Penis Pills - What's Wrong With The Adult Industry

[JustMe]

Sounds like the product didn't work for you and you want revenge. Sorry for your short comings...... :gossip:

Why is it, that everyone that tries to defend these products, including you Mr. This Is My First Post On GWW, say that exact same thing?

Is trying to make people feel embarassed the only tactic your industry has to defend itself? Oooh, we'll make people afraid to say anything by attacking their penis size? Grow up.

I have a 7" penis when erect if you want to know, and I'm happy with it. It's not huge, but my partner of 6.5 years likes it, and that's all I care about. I never have, and never would use any of these products, even if my penis was only 4" big. Why? BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WORK!

Now, what the hell does my dick have to do with medical doctors saying Penis Pills DO NOT WORK!

[Xstr8guy]

BoyAlley you sound like someone who needs to get laid...

I think boyalley deserves an apology.

[ScottMN]

OK, first of all, I can't believe you're taking so much time our of your day to attack us - don't you have work to do? And I'm sure you'll counter this comment with something like "I always have time to fight for the things I believe in." Ha, for some reason, I think you're just one of those people who LOVES to get mad.

Secondly, I love to argue with people like you! You actually admitted you didn't even visit our customer forum. Talk about blinding yourself to the possiblity that you're wrong.

Thirdly, you're talking to me about morals? I'm sorry, are you a doctor? Maybe a social worker? Possibly you've quit your day job to help children in the Sudan? NO!!! I'm guessing you peddle porn for a living!!! Now I love the adult industry, enjoy my porn and am thankful to be a part of the business, but porn isn't exactly known in the greater community for it's stand up morals. Many people would look at you in the porn industry, arguing with me in the penis enlargement industry about morals and die laughing. This is the stuff jokes are made of.

Fourth, we sell ALL of our products with an exercise program as a SYSTEM. We have never sold herbal products without the accompaniment of exercises and techniques to help the customer. Pills DO help increase blood flow to the penis, make harder erections and increase the amount of semen you produce. Pair this with exercises (which we emphatically tell people to do) and you CAN enlarge your penis.

So read this real fast and respond as quickly as possible, I know you're checking this thread constantly. By the way, here's some advice. Before you argue that something is wrong, doesn't work, etc., do more research. You've only looked at the side of the argument you want to be right.

[procam]

He doesnt have to respond to it I will!
You're promoting snake oil -
To make matters worse you LIKE to argue so your only intent now is to further piss him off - Leave it be man -
What u do have is Medical Doctors and the American Journal of Medicine stating they DO NOT WORK!
You are no better than the guys peddling fake viagra!~ In fact you are even moreso of a scumbag IMHO
Bottom line is you have no clinical studies to prove it works and you have no FDA approval to back up any such studies and you have only your station wagon full of snake oil so pack it up and hit the next town!!! :juggle:

[RuthXtremePay]

And that wasn't the point I was trying to make, I was trying to correct RuthXtremePay's assertion: "Yes, there are class action suits against some penis pill sponsors, but do you actually know what they're charging them with?
It's not for the product not working It's for DOUBLE BILLING and REBILLING customers without their permission."

Now, I figure you'll tell me that she was talking about "class actions" and the link I provided was to something that wasn't a "class action." so before you do, I'll just reply with tomato ... tomaaaaaato.

dzinerbear

To my understanding the class action suits were for the billing issue. I'm sure there are some folks out there who are individually and independently claiming they didn't get results and suing the company who sold them the pills. But they'd only be suing them if the company didn't honour any guarantee they had on offer. And we all know that Enzyte didn't offer any

We are not being sued, neither is Mensniche, and I'm sure there are a large number who aren't being sued. But my apologies if I was wrong in my statement about the lawsuits.

But this whole thread is so very circular and not really worth the effort.

Those webmasters who can look beyond the flaming here will see that these products convert and as long as the company they deal with is legit and honourable then any customer who DOESN'T see the results they want will get their money back. So as a webmaster you can feel confident adding these products to your promotions.

Anyone who has questions, feel free to hit me up, and I'm sure the same goes for Mensniche - we're here to answer your questions and reassure you about the legitimacy of any of our products you're promoting to your traffic :angel:

[Lee]

One would think Lee would profit far more by trying to market programs to his members that they can actually believe in. Many people try promoting programs that they see advertised on GWW simply because of the reputation of this resource. Selling away your business respectability and integrity for a few hundred dollars a month seems awfully cheap to me.......

The simple fact of the matter is, as a company we do promote herbal enhancement products for both males and females and, we make a LOT of money doing so.

If the MensNiche product line didnt sell, we wouldnt let them advertise on GWW.

You are correct in your assement that there are 'a lot of misguided, insecure, or just plain stupid people in the world.'

Why not profit from those people? They are going to buy these products anyway, better that they make you some additional $$$ in the process than going to one of your competitors.

We do have very stringent rules when it comes to who we do and dont let advertise on GWW, we wont promote turnkey solutions because quite frankly, we feel they are a rip-off to the webmaster, we wont promote sites where their models seem underage, even if they arent, because thats still catering to the CP crowd in our eyes.

The simple fact of the matter is, whether you chose to promote herbal products or not, the surfer will still buy them and, for some, whether the results are physical or mental, the results, to the end-user, outweigh the cost of the initial purchase.

MensNiche has a solid name in the adult industry, they make a lot of webmasters a lot of money every month, rather than worrying about 'stupid surfers' (gay or straight) sell something to them that they will end up buying anyway.

As i mentioned in the other thread, we are in the marketing and sales business, not the entertainment business, if someone has a need to purchase a product, site or service, im going to be the one selling it to them as long as its legal and, right now, herbal supplements are legal to sell.

Regards,

Lee

[procam]

You are correct in your assement that there are 'a lot of misguided, insecure, or just plain stupid people in the world.'

Why not profit from those people? They are going to buy these products anyway, better that they make you some additional $$$ in the process than going to one of your competitors.

I had very high hopes that you would come up with some sort of far better statement than that! :signhere:

I was obviously mistaken as to your actual integrity..

[ScottMN]

He doesnt have to respond to it I will!
You're promoting snake oil -
To make matters worse you LIKE to argue so your only intent now is to further piss him off - Leave it be man -
What u do have is Medical Doctors and the American Journal of Medicine stating they DO NOT WORK!
You are no better than the guys peddling fake viagra!~ In fact you are even moreso of a scumbag IMHO
Bottom line is you have no clinical studies to prove it works and you have no FDA approval to back up any such studies and you have only your station wagon full of snake oil so pack it up and hit the next town!!! :juggle:

You now have the award for the least thought out response in this thread.

1. I don't like to argue, but I also don't like being called a liar by guys like you
2. "IMHO" - your opinion is anything but humble
3. We have stacks of faxes sent in from our customers that say we DO work
4. You don't know how the FDA works
5. How'd you know I own a wagon

[Lee]

I had very high hopes that you would come up with some sort of far better statement than that! :signhere:

I was obviously mistaken as to your actual integrity..

Why come up with a statement better than that? Its the truth.

If stupid people want to buy stuff, im not going to stop them, just as im not going to stop them joining a site that rebills at $50 a month for 100 pics and a bunch of plugins as long as i keep making $40 for a $3 trial.

You mean to say you dont promote PPS sponsors at all? I mean, we all know they overpromise and underdeliver.

There is no difference between promoting herbal supplements and paysites with shitty members area as far as im concerned. If it makes me money, ill promote them so long as its legal to do so. Thats the business im in... Making money.

Regards,

Lee

[procam]

1. I don't like to argue, but I also don't like being called a liar by guys like you

You need to read your post AGAIN -- your words -- you LIKE to argue!!

[JustMe]

Before you argue that something is wrong, doesn't work, etc., do more research. You've only looked at the side of the argument you want to be right.

Hrm, you mean the side with all of the scientific research to back it up? The side that all of the doctors and other clinical folk are on? If that's what you mean, then yes, you're right. That is the side that I'm advocating there.

As far as I know, Penis Pill companies don't run a religion, where they can expect people to follow them on blind faith alone.

Those webmasters who can look beyond the flaming here

The only people who have been flaming here are those on the side of the Penis Pill companies. I've yet to read a response from them where they haven't been trying to take jabs or make jokes about the size of my dick. I guess that's all you can do when you have no science to support your arguements.

You are correct in your assement that there are 'a lot of misguided, insecure, or just plain stupid people in the world.

Why not profit from those people? They are going to buy these products anyway, better that they make you some additional $$$ in the process than going to one of your competitors.

That's just really really sad Lee. I guess I definitely had the wrong impression about you...

[Lee]

That's just really really sad Lee. I guess I definitely had the wrong impression about you...

Please tell m which sponsors you use and how much they pay you for each trial signup.

Then go and take a look in their members area and tell me what your surfer is spending is worth the money.

The only difference between that and herbal products is that one of them is a physical item.

Regards,

Lee

[Dzinerbear]

BoyAlley you sound like someone who needs to get laid, relax dude. You should spend more time worrying about getting your site off the ground before attacking others! It is the consumers money, and if they want to spend it on penis enhancement pills- who are you to judge. Sounds like the product didn't work for you and you want revenge. Sorry for your short comings...... :gossip:

Oh great ... a drive-by assassination. It's unfortunate that you need to degrade your first post by attacking JustMe. That's just cheap. The size of JustMe's equipment is not the issue here. And whatever you think he's lacking in the equipment closet at least he's BIG enough in the integrity department to come out and yell bullshit when he sees a pile of it sitting on the floor. He even states his issue with the board owner. I respect that.

I agree, osucheer, you owe JustMe an apology.

dzinerbear

[JustMe]

Greetings:

Then go and take a look in their members area and tell me what your surfer is spending is worth the money.

I don't promote anything that I haven't paid to join first, and that after looking at it, I'd be willing to pay to join again.

I think there are a lot of people on here who work the same way I do.

[ScottMN]

You need to read your post AGAIN -- your words -- you LIKE to argue!!

I was being sarcastic smarty pants.
I'll take it you agreed with my other 4 points though