2257 w/regard to Foreign ID's

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Originally Posted by Bec

Also, with the above example for instance, how are you all handling ID's that are in another country's language and not English?

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One of the guys I promote is going crazy trying to get Thai and Russian documents translated -- don't know if he's having any luck. :)

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Originally Posted by Bec

Also, with the above example for instance, how are you all handling ID's that are in another country's language and not English?

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I've been paying a fortune to have the god damn things translated by "certified translators". Talk about asinine!

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Originally Posted by JustMe

I've been paying a fortune to have the god damn things translated by "certified translators". Talk about asinine!

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Care to share some resources for foreign translators?

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Originally Posted by Bec

If the model is located in say Thailand, and the set was taken in Thailand by a photographer IN Thailand, we don't need a US ID for that guy or gal right, we'd just need their country's ID and model release to use the set?

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As i understand it, both the model AND the photographer/content producer need to be citizens of the same non-US country in order for a US webmaster to be able to use the content. How this has ANYTHING to do with protecting underage models, I have absolutely no idea.

that's what it actually says in the regs. and i still wasn't clear that a non-u.s. webmaster could use the content.

at some point, i surely hope this part gets defined for us. right now, it's total gibberish.

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Originally Posted by boyfunk

As i understand it, both the model AND the photographer/content producer need to be citizens of the same non-US country in order for a US webmaster to be able to use the content. How this has ANYTHING to do with protecting underage models, I have absolutely no idea.

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Originally Posted by Bec

We are talking foreign models photographed while IN the US correct? If the model is located in say Thailand, and the set was taken in Thailand by a photographer IN Thailand, we don't need a US ID for that guy or gal right, we'd just need their country's ID and model release to use the set?

Also, with the above example for instance, how are you all handling ID's that are in another country's language and not English?

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Bec that is crazy American websites will have to close their doors some one dint read the new laws as suposed to. I my self dont live in the usa but Im sending all webmasters any ID or model release missing and that should be ok.

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Originally Posted by euroxtreme

Bec that is crazy American websites will have to close their doors some one dint read the new laws as suposed to. I my self dont live in the usa but Im sending all webmasters any ID or model release missing and that should be ok.

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I have no clue what part of my comment you're refering to as crazy?

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Originally Posted by boyfunk

As i understand it, both the model AND the photographer/content producer need to be citizens of the same non-US country in order for a US webmaster to be able to use the content. How this has ANYTHING to do with protecting underage models, I have absolutely no idea.

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The Regs says "located" in the foreign country. "located" is not defined as meaning, citizen, resident, employed, or visiting.. this is the problem with the wording in this area..

I am not certain the correct view of this is that you have to be a citizen of a foreign country to use content from that country.

I think the wording on this was written to indicate that the producer has to be on location with the model, physically located where the model is, to verify the model, and the id..so the chain of custody of knowledge of the actual age of the model is intact and accurate.

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Originally Posted by tombarr

The Regs says "located" in the foreign country. "located" is not defined as meaning, citizen, resident, employed, or visiting.. this is the problem with the wording in this area..

I am not certain the correct view of this is that you have to be a citizen of a foreign country to use content from that country.

I think the wording on this was written to indicate that the producer has to be on location with the model, physically located where the model is, to verify the model, and the id..so the chain of custody of knowledge of the actual age of the model is intact and accurate.

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Well it would be much easier for all if that is in fact the interpretation, so I hope that during the discussions and injunctive process this gets clarified.

My problem then would be why it would be OK for a photographer to shoot a Canadian model in Kelowna, BC, 100 feet past the Canadian border crossing, while the same model with the same ID can't be shot in northern Washington on the US side of that same border crossing. Obviously the ID doesn't magically change when it's brought into the US, and the last I heard, US Immigrations had to be confident of someone's identity before allowing them into the US... so I really don't understand what the issue is.

Does anyone know if a *student* visa would be adequate ID, combined with an appropriate foreign government-issued ID? As I remember, the regulations specifically mentioned a green card (work visa), but once again, if the concern is proof of age and identity, a student visa is just as valid. But that would be way too rational and reasonable.

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Originally Posted by boyfunk

...... But that would be way too rational and reasonable.

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Chip I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. I doubt the DOJ was anywhere near considering that anything in this new reg needed to be either rational or reasonable to anyone but themselves....

IMO, A very typical government stand on most any law they write...