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    Reality sites - too far?

    It's something I haven't really seen in the gay website arena.
    But with straight websites, it definitely seems like some people are going pretty heavy on the whole reality site genre. Suffice to say, there's some really messed up "reality sites" out there. Obviously the footage is all staged and what not. But the premise of a lot of these sites I've seen is pretty wild.
    Far be it from me to judge, so that's not really what I'm doing. More posing the question... how far do you think it'll go? Reality sites are a hot market right now. So a lot of people are coming out with sites that are pretty over the top in order to compete with the ones already out there and the line keeps gettin pushed farther and farther out.
    Ultimately, do you think the whole reality site binge will be bad for the biz? By flooding the net with some kinda crappy and altogether tasteless stuff? That real quality of product has been traded for outlandish and outrageous concepts? Well-produced content sacrificed in favor of fly-by-night, reality-site-of-the-week stuff?


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    Honestly, I think you hit the nail on the head. These sites are becoming so out there til it's not funny. I saw a site the other day that was crackwhoreconfessions.com. Come on now , we all could have done without that one.
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    I think the whole reality thing is a reaction to how bad some of the actors are in scripted porn, and how hot a lot of the stuff on Bedfellow and Sean cody can be, where it's so unscripted that the performers spend most of their time laughing nervously.


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    Brian,

    I agree with you on a lot of points there. I'm seeing it start in the gay arena, but not to the extent it's happened/happening in the straight markets.

    I first took my queue on reality sites from television. Take a look at the extent of what 'reality TV' has attempted. I think it was a natural progression to bring it to the web. However, unlike TV, this industry can go so outrageous that it hurts. I always believed that reality sells but with some of the cheap shit we're seeing 'devolve' the reality niche, it can only hurt. I can not see how some of these sites will survive for long.

    Now, the questions I ask, "Are the surfer buying membership to these sites? And are they staying?" If they are buying and retaining then that's a trend we need to be looking at. Good, bad or indifferent.

    The reality aspect works... From faked reality to live. We have done two types of shoots for DILF, re-enactments and sneak cams. Both do well and have an even mix of fans. But I make sure there is a level of quality to everything we put in there. And there are times that I think if I lose a member to a shit site, was it worth taking as much time as I do to assure quality. As far as I'm concerned, of course.

    I, also, believe that many (not all) of these shit sites are put together by the "I'm going to make a million" webmasters. They are short lived in this industry anyway, so my take is those sites will be shorted lived as well - there are only so many people who will buy and stay.

    Will they hurt us overall... probably. In a way I see them as free porn galleries, too many of them hurt us all. It is true for this cheap crap - the more that comes online the more it will hurt the good stuff out there.

    My rambling two cents offered LOL

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    You do realize by 'gay' I mean a man who has sex with other men?
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    In case you havent seen the article that i wrote recently about the growth of the reality phenomenon here it is in its entirity

    Hard Hitting - In Your Face - This Is Reality.

    It started on terrestrial television some 5 years ago with the first episode of Big Brother, then it went from a house of captive stars to talent scouts looking to create a new pop sensation. From there we saw a variety of television series with 'reality' as the main focus.

    It only follows suit that this popular marketing machine should hit the adult internet; and, it hit in a major way. And now, almost every major adult sponsor has one common type of site in their portfolio - a reality site.

    However, one thing that many in the adult industry are not aware of is that the 'reality' type adult sites have been around for longer than what most realize. Before the live sex up-sells and chat rooms, Brandon Marley, a gay website owner, has had a site catering towards the gay reality niche - the premise of his site, as a gay male on the prowl, he goes to the street looking for straight guys to use as content; once he has them in the studio, he lets them work their magic and, inevitably, gets down to business, sometimes persuading the guys to have sex, sometimes, grossing them out whilst they up and flee the studio, all of this is caught on tape and published online.

    Next is the web cam phenomenon. Reality at it's utmost, watching live guys talk, strip, jerk off and discuss the most intimate desires in a chat room. The gay market flocks to reality like a moth to a flame. And surprisingly, much of the focus of 'reality' has been pointed to the straight adult audience, with a limited amount of gay orientated reality sites being launched.

    That is until now, more and more programs and providers are coming up with reality to the gay market. The key to the on going success and growth of these sites is the, always allusive, original idea.

    From M.I.L.F To D.I.L.F

    One of the popular types of reality site we saw explode was MILF (Moms I Like To Fuck). Spurred not only by the popular teenage movie American Pie, this type of reality hits a spot of desire within some surfers to days gone by where they had a secret crush on someone's mom. Well if it's possible that a straight man could have a crush on a mom, what about the young gay man having a crush on a dad?

    "Well, if the straight markets can have MILF, why can't the gay arena have DILF?' asks Gary-Alan, owner of the new gay reality site DILF.com from
    http://www.studmoney.com.

    The gay markets have been yelling they are looking for something different to sell. So rather than taking DILF to the straight adult reality markets DILF takes it's unique flavor and gears it toward to gay market.

    'Reality sells! It is one of the freshest and highest converting niches yet. We see this from great sites like Chi Chi La Rue and Brandon Marley - two of my most favorite sites. I have been listening to webmaster for years. They are looking for something different not just in a reality sense but something that features older guys, not your typical young buff stud. I think when the idea to finally launch StudMoney came up, the first thing that was mentioned was DILF. So we've brought the two aspects together and given the gay market webmasters the opportunity to promote a reality site that will convert and, convert well on their traffic." Alan tells us.

    So What Are Reality Sites?

    Reality sites cater to a specific target audience, those people who don't want to see the usual porn stars that are found on almost every other site on the web. Instead, these sites offer exclusive real-life models that could next door neighbor's sister, mother or, in the case of DILF, their father. Reality opens your site offerings, giving you the opportunity to retain surfers with frequent updates and story lines that will peak their interests. You get to set the standard of your entire site to promote not only the content but a familiarity with your core performers.

    Starting A Reality Site.

    So how do you go about setting up a reality niche pay site? In all honesty, there is more involved than putting up a cookie-cutter site online.

    First you need a concept. With as many niches available today you need something fresh. Mind you there are ideas to mimic but new sells. Once the ideas are down then you need to find content. This isn't as easy as buying a standard CD, it has to be fresh and new so finding a good photographer to shoot exclusive custom content. Even if you decide you will shoot your own content, you will need to be sure to schedule fresh new shoots frequently. This is important with any type of site, but none more than reality.

    Once you have the content aspect figured out, you need to work on designing your site. You may think that's easy, but the regular cookie-cutter designs, that are so often seen across multiple sites, simply do not cut it. You should seriously give your site design as much consideration as you do you concept for the site itself. A unique approach to the overall layout and design the site and it the member's area has an equal impact on your members retention rates as having unique content.

    Reality Niche - Overview.

    What it all comes down to is reality is here, and here to stay. From market to market, niche to niche the one thing we have seen on and offline is that audiences around the world are looking to satisfy the voyeur, the deviant or the simple curiosity that lurks just beneath the skin. So the next time your driving past the mini-mart or peak inside the dressing room at the department store, remember you're not only in public places - you are probably walking through the next set for an upcoming reality site.

    Article written by Lee.


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    I like some of the reality sites but I agree that some of them are really out there. And the first site I thought of when BDbionic said he hadn't seen much reality in the gay market was D.I.L.F. We all know that those aren't probably real dads and that the scenes are staged just like the milf sites but it's the fantasy of a reality site that's appealing. If you over analyze it then they aren't much fun, any more than the reality TV shows are when you understand that they are all scripted... case in point, Ozzie. Seems so real but it's scripted.


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    I don't have any problem with "scripted reality" at all. People don't want real reality. It's boring. People very seldom get laid by a straight guy in a grocery store, especially if they've got a camera crew along for a ride with them. Who cares? The audience eats it up, and we're giving them what they want.

    You'd be amazed by how many people really think that stuff is real, though.


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    Reality Rocks. A poor site whether reality based or not is just a poor site. There is no distinction for me.


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    well looks like i"m joining the bandwagon. I will have one of those sites coming out sortly. Lord help me
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