Lots of members just quit my site...

[XXXWriterDude]

i don't see healthy debate here - what i see is a couple people ganging up on LiveTwinksCam with a strong conviction that what they think is 100% right and what he says is 100% wrong. period. i haven't read the part where you read something he said, considered it, and tried to see if there was something - even if it was a little tiny something - you could agree with.

if you can't listen and consider what a friendly fellow webmaster has to say if you don't agree with it at the gate, how do you expect republicans who didn't even consider you as a person to listen on a website?

tell ya what - when i open cnn, i expect to see politics so i read on. if i'm watching metalocolypse and they interupt it with politics, i leave. i'm not saying don't put politics in your site as it is YOUR site, but in my experience the only people who you want to affect will be the ones least likely to listen.

I wholeheartedly understand that some people hold the point of view that there is no place on a porn site for politics. But I disagree. Therefore, why should I find something in that opinion to agree with????????

By the way, if I was telling LiveTwinkCam he was wrong (which I don't feel I was), then he was doing exactly the same thing to me by sharing HIS opinion--which, by the way, I respect, but just simply disagree with, and will continue to disagree with as loudly as I want to.

It's all good. I'm honestly just having a healthy debate. How you or anyone else perceives is just that: YOUR perception.

[DonMike]

Jacob,
Sounds like you need a spanking.
:whip:

Sure, reward him for bad behavior!!! LOL!

Honestly, I think a lot of this has been healthy debate but there's also been some name calling and bashing, and that I don't approve of. Let's keep in mind that we don't all have to agree on everything, and it's okay to disagree with someone, but don't ever take the stance on "I'm right and you're wrong" because it's just not true.

Because someone doesn't agree with your way of thinking does not make them "stupid" and just because someone did something that you would not have done does not give you the right to say "you shouldn't have done that". You could say, "I don't agree with that and here are my reasons..." or "I wouldn't have done that, myself."

There is an excellent quote from the TV show Voyager...

I dread the day when everyone on this ship agrees with me.
- Kathryn Janeway, Captain, U.S.S. Voyager NNC 74656

This would be a poor sort of board if we all agreed on everything. How boring would that be?

[jIgG]

Pretty much, yes. But that's just my $0.02

So by your logic it must be true what some people say bareback porn is for bug chasers and people who get off on spreading AIDS. And pretty much gays are responsible for HIV since they get infected the most.

[TropixxxStudios]

Sure, reward him for bad behavior!!! LOL!

Actually, I think everyone just needs a good spanking!

:donmike:

[Xstr8guy]

So by your logic it must be true what some people say bareback porn is for bug chasers and people who get off on spreading AIDS. And pretty much gays are responsible for HIV since they get infected the most.

No. I just don't like republicans.

And what the HELL does your inflammatory comment have to do with anything? I guess I hit a nerve. I never had you pegged as a republican lover.

[Dart]

I think there's a time and a place for political conversatons.

I myself had an infuriating experience the other day with a health care worker here in Canada.

Right before the bloodwork was to begin (long story short. . but I found out I'm HIV positive last month) he saw that I actually don't have full OHIP coverage, because my original citizenship is American.

This man suddenly gave me an earfull about the political situation in the US, and the problems of both parties (as if I didn't know), and looked at me and said "I hope you democrats get it right this time!"

And I am NOT embellishing the story.

To the man's credit, he quickly realized how inappropriate he was being, and apologized profusely.

I accepted, and then informed him that I will not be returning.

Sometimes, you just shouldn't go there. Whether you're right or not.

[desslock]

i was about to agree with most of what you just said when you had to get insulting - and even better, you insulted me.

Basschick: I apologize for offending you. I should have put "wacko Hollywood liberal" in quotes, because the original poster used this specific term many times "I am a die hard, left wing, Hollywood Wacko." .... his words.. hence my "quoting him back with his words."

I don't like that term either.... and I don't know why someone would self describe themselves as "wacko."

I typically don't use the vague term "liberal" either because I am philisophically a "classical liberal." In the rest of the world, liberals prefer the markets to run things over the government. If you vote for liberals in Japan, Germany or Australia they will be the ones wanting to privatize the state owned businesses and move their medical system into private hands, not state operated welfare.

Liberal has certainly become a poorly used word in American politics.... same with conservative too, I would add.

Steve

[DonMike]

I don't know why someone would self describe themselves as "wacko."

Ahem... :donmike:

[Cruisemaster]

Congrats! For taking a stand because it does take a degree of courage to do anything overtly questioning of the current government. They have a habit of targeting those of us who refuse to be silent. Sorry to read some people here don't seem to support your actions. We took all our sites offline on election day and received numerous notes of thanks, but not a single complaint. And you know what? I not only slept better that night, but I felt sooooooo great the next day. Some of the elections were so close (as in less than a thousand votes) that it is not impossible that a few of my site visitors, casting their vote instead of stroking their dick, just might have made a difference.

Keith

Thanks to the "Don't Stroke, Vote!" guys for giving me the idea to go dark on election day...to state my opinions...to try to make a change.

As far as the Right Wing Fascist Idiots that quit...rest assured I won't be missing them!

- Michael
TropixxxStudios.com

[TropixxxStudios]

Out of the 30 or so guys that emailed me with complaints about my comments on the election in my forum and promised to quit/cancel (thus representing a loss of about $500 a month in recurring fees) it is now more than a week later, and only three have done so.

Also, one of those that quit asked if he could re-join today at his original price.

I guess hypocrasy is alive and well.

- Michael

[TropixxxStudios]

We took all our sites offline on election day and received numerous notes of thanks, but not a single complaint. And you know what? I not only slept better that night, but I felt sooooooo great the next day.

Keith,
Thanks for the note of encouragement and support. I suppose I could have been a little more diplomatic in my request for people to vote...but I have never really been like that...more of a partisian guy here...which I guess explains why I got some of my members so pissed. (Or maybe since my site does not have gay sex on it, but rather only male punishment there are more 'straight' republican types that are members...who knows.)

I too slept better...even with all the comotion my thread started online here. Thanks again so much for giving me the idea...and the courage.

- Michael

[DonMike]

(Or maybe since my site does not have gay sex on it, but rather only male punishment there are more 'straight' republican types that are members...who knows.)

It's amazing to me how many people keep their sexual lives and their public lives so separate. And by "public" I don't just mean in the office or in the media but in their interactions with friends, even their relationships. Guys will get married, have kids, protest against gay rights, yet come home and wank off to pics of guys fucking, or getting spanked or what have you. Or even if they are looking at straight porn sites yet are in support of anti-pornography legislation. They have their "dirty little secret" that they keep tucked away. I guess it adds to the excitement of it. But I have to say that I'm much happier being able to be open about all my interests. Sure I'm not going to visit my parents in a harness and chaps but it's nice to know if my boss ran across one of my online profiles the worst I would get is "You might want to rethink that jockstrap". LOL!

[Randall Shamp]

its those who dont speak up i worry about.
:whip:

[Xstr8guy]

Out of the 30 or so guys that emailed me with complaints about my comments on the election in my forum and promised to quit/cancel (thus representing a loss of about $500 a month in recurring fees) it is now more than a week later, and only three have done so.

Also, one of those that quit asked if he could re-join today at his original price.

I guess hypocrasy is alive and well.

- Michael

Did you confirm that the emails actually came from real members? Maybe your forum post was quoted and linked on some conservative website.

[TropixxxStudios]

Did you confirm that the emails actually came from real members? Maybe your forum post was quoted and linked on some conservative website.

You know, I never thought of that. I will have to go back and check. Obviously a few of them were real, as I had three cancels.