Glad I don't read your book... and yeah those other niches don't sell worth shit..Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
Glad I don't read your book... and yeah those other niches don't sell worth shit..Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
Gee maxpower, where have you been all of my webmaster career? I had no idea I should only be making tons of twink and teen sites (aren't they the same thing?).
The gay world does not revolve around whatever you say it does. That's a small-minded attitude. You are correct that gay culture is youth oriented but so is all of american society. But that certainly doesn't mean that there is no demand for anything other than youth.
There are billions of people in the world and only 3-10% are gay. According to your logic, we shouldn't even bother making gay sites at all. Why bother with only 5% of the market when we could all make straight sites and capture the other 95% of the market?
Why don't I bother with twink and straight sites? Because I would rather focus my attention on something I enjoy and understand. And that doesn't include twinks. I can sell mature, hairy, bear, leather, etc. sites all day long. I couldn't sell the best twink site in the world with 1,000,000 hits a day. However, I could sell a crappy bear paysite with a 10 year old Chris Steele photoset from Ounique on my fake TGP that gets about 200 hits a day
maxpower, I would appreciate your opinion more if you only tried to discuss things that you really know about. You have become a very active member of this board and I'm sure you have something of value to add. But please, for everyone's sake, try to restrain yourself from spouting off about things that you know absolutely nothing about. Please!
Thanks. My $3.50
I don’t have any problem with you making bear sites, or anything else you want trust me man, in fact I wish more people did. No one lessons to me, I never claim to be some kind of gay messiah. I was just talking about Hot Desert Knights and other feed companies going to younger content, and why they might be doing so. Sorry if I made you mad was not my intent
Don't let them get to you man, I was lessoning to you.
lysdexia? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JustBryce
Ha Ha I know your joking but its just nice to talk to people that even know what I am talking about sometimes that is, even if they don’t agree with meQuote:
Originally Posted by JustBryce
Unless someone does a very in depth study of the market and what sells (and I am not sure you actually could since there soooo many variables) no one can really say that X sells better than Y. I agree that you should make sites in the niche that personally TURN YOU ON...if you make a site that YOU would buy...a tour that would motivate YOU to get YOUR credit card out then you will make MORE MONEY than if you simply try to build a site that you think will be popular.
In my case that is 18 - 22 year old LATINOS...they really turn me on so that is what I concentrate on. Sure, it's a micro niche within the twink niche and ethnic niche...perhaps I have limited my potential customers BUT it's what I enjoy and I think I can therefore SELL it very well.
Lee
bear traffic sent to a quality bear site sells MUCH better than twink. it's true that there is a lot more twink traffic, but i make more money with bear than twink every time, whether we're talking about gallery traffic, avs traffic or search engine traffic.
in fact, till last june 22 my best selling niche after muscle was grandpas. there is no paysite for that around, so i made a premium avs site of guys 55 - 70. it had incredible conversions - and that's not just about gay. i had a site for years called "grandma's hairy pussy". it was all unshaved women 45 - 70 and was one of my all-time best selling str8 niches.
maxpower, feeds have nothing to do with sales or niche success. guys who make feeds want to get the most webmasters to buy, not surfers. so while having more twink and teen feeds could mean that more webmasters have twink sites, it doesn't mean they're making more money or better sales. i know plenty of guys with twink sites who have to work a day job to pay the bills - but they have all the regular feeds.
check out older4me.comQuote:
Originally Posted by basschick
exclusive content and has a good members area
My 2 cents:
It seems that with the number of people on the internet, it's likely that ANYTHING will sell (let's not forget the guys-breaking-balloons site) if you can find the traffic for it.
Hell, if you happen to have the only guys breaking balloons site, or the only twinks eating ice cream naked while wearing a Mickey Mouse hat site, and you can find the traffic, you can probably find 1000-2000 people throughout the Web universe that will want to see that content.
Twinks might be "lowest common denominator" (I think even that is debateable) but I think one can do extremely well with other areas, provided one has the traffic.
We'd do bear sites in a heartbeat if we understood the niche and had the traffic to feed it... who knows, maybe it will be on our project list for 2007? :)
Well I was just glad they where making more of the feeds that fit into what I am doing is all. I know it is really hard to make-it, luckily I have been making twink sites for years and have a regular viewer baseQuote:
Originally Posted by basschick
I dont know how this turned into an exclusively "bear" thread, that wasnt the origional intent, lol
I just dont get how some of these companies (pr simon, hdk, etc etc) who were all masters of this kind of different daddy/bear/rugged men content would steer away from it when there seems to be such a huge demand for it
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Originally Posted by Marc
Well you know what I think man, its really not that popular or profitable :roadie: I few years ago Hunk or Stud content was mainstream now I think twink content has taken its place, but what the hell do I know.
it's a lot easier to find younger athletic models. that could be a factor. also they might want to cross some niche lines and sell to more markets. maybe they have a new director who likes a different type of guy.
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Originally Posted by Marc
I review for Hot Desert Knights, and honestly am enjoy the new look. No I am not saying there is anything wrong with the models they have before. But if a studio continues to use the same stereo typed model don't they become stagnate after a while.
I just did a review on a euro based video called "Backseat Butt Fuckers", and found it rather good. A few flaws here and there, but over all pretty good. But then you got to remember when one does reviews it's based on their opinion and their opinion alone. I'm not defending HDK, just explaning my view is all
Marc