Must Have Video Equipment

[maxpower]

Style isn't about pushing things as far as you can go, it's about being distinctly unique

If you want to use “Style” like that then who know how long it will take me to Spielberg up my films. I will say even though I have never crated anything yet this artsy crap will not me my style. If you want to see a model running though a field of tulips or something I will never be your man.

[longboardjim]

[QUOTE=IdolKnights;189061]Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment. QUOTE]


photography primarily , in regards to "style" agreed you cannot base a decision to purchase solely on that , my suggestion was that he speak to someone to get a better understanding of what is involved if he decides to pursue photography. (honestly i would ask questions of someone's work i liked v.s someone's i didn't , but maybe that's me)

jim

[basschick]

ah, but we're talking about video cameras (see thread title).

and a really cheap video camera in the $200 to $300 range often makes very low resolution video that just doesn't have enough lines to do the job.

Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:

Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

[Squirt]

If you want to use “Style” like that then who know how long it will take me to Spielberg up my films. I will say even though I have never crated anything yet this artsy crap will not me my style. If you want to see a model running though a field of tulips or something I will never be your man.

It's not about being a spielberg.. or artsy

[maxpower]

It's not about being a spielberg.. or artsy

I know its mainly going to be about getting models I can use to show up, and do what I want for the money I can offer. This is going to be the real problems as I see it, but I am sure as I begin to create film I will get some kind of a style. :crazyeyes:

[IdolKnights]

my suggestion was that he speak to someone to get a better understanding of what is involved if he decides to pursue photography.

You can only talk to so many people before you find out - person A only uses a Nikon and Person B only uses Canon whereas person C is an artfag who still has the polished up Brownie from the 40's and calls anything other than a vintage camera, simply not cutting it.

I fully agree in that talking to people will help in knowing where to start but in the world of photography, it's about the equipment and what you plan on doing with it.

Do you want to shoot Macro photography (real clean detail close up) - will the Digital Nikon SLR shoot Macro? Ooh, I need to buy macro lenses. Well the Camera is 1K and the Macro lenses are $300 to $2000 based on what I'm looking to do. Will I know how to use them? Do I have time to learn how to use them? Am I willing to learn the camera as well as the lenses?

Well will this walmart Kodak 5gpxl sureshot work for me? Do Macro? Need extra stuff to make Macro work? Oh, you mean it's an all in one unit for the average Joe who doesn't want to go to school to figure out?

Talking does good but going and looking at them does better. But take a list of what you want it to do so you can ask the sales person

[longboardjim]

If you want to use “Style” like that then who know how long it will take me to Spielberg up my films. I will say even though I have never crated anything yet this artsy crap will not me my style. If you want to see a model running though a field of tulips or something I will never be your man.

are you saying your allergic to flowers?

jim

p.s ~ i'm not sure there is a spielberg of porn

[maxpower]

are you saying your allergic to flowers?

jim

p.s ~ i'm not sure there is a spielberg of porn

No just Pussy crap

Ya I have not seeing to many Spielberg’s running around here lately, in fact I have seen some videos so bad you can see the guy playing with the cam and talking in the background about what he wants for lunch while the model's doing his thing.

I know its going to be hard to get people to show-up, but I am also sure even my first video is No threat to win the worse gay video of the year or anything.

[TropixxxStudios]

I know it might be a year or so away, but I am starting to wonder about what camera equipment I will need to create videos. I know I will need a camcorder but what kind do I really need? Should I get the most expensive or 2 of the cheaper ones, or just 1 medium priced one will work good. I also know I will need lights but how many what type? Are these about the only things I need? I was thinking about maybe using screen caps for some pics cuzz I am going to have to do it all myself. I was also thinking about getting most of what I need from Ebay unless anyone knows a better place.

Maxpower,
Since you mention that you are about a year away, I would suggest reading all I could about videography. A good source for camera reviews, tips, lighting reviews, etc. is Videgorapher Magazine.

When it comes closer to the date of actual purchase I would suggest checking out closeouts. I would strongly recommend against buying used video equipment as you never know how it was treated.

Believe it or not, lighting is more important to the final outcome than the camera. Also, to get the best image, you should ALWAYS turn OFF image stabilazation, etc. So it doesn't matter if the camera has that or not. Invest in a fluid tripod ($300+) or a steadycam rather than rely on camera image stablization. A great steadycam will cost anywhere from $500+, but you can build one yourself for about $20.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

I have a BA in Television Production and am close to my MFA in Cinema. I would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Just email or private me.

- Michael

PS. As far as style goes...be carefull. I tried to be artistic in some of my earlier works...it did not go over well. Now I just shoot down and dirty.

Sometimes we use our $3000 cameras, steadycams, Chimera Lightbanks, etc. and sometimes we use our $150 camera, no tripod, and a construction lightset from Home Depot to give it that amateur look that is popular now.

[longboardjim]

You can only talk to so many people before you find out - person A only uses a Nikon and Person B only uses Canon whereas person C is an artfag who still has the polished up Brownie from the 40's and calls anything other than a vintage camera, simply not cutting it.

I fully agree in that talking to people will help in knowing where to start but in the world of photography, it's about the equipment and what you plan on doing with it.

Do you want to shoot Macro photography (real clean detail close up) - will the Digital Nikon SLR shoot Macro? Ooh, I need to buy macro lenses. Well the Camera is 1K and the Macro lenses are $300 to $2000 based on what I'm looking to do. Will I know how to use them? Do I have time to learn how to use them? Am I willing to learn the camera as well as the lenses?

Well will this walmart Kodak 5gpxl sureshot work for me? Do Macro? Need extra stuff to make Macro work? Oh, you mean it's an all in one unit for the average Joe who doesn't want to go to school to figure out?

Talking does good but going and looking at them does better. But take a list of what you want it to do so you can ask the sales person

agreed with several points but i would take talking to an actual photographer over a minimum wage sales associate who may have no experience/knowledge of the equipment. (probably best to get a photomag which "field-tests" photographic equipment for quality , ease of use , etc.)
in regards to equipment i really don't get too caught up in "favorites" it seems to always "change" (i can't tell you how many times i've bounced back and forth between a cannon and a nikon and a ...) so as mentioned i feel suggesting buying products at the "in-between" range is good judgement. (what works for me may not work for you)
in regards to "artfag" that would probably best describe my work , but i use up to date equipment/programs/etc. :chef:

jim

[maxpower]

Maxpower,
Since you mention that you are about a year away, I would suggest reading all I could about videography. A good source for camera reviews, tips, lighting reviews, etc. is Videgorapher Magazine.

When it comes closer to the date of actual purchase I would suggest checking out closeouts. I would strongly recommend against buying used video equipment as you never know how it was treated.

Believe it or not, lighting is more important to the final outcome than the camera. Also, to get the best image, you should ALWAYS turn OFF image stabilazation, etc. So it doesn't matter if the camera has that or not. Invest in a fluid tripod ($300+) or a steadycam rather than rely on camera image stablization. A great steadycam will cost anywhere from $500+, but you can build one yourself for about $20.

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/steadycam/

I have a BA in Television Production and am close to my MFA in Cinema. I would be happy to answer any questions you might have. Just email or private me.

- Michael

PS. As far as style goes...be carefull. I tried to be artistic in some of my earlier works...it did not go over well. Now I just shoot down and dirty.

Sometimes we use our $3000 cameras, steadycams, Chimera Lightbanks, etc. and sometimes we use our $150 camera, no tripod, and a construction lightset from Home Depot to give it that amateur look that is popular now.

Thax man I will check all that out

[IdolKnights]

ah, but we're talking about video cameras (see thread title).

I feel this is pointed at me being the attached Quote hosts my nick...

The title does in fact say "video" however it became clear on reply number 9 that the topic had slightly morphed into a broader conversation of "ography" with:

who's photography interests you!

in reply number 11, I ask for clarification to the term "photography" by asking

Photography or Videography?

to only be graced on reply number 17 with:

photography primarily

however back at reply number 11, I keep on track with the original topic by adding into my "example" reply:

Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras.

Did I miss something along any of the posts or are you being slightly "know it all" and rude for no reason?

[basschick]

dude, the people talking about photography was not the person looking for help. he was talking about video equipment so while there was a conversation within the thread, i was hoping to keep it on topic so we could be of assistance.

[longboardjim]

No just Pussy crap

Ya I have not seeing to many Spielberg’s running around here lately, in fact I have seen some videos so bad you can see the guy playing with the cam and talking in the background about what he wants for lunch while the model's doing his thing.

I know its going to be hard to get people to show-up, but I am also sure even my first video is No threat to win the worse gay video of the year or anything.

depending on your area and your advertising methods that should pretty much let you know what models are available.

jim

[Squirt]

dude, the people talking about photography was not the person looking for help. he was talking about video equipment so while there was a conversation within the thread, i was hoping to keep it on topic so we could be of assistance.

No thread with maxpower posting in it has ever been kept on topic