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    WTF? Major 2257 Violator Gets Community Service

    The Santa Monica entrepreneur who made a fortune persuading drunken women on spring break to bare their bodies for his "Girls Gone Wild" videos will be making frequent trips to Florida, this time for court-ordered community service.

    Joe Francis' Mantra Films Inc. was ordered to serve 32 hours of community service each month for 30 months. U.S. District Judge Richard Smoak in Panama City, Fla., on Wednesday challenged Francis to perform additional hours of service in lieu of his employees having to do it.

    The company admitted in September to using minors in films and violating laws requiring the ages of actors in sexually explicit films be recorded.

    Some of the videos cited in the plea agreement were filmed on Panama City Beach in 2003.

    Smoak said he slapped the company with community service because he thought it would be a more meaningful punishment than an already agreed-upon $2.1-million fine, which he said represents less than 3% of Mantra's profit since 2002 and only 12% of Mantra's 2005 profit.

    The judge demanded that Francis read aloud a victim impact statement from one woman who said she was emotionally tormented by her appearance on a "Girls Gone Wild" video, which damaged her relationship with her family.

    "It does not take a very brave man to go out and corner a girl in the middle of spring break who had four drinks," Smoak said.

    Francis is on the hook for eight hours of community service a month. Smoak suggested that Francis could shoulder the entire burden by giving him the option of "stepping up" and serving 16 hours a month.

    Francis' attorney, Aaron Dyer, said he was unsure whether his client would take on more hours or what service he would perform. "It will be something that provides a significant benefit to the community," Dyer said.

    Francis, 33, argued to the judge that his policy had always been to film females over 18 and that the girls he shot in Panama City had lied to him about their ages.

    Smoak ordered Mantra to publish a statement detailing its guilt in the Los Angeles Times, the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, USA Today and the News Herald of Panama City.

    In September, Francis pleaded guilty in Los Angeles to two felony counts of violating federal record-keeping laws, agreeing to pay $500,000 of the $2.1-million penalty himself.

    Mantra Films pleaded guilty to an additional 10 felony counts in Florida of breaking federal record-keeping laws and violating labeling laws for sexually explicit material.

    After the sentencing, Francis left the courtroom without speaking to reporters.

    A spokesman for the Justice Department said it was possible that Francis would be ordered to perform additional community service in California when he is sentenced in January on his own felony charges.

    Since 1998, Francis has built a $40-million-a-year business around spring break revelry and youthful hedonism.

    Dozens of "Girls Gone Wild" videos show footage of young women, often intoxicated, flashing their breasts for the cameras.

    Francis and several of his employees also face separate criminal charges in Panama City's District Court, where much of the evidence against him has been ruled inadmissible.

    A judge is expected to rule in the coming weeks whether the 10 felony charges remaining from the 77 original counts that Francis and his employees once faced will be dismissed.

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    I guess the old sayig is true, money really does talk.

    This is fucking outrageous, if it were anyone other than this asshole you can bet there would have bene jail time involved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    This is fucking outrageous, if it were anyone other than this asshole you can bet there would have bene jail time involved!

    I don't know about that. It's not like these girls were 14 and 15, and I totally believe that they lied about their age in order to get on camera. I've been a teenager. We all have. Kids'll do anything for a little bit of attention. Beyond that, paying more than $1 million is a pretty hefty fine, and community service seems to be the going sentence these days for when the crime itself isn't really all that "criminal." These aren't porn videos per se, just girls lifting up their tops and showing their tits off. And again, it's not like he's filming kiddie porn.

    I'd think that people in the industry would be happy to see that there might be a little bit of lenience involved. True, not everyone has the money that Girls Gone Wild has to afford good counsel and to mount a great defense case, but that's not GGW's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude View Post
    I don't know about that. It's not like these girls were 14 and 15
    Actually, some of them were.

    I totally believe that they lied about their age in order to get on camera.
    Which is why the guy should have been asking for IDs, as per THE LAW.

    paying more than $1 million is a pretty hefty fine
    Unless you happen to be raking in over $40 million a year, then its pocket change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Unless you happen to be raking in over $40 million a year, then its pocket change.
    And the problem with that is...what exactly? So, your opinion is that if you happen to be extremely successful, you should be penalized MORE because of that fact? I'm not sure I understand your inference here, Lee.

    Otherwise, yeah, of course I agree that he should have been getting I.D.'s and all that as per the law. He messed up there. But he's also admitted his guilt and he's taking his lumps. I think the court recognized that he was prepared to take responsibility for his actions. Does that excuse what he did? Of course not. But let's not let contempt for the mega-successful stand in the way of our ability to be reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I guess the old sayig is true, money really does talk.

    This is fucking outrageous, if it were anyone other than this asshole you can bet there would have bene jail time involved!
    Yes it does!

    If it were you getting 14 and 15 year old guys to flash the camera, then have sex with eachother (as GGW did) you'd be fined, in jail, lose your business, and labeled a sex offender and pervert for the rest of your life and you certainly wouldn't have been allowed to have commercials on television advertising your product, as they do. Now don't get me wrong.. the above punishment and labels are fair, but he's a straight gold old boy with a straight business in a straight world just having a little fun, and it's all the girls fault that he didn't follow the law :crazy:
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    i was angry when i first read about this. pretty much anyone else would have done jail time or had a really bad time - and this guy gets a walk in the park.


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    Quote Originally Posted by basschick View Post
    and this guy gets a walk in the park.
    A walk in the park, picking up litter

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    Isnt this the first 2257 conviction? Or have their been others?


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    Quote Originally Posted by basschick View Post
    i was angry when i first read about this. pretty much anyone else would have done jail time or had a really bad time - and this guy gets a walk in the park.
    Hey maybe it's a new trend in the treatment of pornographers? Maybe most judges feel that 2257 is unfair, and merky at best, in it's current form? Maybe we can all look forward to this kind of treatment by judges?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    Hey maybe it's a new trend in the treatment of pornographers? Maybe most judges feel that 2257 is unfair, and merky at best, in it's current form? Maybe we can all look forward to this kind of treatment by judges?

    Right? That was my point. We should be HAPPY about this.

    By the way, has there been a single inspection yet on a gay company? Shows you how much we're on their radar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude View Post
    By the way, has there been a single inspection yet on a gay company? Shows you how much we're on their radar...
    Yes, a couple actually.

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    The 2.1 million fine that the GGW guy got is like nothing. He makes that per day i bet.


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    Just a thought here, why shouldnt he get the book thrown at him? OK it may be a sign that judges will go easy on 2257 - but should they? I mean he had kids in his porn. Why shouldnt he go to jail?

    I know 2257 is a bitch but this guy, as far as ive read, had underage models, and didnt know about it as he couldnt be assed to get id from them.

    There is no exuse. Those kids may well regret the fact that dirty old men have jerked off over them all over the world (as they may later see it). They may be quite distressed in later life, and even feel abused.

    Id like to know how they were recruited. Did they approach the company or was it the other way arround? If the latter is true then he should be in jail with out a doubt.

    And if you live in the States, and your a multi million dollar company HOW HARD IS IT TO GET THE IDS?? I admit its tough on the one person companies, who have to do alot of work and theres a cost issue with that, but for a major company?

    Send the prick to jail imo.


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