Obscene???

[KellyTaylor]

Hello Board

Another one of my fun questions is.. Do you guys think that things like:
Fisting, Large Dildo ( Toys ) ,Enema, Ass play, Water sports, Bondage
Will be considered or is considered OBSCENE??? I have been reviewing alot of old and newer porn and I find that it is in alot of stuff.. From what I understand that obscene acts in video are not aloud etc... But it seems alot of people are still making the films!

Now me being a huge fan of ( Butts!) I love a man butt and there is nothing more I appreciate on a guy ( Something to know about kelly my favorite thing on a man!) Do you think rimming is something that maybe considered OBSCENE? I sure hope not! UGH!!!

[MiamiB]

While all sexual activites could be considered obscene somewhere (community standards vary greatly) I think that you are quite safe with rimming...since it is wide spread (no pun intended) in BOTH the hetro and homosexual communities as a common sex act.

[KellyTaylor]

Are all the rest of the things that I listed considered dangerous grounds? ....
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[basschick]

all of those things including rimming have been considered dangerous grounds. also bukkake and any facial cumshots have been in most lawyers' hot lists.

[chadknowslaw]

The trouble with trying to define "obscene" is that the US Supreme Court test for what is obscenity is old, outdated, and didn't really even work when it was written. "Obscene" was something with no redeeming value and that violated community standards. Community standards was kind of hard to define in 1973, so you had to get charged and then let a jury of 12 people not smart enough to avoid jury duty decide if what you were selling is obscene. I personally would like to know BEFORE criminal charges are filed, not try to define obscenity afterwards. In 1973, porn was sold in bookstores, hardly ever by mail, and online just didnt exist. The seller knew where the material was going to be sold because it had to be shipped to the adult bookstore, and you knew where that bookstore was located. Now, the seller really has no idea where the product will be sold, and the product can be sold online to some in West Hollywood California and Mobile, Alabama at the same time, but both through an internet website. Which "commmunity" do you set your standards by??
The Extreme Associates case is heading to the US Supreme Court, hopefully they will take the case and maybe, just maybe, they might give us a new definition of obscenity, or at least a better test. The Court might decide not to hear the case, or they may not reach any discussion of what obscenity is. I am optimistic. A new obscenity test that is more workable in the Internet world would make all of our jobs easier.

Right now, you could probably sell a fisting video in Bear Country, California without anyone thinking it is obscene, but then someone orders it in Middle Amana, Iowa [one of those places where people still drive horse drawn wagons] and images of women with low necklines and skirts up to their knees would be considered obscene.

In my opinion, as long as the only actors are consenting adults and there is no wicked violence, like simulated murder or shooting models in the genitals it should be free to sell in a country that is supposed to have freedom of expression.

[robin]

Just being a gay person is obscene in many peoples books. Just having a site that has the word "gay" in it is obscene in many peoples books... I run into this day in & day out. >

[XXXWriterDude]

Obscenity is subjective, of course.

Personally, I do find things like "gape" and "rosebud" (the showing of an asshole spread wide open so you can see inside) extremely disgusting and, yes, obscene. I have a hard enough time sitting through the surgical scenes on E.R., let alone having to look up some dude's asshole, or when he pushes it out so that his insides are coming at me like a nasty 3-D video. That's just gross, and there is NOTHING at all sexy about that. A little bit of mystery, please!

Scat would also be something I find to be obscene. (It's also something best left to jazz singers, haha). On the other hand, I LOVE watersports scenes, and can't get enough of them.

Sounding (the insertion of metal rods into the eurethra of the penis) is also pretty nasty to me. Not so much "obscene," but just nasty. I don't wanna see it.

These are things I would never do in my own sex life, and I just don't want to see them in my movies. These days, I pretty much avoid that stuff completely and I leave it to the dirty perverts who enjoy it! LOL! Kidding.

Diff'rent strokes and all... just not for me.