I am just glad we had some drama around here that did not involve me :argue:
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I am just glad we had some drama around here that did not involve me :argue:
Why would you do that? Again, common business sense, if those 120 staff are making you money keep them, drop the affiliates that are COSTING you money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Gaskell
Okay, you now have me confused, are you, or are you not, doing the submitting for all of your affiliates AND paying them 60% or, are you only submitting for a few of your affiliates and paying them 60%?Quote:
There are affiliates not using partner accounts 100%, we help them do that and it's about turning a profit which is common sense, but commome sense is not all that common.
If the only affiliates that are making you money are the ones that you are doing all the work for then yes.. Drop them, i GUARANTEE you'll be making AT LEAST 60% more per month by continuing to do what you are doing for them, for yourself.Quote:
Yea, lets drop all our affiliates LEE, your right they never bring any business and why have them, they don't help anything they don't even make extra sales or bring in "type in traffic" they don't get sales on from branded galleries.
We don't need links links links....
Again, im going to try and make this as simple to understand as possible...Quote:
No lee, you told me deecash are losing money, DEE has like 450 employees or somthing.
Yes he must have his numbers wrong and you should be his business advisor as your a leader in the biz with all this stature.
If DeeCash are doing all the work for their affiliates and still paying them 60% DeeCash are losing money.
Look at it this way, if DeeCash did everything they are doing for their affiliates right now, but, they did it for themselves, how much of the sales would they be keeping? 100% right?
Compare that to the 40% they make right now.
That sure seems like a 60% loss in profits to me, anyone who can see where i am wrong on this, please post and let me know.
Yes i do pay for software, pcs etc, but, i never pay full price for them, its called 'haggling' you should try it next time you go to a store to spend $3000 on a new machine, offer the salesguy $2800 instead, 9 out of 10 times they will accept.Quote:
Arrrhh, ok got it - so you don't pay for computers or software and you have how many staff lee?
No, the bottom line is, you are losing out on an additional 60% profit every month, you may be good at what you do but, you suck at business 101.Quote:
Well for $500 set up we give you a fully loaded computer that costs us $2000 and we have spent more that $200K with Mircosoft in 6 months.
The bottom line is we are good at what we do and anyone not using our service should ask why, cos we got staff working at $595 a month and up.
I got them for $8 each with unlimited revisions by someone who knows the gay design business very well and no, i only saw the banners you had in your portfolio which, at the time, were all broken images and, incidently, you still have errors on your portfolio page.Quote:
Dam you got them cheaper than $10 a banner with 3 revisions each i think it was.
Were the banners that we showed you the ones that were done for adult.com and pimproll.com or i might be wrong there.
Regards,
Lee
Not to be devil's advocate, but... you haven't been banned! So isn;t this thread a little pointless and just a tad bit antagonistic?
Rocky
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Originally Posted by EonFilms_Rocky
Just a bit???? Talk about the understatement of the year! LOL! :)
What, no nakey ones? :develish:Quote:
Originally Posted by EonFilms_Rocky
Haha! I don't see YOU knockin down my door!Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
:-p
Rocky
Is this just another case of good business behaviour of xxxoutsourcing?
Of what I read just now I would not conduct any business with them whatsoever. To me openly attacing someone like that is just not right.
We had some threads about someone else owing money to others - but this guys reputation is burried by now - I can't imagine Lee's reputation is dead.
I personally have had considered with going with xxxoutsourcing but now I step away from that since just threateing of disclosing placed orders (eventhough Lee said it was just quotes) is way to much for me and my personal sense of data privacy. A company disclosing customer data should not get that much business done in this very delicate biz we are in.
I recon xxxoutsourcing has been in business quite some time but that did it for me.
DEVELISH
i'm with you here. no matter what lee did - or what greg feels lee did - his posting this thread stands out as some of the least professional behavior i've ever seen - and i've been posting at gfy for over 3 years.
i wouldn't want to discover MY business being posted on a board just because greg didn't like something i did or said.
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Originally Posted by DEVELISH
Yeah, this is sort of unusual behaviour from Greg, who I know real well. He did say he was going to sleep so maybe it is lack of REM, he does has a new son.
Anyway, I sure wouldn't use it as the deciding factor of if I used his services. I have had staff there for a couple years near and their work is impreccable. And it wouldnt stop me from recomending his company to people that need full time employees.
Maybe him being this mean is what makes his employees so attentive to my needs. hehehehehe
Wow, I have to say I was really shocked by this thread. I know Greg quite personally, and have known him for the last 2 years, so I really didn't expect this. I know he has been under a lot of stress, and with the lack of sleep maybe he just lost it? I think I may have been the one who introduced Greg to Lee, but I am very sad and sorry it turned out this way...I'm hoping they can resolve this personally but have a feeling it's not very likely now. :(
Greg, think you will lose some business on this one buddy cuz this does make you look kinda a hardass, really only good to take these disputes on boards as a last, last resort and if it's really a lot of money IMHO. And even then I think it's better you just go to a lawyer...
well... you know that we don't work with anyone over 22 :) Though I've often thought that starting up a "hot webmasters" site would be a good idea:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by EonFilms_Rocky
Basschick, your normally on the ball in all threads i have seen from you andQuote:
Originally Posted by basschick
your 110% right there and that is like anyone who knows me and does business with me is not something that i do.
I don't mind helping anyone and being there at anytime for anyone "support and service" i don't like timewasters as i don't waste peoples time.
There is always a % of time wasters of course and we will deal with that or try to educate people on using our services and how they can benifit.
We don't dicuss clients business on the boards or anywhere else as we have an NDA with every client.
My intentions were not to come accross to discuss details on opinions, but to let people know that and i'm sure others know on here that some people like to make orders and don't follow through with what they said and in more than one occasion.
It has nothing to do with posting about me not in agreement with anyones opinion at all as everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i respect that.
Yea you hit the nail on the head there as i think it was 2 days no sleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyz
You know me Danny and you know my style and how we run an operation.
It's nothing to do with money here, I'm just blowing up here.
nevertheless, if you weren't happy with how things were going with lee, why didn't you just say no to what he wanted instead of getting all pissed off?
personally when i first do business with someone, i start off gradually and make sure i'm comfortable before going further with it.
Looking back at it, yes that is what I should have done, but I didn't and i was all pissed off and here is where we are at.Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
Maybe i need a vacation to put things in perspective and not be such a hardass. :juggle: