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Kobe Bryant got off.
Go figure.
I am sort of getting jack of high profile superstars in the USA seemingly walking on water through shit like this.
All except Tyson of course.
Let's hope that the civil suit finds some justice.
Maybe it's just me, I dunno.
But something stinks and it ain't rabbit.
:biker:
Hmmm....we have this concept in the U.S. that a person is innocent until proven guilty. You're not the only one I heard tonight saying that justice wasn't served. I don't know whether he is guilty or not, I have all along felt that the "girl" who accussed him was looking for something, be it money or ? But, if the prosecution had a sufficient case against him, they would not have requested a dismissal.
I'm not a woman (thank God) and I've never been raped, but I think the usual course of action after being raped does not include having sex with others very soon after the attack.
Like I said.
Maybe it's just me.
But a wise old man once said to me...
If it looks like shit, if it smells like shit and if it tatse like shit it is most likely shit
I am all for innocence until priven guilty..
But like I said....
Something smells and it ain't rabbit.
One man's opinion.
:biker:
i was amazed that they dropped it as well, and am anxious to see how it plays out. there has been some hint that this could be part of the terms in a future settlement on the civic case, that she not testify in the criminal case.
they stated "hardship" as the reason she didn't want to testify, which is certainly understandable. Despite the issue of losing work through a long trial, i beleive the judge was going to allow her real name to be used and her sexual history to be revealed. With this case attracting so much attention world-wide, I'm not sure I'd want to go through it either.
As far as her having sex after being raped, I would agree it is probably not the usual course of action, but is certainly her choice if it is consensual.
Kobe got caught in a few lies, changing his story and such. Also, he just signed a 7-year contract so must've been confident that he could make this all go away somehow. It's a sad commentary on our legal system that if you are rich and and a celebrity, you can pretty much get out of anything.
my 2 cents
her real name and even picture have already been leaked out so i doubt it's that. she's had sex with couple people before and after she had sex with him, or so it's said to have happened - which makes me doubt her whole story
I am with Toy Boy. The Kobe Bryant case smells shitty. I've been an elected DA and prosecuted some awful awful crimes. Rape is an awful crime--and a guilty party should be prosecuted. It is a judgement call to use a subpeona to force a victim to testify, and the case is impossible to make without her testimony. If the case was weak in the beginning, they should not have filed it so quickly before sorting everything out. My gut feeling is that the victim is being paid for her reluctance. I guess justice has its price, and if you have a lot of money you can get away with just about anything.
Chad,Quote:
Originally posted by chadknowslaw
...I guess justice has its price, and if you have a lot of money you can get away with just about anything.
Haven't we known this since O.J.? And, as a professional, my guess is you probably knew it before that.
I keep being optimistic that the justice system really will work, and that prosecutors will do the right thing without regard for their egos, personal vandettas, win/loss ratios, or political pressure. However, I continue to run into morons that have always been underachievers that are hired by cities and counties at very low pay because they can't hold their own in private practice. They don't know how to handle the responsibilities of having such power over other people's lives and abuse that power--their way at getting back at the world for pushing their sorry asses into lockers all their lives. They cave into their own egos, silly personal matters, and pressure from politicians.
I was lucky because I was elected and answered only to the consitutents, not a board, or attorney general, or governor. I also sought to do the right thing, balance the needs of society for protection, the rehabilitation of the individuals unlucky enough to be in my courtroom [all there by their own actions~] the needs of the victims, families of victims, and the families of the defendants. Even though I had a death threat, I did the right thing and I hope I made my little county a safer place to live. I stressed the need for treatment of drug & alcohol problems over jail time. I believe I treated everybody equally, without regard to socio-economic status. The OJ case was just a well-publicized purchase of freedom. It wasn't the first and it damn sure won't be the last. I just didnt think the Bryant case would be so blatant.
Oh well. Life goes on!~
Happy Weekend everybody! I am off to New Orleans for Southern Decadence~ Come on down and I'll throw you some beads :-)
I'd have to disagree with most of the replies in this thread. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but as an average Joe, I don't think you can compare the O.J. Simpson trial with Kobe Bryant. The circumstances were different, and I have a hard time believing that Kobe Bryant would rape anyone. Especially when you consider that she had sex right after the alleged assault. And then, before the criminal trial even went to court, she files a civil suit - that's the smell that you're smelling. As a rape victim, you'd think the thing she'd want the most is to see him in jail, but rather than testify to make that happen, she tries to sue him for millions. Which she will of course win, because juries have a hard time sending celebrities to jail, but have no qualms at all with having them pay.
And the thing that irritates me the most about these high profile cases, is that people always "see" celebrities getting special treatment. Perhaps if people saw how other "criminals" are treated, they'd realize that there is not always a double standard. It's just like I have friends who always talk their way out of tickets, and other friends who always get tickets. And I've heard of people getting different sentences for the same crime. It depends on the judge, the jury, the prosecution and the defense, the evidence, the witnesses.
The only reason people think that celebrities get off easier is because the news always likes to report what the worst case scenario is in these cases. Oh, he could get 3 to 20 years in prison, and they always stress the 20 years, instead of the 3. And then when a celebrity gets the easier sentence, they figure they get special treatment, when in fact normal everyday people get the same sentence; are they getting special treatment too? If I've learned anything, celebrities pay a lot more for the crimes they commit, or don't commit, because they most often lose money, their careers, their families, their lives basically.
Well, I've rambled on enough I believe. Just wanted to add my few cents into the discussion.
Michael
Hey Michael,
I wasn't trying to compare O.J. with Kobe, my point was that we learned that justice is sold to the highest bidder from the O.J. trial.
Like you, I agree that it seems unlikely that Kobe raped her. As I said before, I think she was looking for something-money, a big, black dick or notoriety. And, I had also previously suggested that it isn't not the usual case where a rape victim goes out and immediately has sex with someone else. I agree that I think it was most likely consensual.
But, we have now know for sometime, that, in this country, money talks. The more money you have, the better defense you can buy, the better defense you can buy, the likelier it is that you will achieve the outcome you want. I would hate to be in a position to need to be defended in a felony or capital case and ONLY have the resources for a public defender.
As the “Kids In The Hall” Say: “There are rumors, and then there’s common knowledge”.
Here is the scuttlebutt from up in Vail.
Apparently Kobe has a very large weenie. Outrageously large. One look at his happy happy wife might confirm that.
Apparently the young lady in question was quite willing to go to the room with Kobe for a nice little romp in the hay, until he pulled out his monster dong. At that point she said “Oh no you won’t!”, and he said “Oh yes I will”.
It hurt, and she got pissed.
I’d sue too. I’ve had it happen to me at a bathhouse.
No means no. At whatever point.
Oh, and one more thing.
After the bathhouse incident, I fucked my boyfriend the next day to get over it. It made me feel better. I wonder if she did the same thing?