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I have been a bit lazy for the last 6 months or so, as it has been winter down under in Australia. I normally go to the gym once a week or so just to keep in shape. As summer is on its way I was going to start hitting the gym again to get in good shape for summer. But a friend of mine said toned guys are better than muscle guys.
What do you think?:huh:
to each his own! , there are those that like muscle and there are those that like natural , i pretty much do the gym 3 times a week , if it weren't for the fact that my viewers want to see all my muscles i wouldn't bother.
i personally am not attracted to muscle , i prefer guys natural , all muscle reminds me of is what i can't eat! , we all appreciate a nice body but that doesn't mean it has to be "ripped" and "chisled" to be attractive.
as mentioned , to each his own! , i guess the question is who is your target audience and what do they want to see.
sincerely ~ ..."i want cheescake!..err..muscles!" - diana ross :goof:
Personally, I prefer hot, ripped MEN who train regularly and take care of themselves.
I've trained all my life and would much rather be in the shape I'm in
at my stage in life.
I like muscles on guys; guys are suppose to have muscles.
True, there are varying degrees of what a bodybuilder, weight trainer, athlete can look like. Fire plug, swimmer, body"sculpter", etc.
It is so much easier and better perhaps, to start molding your body when young rather than trying to go on crash diets and "tone" (never quite know what that means) as the body starts to break down and age (after the age of 25 for men).
There is no doubt that lean muscle exudes health, vitality and verility and when accompanied by big meat and good looks, makes for a terrific porn star.
The super huge steroid abusers are interesting to look at but have put themselves at risk for all kinds of health problems. And on the other end of the spectrum "The Sumo Wrestler" build leaves me wondering how much toilet paper they must go through in a week!?!?!?
I like guys that are fit looking but not fake fit, ie, not gym boys who have every muscle perfectly sculpted. Give me that innocent country boy straight guy look anyday!
Get fit with sports, join a rugby team, go for a jog, hop on the bike or hit the surf board a few times a week. Enjoy that fantastic Aussie summer!
cheers,
Luke
i can't understand why guys talk about bodybuilders as "fake" just because they work out heavily in the gym. muscles are muscles - they are REAL body parts, so they ain't fake. these guys aren't putting on a muscle suit, that's THEM.
and luke - why would a guy who plays rugby be more innocent than a guy who lifts weights????
i admire a well-developed physique that shows hours spend in the gym. i am not as thrilled with guys who spend hours bench pressing and working their abs and shoulders who don't work their legs - and there are a lot of guys like that. i've never understood why a guy who is willing to dedicate that much time doesn't go for balance.
a body that has had hours of sweat put into the shaping and strengthening of it is beautiful - male or female, i think a perfected muscular physique rocks!
I LOVE men with muscles.
Of course, the fact that I have them myself may have something to do with it.
Let those queens go on and on about how toned men are better.. when I'm more pumped up, I get a LOT more attention than when I'm smaller.
how big do you get when you're pumped up?
(no, not your cock!)
if you're muscular, do i get to shoot you for my site? ;)
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Originally Posted by Jasun
I say fake because I know a few guys that are bodybuilders and they are totally weak-ass mary's. I mean it comes to moving a heavy object and I am way stronger than them even though they have spent years sculping their bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
As for rugby boys, I think I mentioned that cuz I was watching the game last night and though it was a good look.
Anyway, its all about what you prefer...if you like the gym look then good on ya!
cheers,
Luke
This argument about muscles between gay men (and Patti) is funny! sorry..but it is kinda humorous.
Personally, I find the gay community's obsession with their physical appearance rather shallow and disturbing. Hang out in any gay bar, and you will inevitably overhear a line like this: "Great body; where do you work out?" Or "Hey, you been working out? You're looking great."
All this focus on what we look like on the outside and SOOOO little attention to who we are on the inside. Yes, guys who are fit look great. There's no denying that. Muscles are hot, but ANYONE can have them. They are nothing special, nor do they say anything about the caliber of one's personality, soul or heart.
I used to date this guy who had all these posters and pictures ripped from magazines posted on every inch of his wall featuring these hot, ripped dudes, and one day I was like, "What's with all this muscle worship?" And he said, "Well, isn't that what all gay men want?" My response was, "There's nothing wrong with wanting a guy who looks good. The question remains, though, is that ALL we want?"
You see all these online profiles where it's like "I want a guy who's REAL, who is sensitive and kind, who likes long walks on the beach, who wants to strip away all the pretense and share his life with me." And then, right after that, there's this: "Built men ONLY need apply."
I get real sick of the word REAL being tossed around so much. Because, if you really want to get REAL about it, being "REAL" has a lot to do with looking past such shallowness and seeing the heart and soul of a person who may be lurking within a body that doesn't fit into the requirements of the gay community's increasingly ridiculous Ken Doll Complex.
And there you go. Just my two cents. :)
:cheese:And you know that someone will say (Or at least THINK) "those who make comments like this are usually the ones out of shape".. and for the record..I am NOT saying that about you.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
But given STRICTLY the physical attraction..are you REALLY attracted to a guy's sense of humor or his pecs/butt/cock?
Verily I say unto you..it is not GAY men that are shallow..but MEN PERIOD!
And maybe gay men a tad more shallow than straight..to be perfectly honest.
Ok..shoot away everyone! :cheese:
I feel so removed from the rest of gay society. I could care less about young, smooth, hung muscle guys. Give me a hairy daddy with some meat on his bones. Oh wait, I already have one of those and he's doing laundry right now as I type this. I'm so lucky!
That about says it all for me right thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
I Prefer Lean. I don't like super buff guys.
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Originally Posted by Slade
Well, if it's a strictly physical attraction, how could you SEE his sense of humor??? Am I just supposed to sense it with a sixth sense? ;)
Honestly, the FIRST thing I look for in another guy is his face--more specifically, his eyes, to see how they twinkle, what they show, how deep they are. A smile is everything to me. From there I move down and see what else is up with the dude, and then, of course, judge based on my own personal preferences. But I have gay friends who say, "Ken, why would you be into hiim? He's not attractive at all. He's got a belly, or he's not in the greatest shape." And I response is always simply, "I see something in him."
Of course, almost every attraction is based in the beginning on a physical level of some kind. I would not be attracted to a 400-pound hairy dude with missing teeth. But my range in what I find attractive is honestly all over the place, and I am very proud of that. I come from the east, where the pickings weren't so plentiful and you honestly took the time to get to know someone. And that's a mentality that I've maintained. But I've had guys tell me, "Dude, you're incredibly good looking, but not my type." And when I say back to them, "Wait, you're saying I'm hot, but hot isn't what you like?" And a few of them have said back, "Well, to be hoenst, I just want bigger-built guys."
What annoys me is when a dude starts working out, then says, "Now that I can get the hotter guys, I don't bother with anything less" or "He has to have muscles because I have muscles." Again, in the profiles online, guys will openly say, "I work out, so you should too." It's this sense of entitlement that muscular guys seem to acquire that really irks me.
There is so much insecurity in the gay community, and so many guys feel displaced from it because everywhere they turn, magazines only place the hottest guys on the cover and every single guy walking down Santa Monica Blvd. looks like he just trained to star in a swords-and-sandals epic movie alongside Brad Pitt, so he's gotta look good. We aren't inclusive enough of the different types of guys. And really, HOT comes in many shapes and sizes. It's not about muscle or a hairy chest or a bubble butt or any of those things that turn us on on a strictly purient level; it's really about an energy, a sense of confidence, a self-esteem that propels a guy's persona and disposition that I, personally, find tons more attractive than how big his pecs are. Honestly, if it's a REQUIREMENT that a guy has to be ripped in order for you ("you" in the plural sense), I think it says a whole lot about a person's priorities and sense of self.
I will be the first to admit that I struggle with my body issues and my own confidence b/cuz of a deep-seeded sense of inadequacy that I feel left over from my days in school, when I was relentlessly teased by the jocks. I developed severe gym phobia as a result. I just tense up and feel horribly out of place there, like I don't belong. And I struggle with the whole gym culture thing, because I wonder how much of it is really about being in shape and being healthy, and how much of it is rooted in us just wanting to be more hot so we can feel validated because of our OUTER appearances? It's one of my biggest personal struggles. I did go out and buy some weights, and I do work out now on a semi-daily basis at home, but I don't spend two hours at it a day and I don't talk about my workout routine to my friends. I do it for me, just to feel a little healthier and more confident.
But the moment one of those guys from before who rejected me comes to me and says, "Hey, you're hot enough for me now," it's going to feel SO good to say, "Thank you. I appreciate that." Then just move right on. Because really, if it it takes me being a muscle guy for someone to appreciate me for WHO I am, not what I look like, do I really want to be with that person when the looks start to fade and REAL life sets in?
Something tells me, "Hmmm, I don't think so."
