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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
Catch a clue dude..he's on the staff here and allowed to POST! DOH!
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LOL Yeah I was about to say, it's not spam when you're a moderator AND the owners know about it LOL
Are you guys looking at relocating mainly because of the internet porn tax that might pass or just because this country has gone to shit or all the above? My accountant thought their might be ways around this new tax. How are they going to know how does porn and who doesn't? What do you think Chad?
Mark
Actually not presently PLANNING to move, just exploring the options ...
Motivation, a general trend in the USA of anti adult legislation making the business climate less than attractive..combined with The probability that these type of attacks will not be ceasing any time soon....
Just tired of fighting the battle for the last 8 years in the USA...need to explore other options for going forward long term...
Visa/MC, Amex issues, Third party processor restrictions, 2257, Porn Tax, FTC Registration screening,
Whether they all pass or not, everyone here that has been around for a long time knows that it's been a constant battle, and hard to run a business when every time you turn around someone is trying to change the rules to put you out of business...
Anyway, enough of my ranting, just want to look at what's available on a very even and level headed basis .... knowledge helps make better planning.
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Originally Posted by tombarr
But when the dust settles, as an American citizen, you're still going to be bound by most laws/regulations. Offshore just ain't the haven it once was for large corporations (well, ok, for the REALLY large companies, it still is).
I wish it was as easy as buying a mailbox in the Bahamas and incorporating there to avoid the "unpleasantness" of this Administration and it's arbitrary rulings on the American people, but it's just not that easy to wiggle your way out of "the American Dream" once you are already a part of it.
My 2 cents.
What a timely topic of discussion for me. I just received notice from my new host that my busiest site is against their terms of service for being "pornographic". Folks, my busiest site is a damn message board, for cryin' out loud! People do post pics of their penises in a section that is separate from the main part of the site, but there aren't even any pics of sexual intercourse.
I would say that the best approach is to be flexible, and to not count on any one country to solve all of your problems. I see no problem with having my sites hosted in The Netherlands, incorporating in Canada, and having bank accounts in yet another country.
I keep thinking (like a fool) that things are going to get better in the U.S., but I'm proven wrong again and again.
Maybe there is not ONE country that can handle everything on the list,Quote:
Originally Posted by Slade
but maybe there is a "mix" of countries that would be good for an adult company, one for hosting, one for banking, one for merchant accounts, etc... preferably the financial ones would be centralized in a country where taxation is not terrible... however it appears the most liberal for our industry are in countries where taxation is very high..... but of course survival and growth in a higher tax environment is better than dying a slow death by legislation and the threats of imprisonment for a paperwork error in the land of the American dream.
there have always been hosts that don't allow adult. instead of worrying, just move to an adult-friendly host.
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Originally Posted by MisterMark
Yes, well, I've been with 3 "adult-friendly hosts", and the service has been mediocre to poor. I know there are adult-friendly hosts in the U.S. I'm just sick of the anti-sex "Culture of Life" that seems to have taken over the U.S.
I think the way of controlling it is that we will all have to be registered under theire new " verification service" it wil be a simple matter for them to cross check what sites are sending traffic to the verification servoce against the corpoations that are paying the taxes. expact the next move to be forced registering sof all your sites with your corpaorate business information soemwhere.Quote:
My accountant thought their might be ways around this new tax. How are they going to know how does porn and who doesn't?
I hear the moon has some good pornography laws at the moment ;)
Regards,
Lee
i know what you mean about the anti sex culture, but honestly there are many good adult hosts out there.
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I started off with Velcom and they were a good host. They accept adult and actually they're the people who run Adult Bouncer and Gay Bouncer.
I moved to Chili Host because my sites were getting too big and my needs were getting too techinical. I needed someone who could help me with my problems and not nickel and dime me on everything I wanted to do. I also found that since Luke ran sites himself that he understood my needs.
Velcom was a very good company, I really didn't have any problems with them and they were reliable. But their tech staff answering the phones didn't know what an AVS was, so that meant a lot of extra explaining when I had problems.
Cheers
dzinerbear
We've talked about taxes and ourselves, but think a little more fundamentally here. Want to live in a country with no bill of rights? If you move to England or Spain, would you be afforded Miranda protections? Is there an absolute right to an attorney, or a right against self incrimination?Quote:
Originally Posted by tombarr
Remember last week when the British police killed that guy who was fleeing, and turned out he had nothing to do with terrorism? Be aware: Those are very different legal systems....
Not to pick nits, but if a cop violates your rights, or seizes stuff without a warrant, are they as strict as the United States in disallowing that in court?
I think in other countries the police can engage in many more instances of warrantless searches. (as in the recent terrorist searches happening in London lately)
What about free speech protections? In many instances, those governments can censor speech a lot more easily in the US.
I have wondered about this: In Spain, it took one vote by their House of Commons to legalize same sex marraige. It didn't matter what their upper body Senate said about it. Does that mean that another parliament can go and redefine marriage with another vote? There is a lot to be said for the US system of checks and balances.
This is why even though the US Congress can pass a law like 2257, our judicial check has prevented enforcement for seventeen years, and even though the US Congress can pass COPA, the court can strike it down.
I'm not impugning any of these fine countries. My point is be careful with what we take for granted here. We all operate under rules of law, but the laws are all different.
Steve
I don't know all of the details, but the 2 attorneys I've worked with have said that the European Union now guarantees more privacy rights than the U.S.Quote:
Originally Posted by desslock