well i remember when i was younger i would usually sneak on the computer in the living room since well they had the computer in view of everything but well when they went to bed it was time to rattle the desk a bit :)...
Matt..
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well i remember when i was younger i would usually sneak on the computer in the living room since well they had the computer in view of everything but well when they went to bed it was time to rattle the desk a bit :)...
Matt..
It’s a different age. I guess all the congressman and senators forgot what it was like being a kid. Also the kid’s parents. Put on your thinking cap and go way back, I mean way back. Remember the local candy store? Where you said you were looking at the comic books? What you were doing was looking at playboy?
In a strange way the congressman and senators are right. I agree with them that there is too much hard-core out there. Looking at a tour page it should be like going to the beach, not a bathhouse.
What are they going to do with it? Hell, probably go start another war somewhere. The scary thing is that it is supposed to go to law enforcement to crack down on the illegal activities of child pornongraphy and stopping adult online websites from allowing minors to access the sites. In other words, we will pay to have the government "crack down" on us for allowing kids, who have no parental supervision, from entering our websites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzinerbear
Bill
This is why I always do a little happy dance whenever I read that the network news shows are losing viewers. Public opinion for mainstream journalists is at an all time low. They're abandoning the networks and major publications in favor of alternative news sources.
Have you heard about Paul Hackett, the Democratic Iraq vet who's only five points behind his GOP opponent in an Ohio congressional race? A couple of weeks ago he was a longshot with no money and no major media coverage. But then bloggers started talking about the race and donations started pouring in. Now he has a realistic shot at winning and he's doing interviews with Chris Matthews.
The mainstream media is now lagging behind the internet. We've almost reached a point where TV and print coverage are no longer necessary. We don't need favorable coverage from the Today Show. We can reach the public and shape public opinion on our own.
Check out the blogs and message boards. Few people are buying into this "protect the children" crap.
Having raised a teenager to adult hood, and having a 5 year old boy in the house..... and remembering cleaning goo off the underside of my desk when my eldest was 16.....
Listen, porn for grown-ups is great. Heck, I suppose porn for 16 year old boys is great too....
But I HATE the fact that when I am surfing innocently along, and I mistype a URL, I am frequenly faced with a cum covered BBW with a truncheon up her butt.
I hate to say it folks, but because we as an industry have done such a piss poor job of policing ourselves, the outcome was inevitiable. I thinkthat perhaps some age verification MIGHT be in order for access to porn. (Credit cards are good age verification, that part was bullshit). I don't like the fact that there is free hardcore porn so easily available to kids.
Had we all agreed to play by the same rules, with black non-graphic splash pages, non-explicit tours, age verification for access to adult material - had WE made protecting kids from porn one of our priorities, had we (we are the best and brightest in the computing world folks - and we make the most money!!!!) figured out good age verification standards - we would STILL be fighting for our right to exist, but at least we would have a leg to stand on.
MOST of us do try and discourage kids. We don't want them, they don't have money. But then we have these MFing companies who redirect URL's, autodownload porn and dialers, etc.... and we, as a group, shrugged our shoulders and said "But, hey - it's a revenue model".
I am a pornographer, and proud of it. But I am also a parent, and you know - I see thier point of view.
I agree that some porn sites are out of control and they try to get people by mistyped url's and using misleading meta tags. But this age verification will do nothing to fix this problem. How would this law affect porn hosted in other countries? Answer, it wouldn't. There would be no way to ensure all porn sites use this US government AVS. There are politicians that still think American owns the internet and can impose any law they feel like on the net. This thinking is so naive it is not even funny. Also having one AVS company collecting all this data will just get hacked and cause major problems for everyone. Not to mention the government collecting all the personal data and knowing what sites you visit is a very scary thought..
You are right... a huge AVS wouldnt do it, and it wont control porn from other countries....
My arguement, however - is that we could have / should have set up our OWN standards. In a utopion society - of course. :)
A few stupid, greedy and unethical people have done most of the damage. But then again, we stood by and watched silently as they did it.
i usually get a non-adult search page full of spyware when i mistype a url...
This is not a legitimate third party report. It was written specifically to slam porn without regard to accurate statistics. No investigation was done directly by Third Way. Instead they cite sources whose accuracy is questionable.
One example is their (most damaging) claim that 12 to 17-year-olds are the biggest users of online porn. The mainstream media has even begun putting this figure out.
That statistic is cited to a book called "The Science of How Internet Pornography Radically Alters the Human Brain and Body." So it's no surprise they'd make such a claim in a book like that.
I've tried to find out exactly how they came to that finding to no avail, but we'll assume it was simply through random questioning of various age groups. This certainly lead to inaccurate numbers since kids would be more likely to admit to looking at porn than adults would due to it's taboo nature in mainstream America.
They also mention http://internet-filter-review.topten...phy-statistics in their citation of that particular claim. Their motto is "We Do The Research So You Don't Have To," yet offer no insight as to how this research was conducted. This site is in fact merely an affiliate promoting various filtering programs and using shock value as their marketing method towards parents. Not exactly a reliable source this "report" should have been citing.
Furthermore, adult site traffic logs totally debunk the 12-17yo theory. If kids really did account for 70% of porn traffic, we'd expect to see a huge decrease in traffic numbers during school day hours. This simply is not the case.
Another thing that ticks me off about this report is their inclusion of ADULTS to inflate their child stats...
57% of 9-19 year olds with internet access have come into contact with online pornography.
60% of 15-24 year olds either know how to get around filtering software or know someone who can show them how.