the fsc and our industry

okay, since buck went that far...

years ago, gambling was thought of as really awful. then the people who were starting vegas decided to get some positive publicity out there, and now most people think of going to vegas and doing a little gambling as harmless family fun.

i very seriously think we as an industry need to put together some money and hire a big name corporate publicist. how many people outside of us know that our industry donated $50,000 to tsunami survivors? or that porn folks have held benefits and donated money to such programs as children of the night? what about programs like pattyecake's christmas angels that make sure needy kids get presents - from donating webmasters!

and some pornstars and webmasters are articulate, educated, and NOT what most people think about porn people. those people could be out there in the media, changing the dumb bimbo/drug victim image most people have of people in porn.

also 2257 articles right now make us look like lawbreakers and worse. but a publicist with a long history has relationships with a lot of media, and can help combat those articles. the only articles i've seen in mainstream media make it look like we all want cp, instead of the truth - that we already HAD laws to cover this, that were not being enforced (through no fault of ours), and that the new laws are burdensome not only on us but on any possible investigation process.

we can make ourselves seem less like the devil's workers to people and more like sort of naughty people instead. letting people realize the positive side of our industry in the right ways and places could really help.

i suppose the best way would be to form a non profit corporation, but maybe there's be a simpler and faster way to get the funds together to pay our own spin doctor.

any ideas?

I wrote an e mail to The Daily Show. They are my heros :love: when it comes to shining a light on the most stupid of political happenings.

good idea! have you heard back yet?

the catch is that the daily show is where thinking younger people get their news - the daily show viewers are already pretty open-minded. we need to address the rest of the public.

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good idea! have you heard back yet?

the catch is that the daily show is where thinking younger people get their news - the daily show viewers are already pretty open-minded. we need to address the rest of the public.

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No not a peep - but then I really don't expect to. I gave them good links so if they were interested they could do their own research. Of course there is always the chance they find a idiot to interview - they really are skilled at that.

Unfortunately I don't think this is a battle that can be one on the field of public perception and opinion.

Every single adult in the entire United States of America could be an avid fan of adult material and spend tons of money on it every year, but the majority or even a vocal enough minority would never unite behind a movement to protect the First Amendment rights of adult content producers to a degree that'd influence any politicians or anything of the sort.

What people do and what they declare themselves to do are two different things. Adult content is still a sensitive enough issue with most Americans that they'd sit idly by while the industry was regulated out of existence or even support such a move while secretly lamenting their loss of access to what they truly want and enjoy. That's just how people are.

This is a campaign that can only be won in the courts and that can only be waged between lawyers. It's judges that need convincing, not the public. Because public sentiment will never mobilize in favor of the freedom to produce adult content and thus will never translate in to legislation. People simply won't admit they like porn enough for that to happen.

Again, it's advocacy groups and special interest groups and their successes and failures with the judiciary that is our only hope here.

this is what most people say, but gambling used to be considered as bad as porn is considered. they didn't try to change the laws, they worked on public perception.

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Unfortunately I don't think this is a battle that can be one on the field of public perception and opinion.

Every single adult in the entire United States of America could be an avid fan of adult material and spend tons of money on it every year, but the majority or even a vocal enough minority would never unite behind a movement to protect the First Amendment rights of adult content producers to a degree that'd influence any politicians or anything of the sort.

What people do and what they declare themselves to do are two different things. Adult content is still a sensitive enough issue with most Americans that they'd sit idly by while the industry was regulated out of existence or even support such a move while secretly lamenting their loss of access to what they truly want and enjoy. That's just how people are.

This is a campaign that can only be won in the courts and that can only be waged between lawyers. It's judges that need convincing, not the public. Because public sentiment will never mobilize in favor of the freedom to produce adult content and thus will never translate in to legislation. People simply won't admit they like porn enough for that to happen.

Again, it's advocacy groups and special interest groups and their successes and failures with the judiciary that is our only hope here.

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a friend of mine told me that Ron Jeremy was on Howard stern discussing this..I am hoping to get on next. I am doing everything I can to get on whatever show I can to voice my opinion, To let the people know what is going on.

It is true people thing pornograpers are stupid drug crazed idiots! We need to fix that!

At least let the public know then they can make their own dicision.

Basschick I have a call into a girl who was a publicist for years with a big record company she now works in adult so maybe she can help us!

Buck

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"Okay, we're here to help you. But we're gonna need some help as well".

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Don thats my point though, they say they represent the online adult industry however, in the last 5 years, they havent done anything fo us that has resulted in a win in 'our' [the adult industrys] favor.

At least not that i could find.

Perhaps someone would be able to post a link or two about cases they won that directly affect the adult industry?

Id be more than happy to lend our financial support to the FSC as long thy are able of proving that our money is being used for online industry stuff and not zoning laws, which quite frankly, i couldnt care less about.

These people are asking for donations and membership from the online adult industry yet, they have nothing in their portfolio of cases that i can find that has ANYTHING to do with 'us'.

Regards,

Lee

Well, isn't any case won in the name of free speech to our benefit? I take a holistic view of this. A case protecting a magazine's right to publish photographs or a person's rights to show certain types of videos in their bar still affects our rights to publish certain types of web content on our websites, does it not? That's my personal opinion on the matter.

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This is a campaign that can only be won in the courts and that can only be waged between lawyers. It's judges that need convincing, not the public. Because public sentiment will never mobilize in favor of the freedom to produce adult content and thus will never translate in to legislation. People simply won't admit they like porn enough for that to happen.

Again, it's advocacy groups and special interest groups and their successes and failures with the judiciary that is our only hope here.

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Very true and very well put.

What the adult industry needs are not necessarily more "activist judges", but activists period! Lobbying groups, coalitions, advocacy groups etc. But I think that in this country especially, Americans tend to sit back and think "someone else will deal with this I'm sure" until and if it's too late and something terrible happens that finally mobilizes them into action.