and see that your sites are always fresh (and more dynamic than other sites) then eventually they will buy.
Also, for personality sites like ours it doesn't make ANY sense for people to use bought content to promote us. I've never seen it be effective for any of our affiliates.
FYI: I wouldn't even have bothered posting except for needing to keep my account active. It's always fun to come to this board, though, and see these issues discussed in a rational and coherent way where on the straight webmaster boards the first person who even suggests too much free content is being given away is flamed to hell for being a heretic.
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