Must Have Video Equipment

I know it might be a year or so away, but I am starting to wonder about what camera equipment I will need to create videos. I know I will need a camcorder but what kind do I really need? Should I get the most expensive or 2 of the cheaper ones, or just 1 medium priced one will work good. I also know I will need lights but how many what type? Are these about the only things I need? I was thinking about maybe using screen caps for some pics cuzz I am going to have to do it all myself. I was also thinking about getting most of what I need from Ebay unless anyone knows a better place.

i got a medium-low priced camcorder and it does videos as good as or better than a lot of sites out there. my camcorder allows me to shoot pics simultaneously while i shoot videos and although they are not as good or big as regular pics, they are better than screencaps.

what lights you will need depends a lot on what size room you are planning to shoot in as well as what background colors and materials, how high the ceiling will be and a bunch of other stuff. i started out with 2 500 watt lights from bhphoto video plus a floor and a fill light which i actually got from the hardware store for around $20 each. craigslist did much MUCH better for my stuff than ebay but mostly i bought stuff new at www.bhphotovideo.com for the equipment and www.butterflyphoto.com for the camcorder and later the cameras.

Those do look pretty cool did not know I could get away with going that cheap on the cam. What do you think about these few?

I have seen this one in films allot http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/p...px?sku=PVGS300

I think this one looks cool http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/p...spx?sku=GZMG21

What one would you or anyone most suggest? http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/s...=1100&pti=1100


I was really thinking if its going to be this cheap too save up and get 2 cams, this way it will help make up for my bad shoots with having 2 angles to chose from in editing, and always having a stable shots even when changing one of them. I know I am going to be really bad at first just thinking this would help me allot, but again I have seen some really bad stuff that people use.

Is the sound going to be ok with these cams too? Just seems I would need more to good vocal sounds

the PVGS300 is the baby brother of the PV-GS250, which is my camcorder. while my camcorder cost more, the 300 sounds like a very good option:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...-31660647.html

panasonic has a very good auto setting - so good that it convinced us to buy a panasonic camera, as well. in fact, the 300 sounds good enough to use as a backup. i think i'll be buying one. thanks!

i am not a fan of JVC camcorders myself as i don't care for the video quality, and let's face it - features don't matter if your videos look muddy and flat. perhaps there are some good ones out there that i haven't seen.

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Originally Posted by basschick

the PVGS300 is the baby brother of the PV-GS250, which is my camcorder. while my camcorder cost more, the 300 sounds like a very good option:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...-31660647.html

panasonic has a very good auto setting - so good that it convinced us to buy a panasonic camera, as well. in fact, the 300 sounds good enough to use as a backup. i think i'll be buying one. thanks!

i am not a fan of JVC camcorders myself as i don't care for the video quality, and let's face it - features don't matter if your videos look muddy and flat. perhaps there are some good ones out there that i haven't seen.

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You really think the baby brother Panasonic PV-GS300 MiniDV is a real viable option? I did look at the Panasonic_PV_GS500 model you have now, but its only getting a .2% higher ranking. I am just wondering if I could get away with the 300 and maybe get 2 of them. Of course I can get a ok deal on the model you have as well so no mater what I think I will get 2 of them unless you see a problem with that.

I am just not really that sure about this Cam stuff at all :crazyeyes:

Hey Bass I am getting ready to order a video camera and I was looking at the one you said you used PV-GS250. From what you said this is a better cam than the PVGS300, but I saw a review of the 250

(But that otherwise excellent model turned out to have an unfortunate flaw: its electronic image stabilization didn' t work very well, resulting in shaky footage.)

Do you still think the 250 is better than the 300? I know you said you where going to order the 300 as a back-up just wondering how that worked out.

The price is not important here at all really, in fact I can get the PV-GS250 that you have for less than the baby brother 300. :thumbsup:

300 review
http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...-31660647.html

250 review
http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...tag=prod.txt.1

check out the user reviews. editors don't really use the equip for that long - users do.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/ratings.php
check where both stand in the ratings and go read reviews and specs.

THax bass but I think I am more lost than when I started, they both have the same rating. I guess unless you or anyone else can see a problem I am going to get what you have or had (PV-GS250) seems this one is better from what little I can tell.

God help us all, but next year I hope to be creating a large amount of my own exclusive content. I am really existed, but hope I don’t get in trouble. I will shot reality stuff I am sure, but might be some drinking, fake pot, guys saying “No Please Stop” and such. I just wonder how far I can take things, it will be mostly fake I assume but I do want to make PORN and some of it might look like I am pushing some consent issues or breaking them. :fool:

agreed! , equipment priced "in-between" keep in mind "ease of operation" and "compatibility" with a computer.
i would also advise speaking with someone/site/etc. who's photography interests you! , they may be able to help you further!
i would not suggest anything used , most likely you are dealing with someone else's problem and/or in the event you don't like/not working you can always return it with reciept.

jim

Ya will not get a used cam, but might get some other used things like lights, stands, new lenses stuff like that. I am really drowning in all this other work I have to do right now, but I am going to order this cam sometime in the nest 2 weeks anyway. :egg:

Think it will be fun to play with it, and I do need something less stressful to do from time to time. :thumbsup:

The quality of the film is not what interests me most, I want to create some of this “Uncle Don” crap, just on steroids.

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i would also advise speaking with someone/site/etc. who's photography interests you! , they may be able to help you further!
jim

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Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:

http://www.happysucks.com/0blog/slava.jpg


Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

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Originally Posted by IdolKnights

Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:

http://www.happysucks.com/0blog/slava.jpg


Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

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STYLE!

Something our industry desperately needs

However, when porn gets style doesn't it turn into erotica or art, at which point it stops turning people on?

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Originally Posted by IdolKnights

Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:

http://www.happysucks.com/0blog/slava.jpg


Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

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Ya man these HD cams are not going to work for this reality stuff, I need a good cam that takes good stills, but I do want to keep some amateur feel to it.

I just hope the quality of the 250 will be enough that if I need to in a few years I can possible create real DVD’s with this stuff.

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Originally Posted by Squirt

STYLE!

Something our industry desperately needs

However, when porn gets style doesn't it turn into erotica or art, at which point it stops turning people on?

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Not if I can do anything about it, I think most porn is boring. Who cares if you fly your models all over the world so you can film them with penguins in the background or something. I am sure I will do JO stuff, but if at all possible I will push things as far as I can even with JO stuff. :shitpoke:

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Originally Posted by maxpower

Not if I can do anything about it, I think most porn is boring. Who cares if you fly your models all over the world so you can film them with penguins in the background or something. I am sure I will do JO stuff, but if at all possible I will push things as far as I can even with JO stuff. :shitpoke:

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Style isn't about pushing things as far as you can go, it's about being distinctly unique