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Considering only what we know right now, okay, she'll at least be chosen to run. But we've got the rest of this year and all of next year for someone else to pop up. Then it'll be mid-07 before candidacy's are officially announced. A lot can happen before then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
I have a strong feeling that in the end this is going to come down to Hillary and Al Gore fighting for the Democratic spot.
Luke, being an Ozzie I bet you're completely satisfied with Prime Minister Howard eh? After all .. the Australian people voted for him LOL What a jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by Chilihost
There are 286,196,812 Americans 62,040,606 Americans voted for Bush. The majority of Americans did not vote for Bush.
Here is a great article explaining how the last elections were rigged by Bush
I think that the Democratic party know's Hillary will kick but so they wont put anyone else up against her.. and they will put everything they have into her. A think a BIG lesson has been learned from Bush. I also strongly feel that a president who's willing to lie to the people to make a war for oil, is completely capable of fixing votes this last election.. and if he has his way.. Jeb will come up next election and he will mysteriously win as well, but that wont happen, because Bush wont have his way :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Ah ok - well gee wiz. Glad you cited that 62 million figure. Let's keep on reading... 47,402,357 people voted for Clinton in 1996 (49% of the popular vote) and 44,908,233 people voted for him the first time in 1992. (Clinton only got 43% of the popular vote)Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
What are you concluding here? If anything, Bush has a greater nod then many of his predecessors. I don't think you are seeking to make that point.
I think you are grabbing at facts out of context --- like you are at a massive chinese buffet, wontonly snapping up anything in line of sight to fill your plate. Think of it this way --- you know those people who in the Clinton years groaned on and on about his illigitimate Presidentcy, Whitewater, shady financial deals and Monica Lewensky? Go look in the mirror - have you all now become just like those lovely people?
You know, people elect politicians I do not particularly like all the time. I don't conjure up vast conspiracies and poo-poo the overall intelligence of "the electorate."
Drifting over to the new 2257 rules: You know, I do not think it is a mischaracterization for me to recall that Janet Reno was not exactly generous with the adult industry either. It doesn't matter who is in office.
Our sites are simply controverial subjects, and this is a risky business. You just have to stand up to it, stop acting like a victim, and show why we are ultimately right in our case.
I'm glad to see the industry doing that. Now let's try and have a little faith for now.
Steve
I voted democrat but I don't share alot in common with either party. Hillary Clinton just worked with Brownback on some legislation. That can't be seen as a good sign.
Old school democrats and republicans just can't seem to find it within themselves to support gay marriage or anything that puts gays and lesbians on equal footing.
I like the new breed democrats, like the mayor in that small New York town or Gavin Newsome, some guys that have to balls to go to bat for causes regardless of the political fallout. At least there's some hope on the horizon.
If Hillary runs, she will not win regardless of who she runs against. Don't get me wrong, I love Hillary. But do you think that people in the south will ever vote for any woman to be president?
Hey Xtr8guy,
I doubt the dems will spend a penny on the South anytime soon. It will go to the Ohio's, Minnesota's and toss up states. Maybe florida will get some interest but I don't see them going after it this time around.
This is from Bush vs. ClintonQuote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
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They voted for Bill, and Hillary is the closet thing to him.
Many people will actually view a Hillary presidency as a 3rd and 4th term for Bill.
You know, a wise woman in my country once said - everything is in cycles and nothing lasts forever the bad guys fall, it doesn't happen when YOU want it so be patient.
And so there's only so much of the GOP people will handle.
THe more they have power and fuck things up, the better it looks for the other guys.
The GOP dudes are gona fall, all bad things they've done would come out eventually and it will trip them.
It's just a matter of when