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I really had no idea this foreskin thing was gonna be such a big deal !!!
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It does seem tho that most guys who dont have it that are foreskin lovers really have a fetish for it !!!
I find it most interesting that this mutilation was ever dreamed up in the first place - why anyone would want to hurt an innocent baby is just beyond me - Some do it in the name of religion some did it in the name of cleanliness - and I think a lot of peope just dont know why it is or is not done So many str8 men are quite uncomfortable discussing it even -
Amazing one of those things that makes u go HMMMMMM! :wacko:
Here in Canada leaving babies intact is on the rise. A few years back, in an effort to cut the health care budget many provincial governments stopped covering circumcism. So if you want you baby boy circumcised, you had to pay an extra $107. A lot of people have decided it wasn't worth the money.
(Most of our health care is still free, however slowly but surely, items are being added to the list of things for which a fee is charged, eye examines was the most recent.)
Cheers
Dzinerbear
Same here in Australia ... seems the free healthcare systems are hitting a snag. The wait for surgery and specialists is months and months out here. But if you pay cash, like I have to, you get it right away. Doesn't seem fair.Quote:
Originally posted by Dzinerbear
(Most of our health care is still free, however slowly but surely, items are being added to the list of things for which a fee is charged, eye examines was the most recent.)
I don't think we've hit this kind of thing in Canada, perhaps I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure that you can't jump the line by paying – if you need a hip replacement, you join the queue and wait your turn. I think there probably are some provisions to push more serious cases ahead, but it doesn't involve money.Quote:
Originally posted by Squirt
Same here in Australia ... seems the free healthcare systems are hitting a snag. The wait for surgery and specialists is months and months out here. But if you pay cash, like I have to, you get it right away. Doesn't seem fair.
What is happening here is that an increasinly number of previously free services are no longer free. For instance, because I'm over 40, my doctor wanted me to have a prostate blood screening test, it costs $37. As I mentioned, eye examine are now no longer covered. I remember hearing a couple of years back that the treatment of warts on your hands and feet was no longer covered unless you're immune compromised.
It's all a big hassle if you ask me. Seems to me if corporations paid taxes like everyone else, governments wouldn't have such a hard time maintaining their health care budgets.
Cheers
Dzinerbear
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head there mate.Quote:
Originally posted by Dzinerbear
Seems to me if corporations paid taxes like everyone else, governments wouldn't have such a hard time maintaining their health care budgets.
at about 12 years old most schools start introducing some kind of basic sex ed or 'whats happening to my body' programs. playgroups have programs for mothers from the time the child is very young which teach them and their child different activities.
there should be a book issued in school called 'looking after your uncircumcised penis' LOL!!!!
i have been hunting through search results since seeing this thread, and while there are a lot of products there do not seem to be any affiliate programs ...
what products do you think would make up this niche?
the book with instructions
the 'device' (some are wooden, some plastic, some metal)
is there more to it that i'm missing?
Why is it the aussies and canadians feel that a paid healthcare system is better? I work really hard to pay for things I need and want in life and I dont do without any of them - if I want something I go buy it - if I need something it is within my reach !
Why >? Because I earn it - sometimes that means I have to slave a little harder to make that money for whatever it is I want or need- but ya know I get really PISSED when people finger point at americans about how fat and lazy and evil we are - when canadians and aussies are whining about how poor their handouts are - this is not fictional its factual -
Why dont you pay for a health insurance plan that will care for your NEEDS and see you into the future - your gov. clearly isnt taking proper care of you = as you expect them to do!!!!
I am NOT saying that all canadians whine or all aussies whine about the healthcare but I tell u I sure hear about more than my share of canadians who have had sloppy healthcare and dont have money to get surgery or something they NEED!!! Why do you think that is? Well it sure is NOT the lazy american neighbor - hes working to pay for his health care needs!!
I just know 10 people are gonna curse me for this post and thats fine - but thats how I feel -! Stop whining about it and do something about it - if you dont have money GET SOME - if you cant then get educated the money will come to you !!!
The rest will fall in line later.
Because we don't believe that health care should be a privilege of those who are lucky enough to have or can afford a private insurance plan. We believe that health care is a right for all Canadians regardless of where they live, how much they earn, or indeed whether they're working at all.Quote:
Originally posted by procam
Why is it the aussies and canadians feel that a paid healthcare system is better?
Because we believe that every Canadian has the right to walk into any hospital anywhere in the country and be treated. It's that simple. It's one of the things that makes Canadians and Americans distinct, please read distinct as different, not better.
And in case you don't think we pay for it, we do. We pay for it through higher income taxes. We also pay for it through higher sin taxes, that is taxes on gasoline, cigarettes, and booze.
Many Canadians who are working also get supplementary health care benefits through their employers private insurance plans. So we'll get additional things covered like prescriptions, eye glasses, dental, chiropratic services, massage ... it all depends on the plan your employer has negotiated and pays for.
The basic problem with the American system as I see it is this. You guys want to walk into a Wal*mart and pay $49 for a DVD player, in order to give you a DVD player for that price, Wal*Mart needs to pay its employees at a rate that doesn't allow them to easily buy private medical insurance. Selling you a DVD player for $49 also means that it has to be made in China where employees are not earning $15-25 an hour union wages. And it probably also means that Wal*Mart cannot afford to provide its employees with medical benefits without dipping deeply into the share holders pockets.
Americans would also be rioting in the streets if their governments taxed gasoline, booze and cigarettes the way ours do in Canada. And most politicians just aren't willing to stick their necks on that line.
Likewise, Canadians would be rioting in the street (actually we'd probably be politely walking down the side of the road, we're freaks that way) if they walked into a hospital and were refused treatment because they didn't have private medical insurance.
The basic difference is that Canada is more socialist than the U.S., America is more capitalist. And if you think Canadians are way out there, take a look at Sweden: a Canadian would think they'd died and gone to heaven with the kinds of benefits they have there, something like six-month paid maternity leave for both parents, I believe. But they also pay a larger percentage in taxes.
Cheers
Dzinerbear
Well - I can relate to what you are saying with an exception or two -
1. Wal-Mart employees are not that grossly paid, In fact quite the opposite I have some friends that work for Wal-Mart and have for years now - their wages are good enough to afford them some finer things in life and health insurance is one of them.
That whole Wal-Mart stigma - is a largely debated issue - and I will say this Wal-Mart is WAY to big for its britches I agree with this !
Wal-Mart has dominated the world as the largest retailer and that needs to change they have now bankrupt several companies by forcing them to lower the product pricing to Wal-Mart OR ELSE! and that or else bankrupt one American icon vlassic pickles - all over some gallon jars of pickles Wal-Mart wanted for a low price vlassic simply could not continue to offer.
Someone needs to take Wal-Mart down a few notches - but I just don't see it happening - in fact now those dirty priks at wallyworld have opened guess what - Wal-Mart neighborhood grocery store to compete directly with the other area grocers - while the low prices are nice - I cant help but think what its doing to the bottom line at 3 of my favorite grocery stores.
On that note we got kinda sidetracked ==
Back to healthcare = Now you say that you pay for healthcare thru higher taxes - and various other ways - but what you fail to address is Joe down the road whos working his ass off to make 100k a year and has a big house and all the finer things - Joe has never been sick a day in his life nor has his wife and kids - healthy Canadian family ! Now Joe - His wife and Kids pay these increased taxes so they can reap what benefit from it ? None whatsoever -
They are paying for healthcare for the neighbor up the road that has been silly gone out and had unprotected sex and now needs thousands of dollars a month in medications to prolong his life a few years.
That is NOT FAIR to Joe and His wife! Not fair at ALL!
This is the problem with your social medical system and it is also one of the reasons the Canadian healthcare system is in such a state of distress - While it may in theory have been a good idea its engineered totally wrong - and this is why the US has NOT adapted to such a program because Canada has admittedly made mistakes with their system and acknowledged that it is FLAWED !
Not just the example above but there are many other flaws as well, for example organ donation - well now lets have a look shall we - The Gov pays for your medical needs all your life - when you croak now doesn't the gov have a vested financial interest in your lil body there ? They certainly do - and it has been a topic of recent debate in the Canadian legislature {I saw this on bbc news}l they should be able to obtain those organs against the persons will - to benefit a living person in the name of socialist medicine- I am not only furious that any gov could possibly think of such an action - I am even more disturbed that a human being actually thought it up.
Rob the organs from the dead - we own them anyways - see where does it end !
I say if Canada wants to convince Americans to do this - retool your own system so it works properly and doesn't hurt the quality of care your citizens need, and you will have the attention of the entire United States to see how you accomplished such a great thing. You would further be the shining star of North America for having pulled it off . But is it there yet ? No way not even close - !
Using that analogy, what happens if, nobody pays taxes towards healthcare and Joe and his wife get taken ill? Can they afford to pay their medical bills even though they make $100k a year?Quote:
Originally posted by procam
They are paying for healthcare for the neighbor up the road that has been silly gone out and had unprotected sex and now needs thousands of dollars a month in medications to prolong his life a few years.
That is NOT FAIR to Joe and His wife! Not fair at ALL!
I would much rather have to pay for something and NOT need it, than not to pay for something like healthcare and NEED it.
Regards,
Lee
Oh i should also point out that for the first 22 years of my life i lived in the UK so can see the arguments from both side but, despite having free healthcare in the UK my family and i still choose to go with a private healthcare package.
Now im living over here i have no option but to go with a private healthcare plan. However, the plans in the US are less superior than the private healthcare plans are in the UK and cost almost double too LOL
Regards,
Lee
Well if this were taken care of years ago that would not be an issue but this not only affects US healthcare costs it is driving up canadian healthcare costs as well
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20...5846-6092r.htm
Absolutely everyone needs healthcare at some time in their life. Whether it's getting a flu shot, have a wart blasted off their foot, giving birth to a baby, or having chemotherapy. Everyone.
Under your funding system, I shouldn't have to pay to upkeep roads and highways because I don't drive. I also shouldn't fund education through my property taxes because I have no children. And we could carry this further, I could choose to opt out of my health care dollars helping those who have been shot because I don't believe guns should be in the hands of private citizens. So if they hurt themselves, let them pay for it themselves.
Most Canadians don't mind paying to fund the health care system because we just don't know what hand of cards we've been dealt until the doctor says, "You've got cancer." And in that case, we want the health care system to be there for us. We don't look at it as something that was unfairly charged for and we didn't get our fair share.
Would you like it is a doctor said to you: "Well you've got this tumour, unfortunately, we can't take it out because you and your wife have already used up too much of your share of health care funding." Of course not, it's insanity.
Dzinerbear