Anyone ever hear of an "adult modeling agency" called Red Temple Entertainment?

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Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip

Brian is about one of the most drama-free and ego-free people I've run into in this business, he has no reason to go there.

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Well he went there

I'm not gonna touch the ego-free comment... it's to easy

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Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip

And to Brian's point... yes, it is a little scary what "scouts" will say... we had one (who wasn't even working for us anymore at that point) telling some prospective model he could not only get them modeling with us, but get them a job, and magazine covers, etc... I wouldn't have believed it because the scout had at one time been reliable, but it was overheard by another person who I knew to be reliable, and the "model" so scouted also confirmed the account.

I think that it's a "brush with greatness" thing... the scouts want desperately to be accepted and thought of as Someone Important so by claiming to know so-and-so at such-and-so studio, they can impress their friends, be popular at parties... and probably get laid along the way

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Scouts play an important part on many of the biggest, most popular, sites. I think puting down all of them and giving them this strange stereotype is short sighted. There are always some bad apples in every industry but they don't represent the industry, or industry sector, as a whole.

I've never used a scout, but the scouts I have known, and that others have used, have done a great job bringing hot guys to the industry, and for them it's a money making venture for their commission, not a brush with greatness ego feed.

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Originally Posted by CorbinFisher_BD

I wonder if they then wonder what the "_BD" stands for.

The person who ICQed you thinking I was Corbin is more than welcome to continue believing so, while occasionally wondering why everyone calls Corbin on GWW "Brian".

Ask Corbin (that'd be me). He'd (I'd) tell ya CorbinFisher is my (his) company, as well :)

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Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip

Echo Brian's comment.

Any Southwest employee or FedEx employee or probably any other employee who is proud of the company they work for will refer to it as "My company."

Brian is about one of the most drama-free and ego-free people I've run into in this business, he has no reason to go there.

BTW, isn't it funny that people think they "know" Corbin Fisher when there IS no Corbin Fisher. (Well, I suppose that one of the owners could claim the name, but it's more of a brand name than something associated with one person, from what I understand.)

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Thanks, Chip! :)

Yes, I will agree most scouts will lie,cheat and steal to get what they want, and YES I will agree that most scouts will also be in it for thier OWN gain, and not caring about the talent. But we can all agree, The studios and the site's need the talent and some of the talent needs to be babysat by the recruiter/scout/agent. Some of us out here are respectable and have a good, strong reputation. I have never heard of that "other" company, so I wont put him down, But any respectable agent or scout should know NEVER to make a promise ...never tell talent I will get this, or I can get that, the flavor of the day changes all the time and nobody can guarantee ANYTHING. I have been doing this about 4 years, and yes, while there have been failures, most of the people that know me will attest that if talent isnt right for a project, I will tell them in advance.... But again, it is all about communication. I am not here to 100% tout my own horn, but there are a few honest and hard working guys out there.....Sometimes we need to be "Cultivated" by you guys as to what you need, and then we can go find it.
Sorry for blabbering on
H

Howard and Fabscout are one of the good guys. I was extremely impressed when I spoke to you in Florida at the Internext show awhile back and saw how much you cared about the models, their well-being and what was best for them, along with what was best for the studios - including matching up the right guys with the right studios, as opposed to simply sending out as many guys to as many different places in the hopes of landing the most possible referral fee checks right away.

Howard, I too have heard really good things about FabScout. One of the things I'm curious about is whether models who work with you are obligated for everything to go through you, or whether if a model has contacted someone before they went with you or someone approaches them directly, if the deal is obligated to go through you.

I can see advantages and disadvantages to both, but it seems that in the commercial modeling world, most models aren't exclusive to the agencies that represent them, and some are even represented by more than one. Just curious what you've seen (or what you do) in your experience.

I have no "EXCLUSIVE" deals with any of "my" guys. Most of the guys that are with me, are here because they want to be. I am all about getting a fair deal for my guys, but it is also about being fair to the studio as well. The fee's are OK and it is nice to get paid (Duh) But if an agent gets a model a bad deal, the the trickle down effect is bad. #1 ,I wont get work from that studio and, #2 the model wont do things with my company any more. My guys can be contacted directly or through me. Doesnt matter, I am just concerned with getting them work, work that is honest and at a fair price. The majority of my guys, when contacted outside of me, will tell the studio to call me anyway, it makes life much easier all around for them and you. It is the same with several other "agencies" I also take the brunt of issues when something goes wrong (on both sides)....as I said before..alot of babysitting, and mopst of you guys know me....mama has big shoulders for the kids to cry on. When you get to know your models, and see what they are good at and what they are bad at, you can save the studio alot of time by advising, ""Yes"" to this one, or ""No"" thats a bad choice....Again, all about working together.......Anything else?..? Before someone hits it, Yes there are fee's involved, But thats between the model and myself. Nothing that is unfair, but I am still running a business.

Aside from being someone reputable to deal with, Howard is a helluva nice guy. I had the pleasure of finally meeting him face to face at the Gay Phoenix Forum. He is smart, funny and plays well with others.


Geeze. I feel like I'm writing a job recommendation or signing a high school yearbook. LOL!!!

Great to hear, Howard.

Earlier in this thread I referenced the idea of starting an unbiased website with information on adult (and commercial) modeling, what to expect, etc. We're actually doing that, it's going to be up probably in a week or so, and as the information gets written, I'll post here for comments/criticisms/suggestions.

I'm already formulating a list of topics, questions, etc but if anyone has any suggestions as far as topics, FAQ questions, etc., I'd love to have them.

The site won't have any advertising at the outset, the idea is just information without people thinking they're being suckered into a particular service, site, studio or whatever. Perhaps later on there will be links to places where one can apply to model.

Maybe write a "Code of Conduct" and allow links to employers who adhere to that code.

Treat models with dignity and respect. They are your lifeblood.

Do not have sex with models. Even if they want to. The power differences involved make it impossible to have completely non-coercive sex

Explain the risks involved. If barebacking is involved, explain those risks.

Explain that the model ALWAYS has the right to terminate a session [but does not have the right to be paid if sessions are not completed]

Explain that the model has the right to know what the scene or modeling job involves, and that only if the model voluntarily enters into the agreement will the model get the job

Explain that the images will be out there forever. Once the model has completed the job, the images belong to the producer and there is no taking them back.

Explain that the model must be sober and free of mind-altering substances in order to perform and be paid.

How about that for a start?

Who was it that was working on best practices? FSC?

I think the code of conduct is a great idea. Of course, getting studios to agree on what it should contain is something different entirely. But perhaps we'll toss out some ideas (starting with Chad's list) and seek some input and *try* to come up with some agreeement on the ones we can and punt on the ones there's disagreement on.

Nevermind. Found it and some other resources as well.

I have a correction to make: Red Temple was not the guy in Vegas trying to send models my way with no head-shots. The name of the company that DID was similar in name, logo design and motive so I easily confused the two.

My apologies.

R.

2 pages of Misreads on a thread.....and you say I am sorry.

OK who is in San Doego....someone go over and beat him.........or slap him....or cover that turkey in his own giblets.

hehehe
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.................

now..as my motto says..
Relax,..it's just porn..."

I have just been contacted by the guy from Red Temple, and the HUGE email that he sent clears up a few things...it is all up to him now to clear his name. I think before we judge on what we hear...we all need to investigate for ourselves...this is not me telling the world to work with him or anyone else but that company......fab...something.....hahahah...but a little competition is always good, but ONLY when he does it right and faur,

Happy Turkeys All.

H