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I do have quite a few movies on my own server its about 20gigs, but I don’t make my own movies you know. Really I wanted to get all the big feed companies out of the way first, I get allot more bang for my buck to start off with. Most people want Live content and full-length movies, I am just about done with that now and will be moving to get more “in house content” but really I need more members first
i wasn't speaking of exclusive movies but of movies that your members can watch that are not plugins. how many movie scenes total do you currently have hosted on your site for your members?
500 or so right now, but I have to grow before I can pay out 20,000$ for movies that do not update.
you offer your member 500 scenes - not clips, but full scenes?
What is it you think I am doing so wrong? I have run almost every affiliate program at one time or another and my site is doing better than any I have used. Most sites are only 5 pages and really I don’t see too many people getting rich off of gay traffic now days. Even your Fav. site gay demon only has 2 people. I am always trying to improve my site, but the biggest site badpuppy promotes 90% feeds like I do. Not really sure I have seen to many that promote their own content very much. Only a few and normally they are kinda small sites.
i have seen over 700 adult paysite member areas as a site reviews and very few have only 5 pages. the ones that do have few pages are generally reality sites, and they have 50 scenes with pics and videos listed on those 5 pages - and they generally have a theme like sk8r boyz or college dropouts or something to tie it all together.
if you have 500 scenes for your members, your site is huge and with a better tour and smarter marketing would probably do quite well - as long as the videos aren't small or bad quality.
Scenes you mean full movies, sorry I really don’t know all the lingo man, I only work alone some times I make up my own words for thing LOL. Videos over 20 min. on my own server I would say its around 100+, but yes that is my weakest point right now. I really needed to have movies that update to start with. Really soon I will be expanding that but like I said I need members to do that, I have to have a profitable site
700 is all? I was thinking I could get up in to the thousands. That really kinda sucks I have about 200 and my site is really new, and around ½ done. 90% of members do not know the difference between a feed and in house content for the out side before they join, and I would bet the 10% that do change sites all the time anyway.
scenes are movie scenes - it's not a technical term ;) a scene ends with a cumshot mostly. most scenes are between 8 and 20 minutes long. 100 scenes is pretty respectable, and way over what most sites start with. if those videos are pretty good quality, i'd focus my tour FAR more on them and far less on the plugins.
Thanks for all the advice, Patti! Much appreciated! Your advice is sound of course, and I guess only time will tell which sponsors will do well with which site. I am willing to give quite a few a shot.
I have actually signed up with LiveDiesel as well. I'm on dial-up this weekend (:turtle: :turtle: :turtle: ) so can't really dive into work. Diesel's site isn't built for dial-up, lol. The only thing I think I did note was that he had a semi-nude female around in the promo... I need to look into it again, just to make sure this is indeed a gay site ;)
OK I will really try that, soon I will be moving out of the plug-in thing, but its necessary right now. Not to sure how long people would stay around just to see 500 videos though. People are really fickle now days, normally they care about live stuff above all else.
tigermom - i've been in the member area. diesel is definitely marketed for men ;) it's mostly solo with lots of muscle and masturbation.
nomad0023, you've only been up a few days. maybe it's time to rethink your member area - sounds like you don't really know much about what sites do out there or what retains.
if you have 500 videos, start the site with 200 videos - which is more than most sites have - and then update every day. you'll have months of updates, and members will stay for daily updates as long as the videos are watchable quality. what's more, being able to tell your surfers you have daily updates is going to get their juices flowing. many sites update maybe 1 time per week.
if you have 100, start the site with 75 videos and update 2 times per week. does your site offer screen caps of the movies or actual pics?
Tigermom did you look at my site? can you let know what you think?
In the next stage I will be adding all kinds of in house new videos, and I will remember to rotate them. BTW you know a good content provider for that that will not cost me a arm and a leg?
Semi Nude Female on the promo????? Yikes. Time to get the glasses checked. LOL Its definitely a site for gay men.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigermom
Thanks for mentioning Diesel, Patti.
As far as small programs and pricing, one thing that we've done recently is to increase the one time cost to $34.95, which encourages the recurring memberships at $24.95. Either way, the affiliate makes more.
While a small single site program is at a disadvantage as far as huge ad budgets, flashy graphics and hosted galleries and a stable of sites to promote, single site programs are worth a look. Most are not over-exposed, most sell well if given a shot, and a surfer doesn't know the difference between a small affiliate program and a big one. The surfer wants something they haven't seen before-- small programs offer that.
I've always done better with smaller programs than the big ones, personally. Conversions of 1/300 are pretty common, as opposed to 1/1000 (or worse) for the bigger ones.