I can't find a link to a blog post I believe it was or an interview with one of the ICANN members and why it's a bad idea to have the UN control it.
Now everything is decentralised but with the UN if things become centralised then the rules also become centralised. Everything becomes across the board even. All dos and don'ts will be the same no matter where in the world you are
Not really, it rather seems the fruit of several inventions:Quote:
Regarding modern television, it was invented by Vladimir Kosma Zworykin ( a Russian born American ) and Philo Taylor Farnsworth ( a Utah farm boy ) , as was the first television camera. SOURCE and no I don't think Americans created everything and the world owes us
http://inventors.about.com/library/i...n_timeline.htm
And there had been a television demonstration in Paris in 1900. Constantin Perskyi is the one who was the first to use the word "television" then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_Perskyi
And it was more than 20 years before Vladimir Zworykin patents his iconscope a TV camera tube.
So I guess we can say TV is a Russian invention. Could Russians ask for the control of US Tv as US is having for control of Russian web?
Yes, yes, I know, it's not a so clever idea... for the US, of course...
[QUOTE=Axel]Not really, it rather seems the fruit of several inventions:
http://inventors.about.com/library/i...n_timeline.htm
And there had been a television demonstration in Paris in 1900. Constantin Perskyi is the one who was the first to use the word "television" then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_Perskyi
And it was more than 20 years before Vladimir Zworykin patents his iconscope a TV camera tube.
So I guess we can say TV is a Russian invention. Could Russians ask for the control of US Tv as US is having for control of Russian web?QUOTE]
He's a Russian born American... as I stated in my post. You mean to say foreign born Americans aren't real Americans? Whateva
I guess RCA was pretty stupid to be paying royalties for television to Farsnworth since 1939 then eh? LOL
Dude if you're going to take the time to reply to a post I make with links...at least take the time to read the link I provide.
Also just google the patent number for television to see who invented it. Pretty simple
In the link I provided it explains it pretty well:
"Zworykin is usually credited as being the father of modern television. This was because the patent for the heart of the TV, the electron scanning tube, was first applied for by Zworykin in 1923, under the name of an iconoscope. The iconoscope was an electronic image scanner - essentially a primitive television camera. Farnsworth was the first of the two inventors to successfully demonstrate the transmission of television signals, which he did on September 7, 1927, using a scanning tube of his own design. Farnsworth received a patent for his electron scanning tube in 1930. Zworykin was not able to duplicate Farnsworth’s achievements until 1934 and his patent for a scanning tube was not issued until 1938. The truth of the matter is this, that while Zworykin applied for the patent for his iconoscope in 1923, the invention was not functional until some years later and all earlier efforts were of such poor quality that Westinghouse officials ordered him to work on something “more useful.”
In the late thirties, when RCA and Zworykin, who was now working for RCA, tried to claim rights to the essence of television, it became evident that Farnsworth held the priority patent in the technology. The president of RCA sought to control television the same way that they controlled radio and vowed that, “RCA earns royalties, it does not pay them,” and a 50 million dollar legal battle subsequently ensued.
In the height of the legal battle for patent priority, Farnsworth’s high school science teacher was subpoenaed and traveled to Washington to testify that as a 14 year old, Farnsworth had shared his ideas of his television scanning tube with his teacher.
With patent priority status ruled in favor of Farnsworth, RCA for the first time in its history, began paying royalties for television in 1939.
Philo Farnsworth was recently named one of TIME Magazine's 100 Greatest Scientists and Thinkers of the 20th Century. "
The inventing country of the TV (whoever it was) can't claim control over another countries TV programming since TV is not dependent upon the inventing country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel
The US is not claiming control over a Russian-only internet or a France-only internet or an internet that France and Germany builds between each other.
However, it is my understanding that the US physically owns what makes the world wide internet possible. If a Russian looks at an Australian website, then American owned physical technology is involved.
Hi Squirt,
I know quite a lot about TV history too, and I can provide links too:
Vladimir Zworykin is born in Russia, studied in Russia and worked also in Russia. Yes, he worked also in the US, but that doesn't make him a US citizen!Quote:
He's a Russian born American... as I stated in my post. You mean to say foreign born Americans aren't real Americans? Whateva
See even what is writen on US FFC site: http://www.fcc.gov/omd/history/tv/1880-1929.html
"and Russian émigré Vladimir Zworkin, working for Westinghouse and later RCA"
émigré : it's a French word that means he is a foreigner, not a US citizen.
I also worked in the US: that doesn't make me an American... think about it.
In about.com site, it is said "Russian inventor, Vladimir Zworykin invented the cathode-ray tube" not Amercian inventor.
http://inventors.about.com/library/i...blzworykin.htm
I did, as you should have too:Quote:
Dude if you're going to take the time to reply to a post I make with links...at least take the time to read the link I provide.
"Television was not invented by a single inventor, instead many people working together and alone, contributed to the evolution of TV."
from http://inventors.about.com/library/i...n_timeline.htm
Vladimir Zworykin was a U.S. citizen. Deal with itQuote:
Originally Posted by Axel
"Zworykin served during World War I in the Russian Signal Corps. In 1916 Zworykin married Tatiana Vasilieff (later they were divorced) and they had two children. Rosing disappeared during the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. Soon Zworykin also decided to leave Russia for the United States. He emigrated to the United States in 1919 and became a naturalized citizen in 1924. " source
"Zworykin decided to leave Russia for the United States in 1919" source
"In 1926 he received a Ph.D from the University of Pittsburgh." source
"In 1924, Zworykin became a naturalized citizen of the United States." source
During his American Ph.D education in 1923 is when he demonstrated the first crude television with his employers at Westinghouse and put in a patent for the television. He then got a job at RCA where they funded over $50,000,000 to create the modern television.
I agree with jIgG and Matt.. I think the internet will fragment for EXACTLY the reason this thread keeps getting sidetracked... people bitching about who did what and who owns what. I think we should have a separate internet and share only with our allies... let the French, Russians, China etc continue along their separatist paths and see what they come up with.
I think the world is far to open and connected these days.. to many people with different ideals clashing , bombing, etc. Let the middle east be. Let Russia be, let china be. We should focus on ourselves and bettering our lives before we attempt to bring the world up to speed technologically.
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A brilliant use of your pre cum!Quote:
Originally Posted by Happysucks
Now Geeezzz,Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
If we don't continue to "Open up" the world. I will never be able to purchase Kraft Dinner in France. And my cravings for Kraft Dinner are legendary, even amoungst Newfoundlanders.
"H'y B'ys, do't be gett'n in da we-ay of a Newfie nd 'is Kraft Dinn'r!!!
Especially if he be one ov dem Acadie Newfs. -
Da's rares s'ya knows n str-ah-nge. Once I done's wat-sh one-of-er-em eat a seal flipper pie wit's kat-sup-s on er. An dat iz str-ah-nge"