Umm..noooo..I don't think you are barebacking..because...ta da..you're wearing a condom..even though it's difficult to see.Originally Posted by CamCruise
And as to the "condom market" keeping you out of so many markets, just HOW does that happen? IF you have a good product, and good promotion, then you should be able to sell it virtually anywhere. How are you stopped?
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Why is there a condom market and a bareback market. It has nothing to do with if you have a good product, and good promotion. We all have good stuff.
It has to do with the FACT that many retailers and some VOD companies feel that the best way to get people to stop playing unsafe is to SHOW models wearing condoms.
They have told us this. and are willing to lose the good sales that could make by selling bareback to help send that message to there customers.
BUT if you make it look like everyone is barebacking, even if some are wearing unseen condoms, then you will not be sending the safe message anymore.
People will see what looks like barebacking in all videos. How does that send a safe sex message to anyone. It wont!!
So those retailers and some VOD companies that wont sell bareback will ether stop selling all new videos with this unseen condoms in it. or open up there doors to all of us, since the reason to keep us out would be gone.
It sounds like your only concern is that you want to compete with us and still us condoms.
Because one type of condom is less "obstrustive" than another doesn't mean "Oh gee whiz..this is a bareback site!"
Come on..give the surfers a little credit for having some brains and KNOWING that there ARE condoms out there that AREN'T white and ALMOST look invisible (but they aren't if you watch gay porn..even the most transparent are noticeable if you look hard enuf).
Just by using a less noticeable condom does not send the message of "unsafe sex!"
All in all, it just seems much ado about nothng.
much ado about nothing? where have you been for the past 25 years?
What a load of crap. Who said anything about trying to make it look bareback?
theres a HUGE difference in trying to 'deceive the viewer' as you say, cutting the rubber end off etc or simply going for a condom thats doesnt look like it could save you from a nuclear disaster.
All i asked if there was any brand of condom that was less noticeable, i.e. thinner and more natural looking. End of
There are two issues I am aware of. Concern about the safety of the models and concern about sending a message to the viewers of porn implying that barebacking is somehow "validated" through showing the activity in adult films.
Cam, I agree that if the condoms were somehow completely invisible (which it's alreedy been pointed out they are not, even with the transparent ones or the ends cut off) then the 2nd argument, concern about the message to viewers, is invalidated, and the safer sex producers, such as Chi Chi, who are concerned with that message, would be being disingenuous.
However, I would also say that for those of us who are uncomfortable asking a model to do something we would not do ourselves, the choice to use condoms that are simply less obtrusive is not disingenuous.
I myself wrestle with the issue of sending a message about unsafe sex being OK. I think there's probably little doubt that some kids are influenced by what they see in porn, in the same way they are influenced by seeing cigarettes or drug use or violent acts in Hollywood films. The research does indicate pretty conclusively that exposure of children and teens to "undesirable" things such as violence and smoking in films does lower resistance to (and appears to increase the likelihood of) engaging in those behaviors. So it is not unreasonable to assume that the same effect is had when teens and young adults are exposed to barebacking.
Should it be banned? No. For the same reason offensive speech should not be banned.
But those for whom sending and portraying a safe message is important should continue to follow their gut, and should be aware that there is no *need* to produce bareback in order to sell competitively against bareback product. The studios who produce safer sex product that continues to sell well are a testament to that.
And for those who practice barebacking in their private lives and/or produce bareback content... they should also follow their gut. As long as they are OK with the choices they are making, and (particularly when working with twinks) they are honestly and truthfully conveying the risks accurately and not "whitewashing" or arm twisting, it's their choice.
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