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i'm confused that someone who says he is a straight man's nickname is "thetwink" *LOL*
be that as it may, do you think most women like being called bitch, ho, slut, and so on? most surely don't, but those words sell BIGTIME to the overall straight male audience.
hehehe, my normal nick was already taken when I registered here... turbo. So, I just used the name of my main tgp. *shrugs*
In general, I know that women don't like being called those things, and I personally won't use them in my text on straight sites. The closest that I'll come is using 'acting slutty'... never bitch, never ho.
Though I'm not a native speaker, I basically agree with Jasun. (Btw. great mugshot Jasun! :)
"Married" or "Single" reminds one too much of a guy's current status. It's not a turn on at all. At least not on a gay site.
"Straight" "Str8" and similar things are as sexy as it gets, but when comes to think of it, they are mostly neutral.
"Heterosexual", just like "homosexual", is taken from psychiatric terminology... doesn't do much for me on a porn site.
"Breeder" ... I have to admit it does turn me on. It suggests those very qualities of a straight guy that I'm seeking when I'm not after gay guys - i.e. his intention to go and fuck girls. It doesn't imply his marital status or how medicical profession is inclined to call him.
I guess "breeder" might be a bit offensive to straight guys (implying that their main purpose is to fertilize women - as far as sexual function is concerned)... but that's why I think it would work well on a porn site. By the same token "gay" might be understood as a person whose sole purpose is to act sexually in a funny way (euphemism for "queer" or "unproductive"?)
But oh well, that's just me. I'll say again that English isn't my first language so don't take all this for granted :)
hey, Ben - what you say makes perfect sense to me. i guess i missed this aspect, possibly because my straight guy sites are solo. i'll definitely have to incorporate breeder into the large text on a gallery and see if it sends good traffic.
Oh like when straight people say "That's so Gay" then laugh and say "Eeew" "yuck" "gross" :high:Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
breeder is very offensive, and most of the people i know who use it mean it in a very offensive way - scornful, derisive.
Hee hee.. yeah.. I was cleaning out my desk today, and I found that.. it was my first motorcycle license picture from years ago.. I think I was 21.Quote:
Originally posted by Ben
(Btw. great mugshot Jasun! :)
I look nothing like that at all anymore.
OK..Thetwink, I'd never refer to a straight friend in friendly conversation as a "Breeder", and yes, it's meant, in those circles, as a slur.. a put down.. it's the gay men's answer to being called a "Cock Sucker".
However, I've been called, while having sex, a "Cock Sucker" by straight and gay men alike..and I shoot back that they're "breeder Trash"... it's what we call "dirty talk"... and it's a HUGE turn on to a lot of us.. ask my BF about that.
It's not anywhere near the level of calling someone a "Whore" or a "Bitch slut" (in my own warped little mind anyway) but if you don't wanna use it, don't use it.
I generally don't use it, because I don't tend to promote the more rough, raunchy, dirty sites that would call for it.
interesting pic, jasun ;-)
whore, slut and breeder are all insulting terms relating to sexual practices. i can't see much difference between 'em except that i notice that usually straight men don't get insulted regarding their sexuality... when a straight man is insulted by another straight man, the insult usually indicates that the straight man is gay.
so breeder does stand alone in that way ;-)
when i hooked up with arie, an acquaintance of mine, a very catty guy, said "oh, so now you're a breeder?" i've always been a little ashamed of my straight side, and it felt like one of the worst things anyone ever said to me.
Oh, totally. and yeah, if a straight guy called me a "Cock Sucker" and we weren't having sex, I'd cork him... talking durring sex is totally different.. Getting called names like that and say... "Pig" or "Boy"... that's kinda hot. And when we're selling memberships, we generally talk like we're having sex with the potential customer.Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
when i hooked up with arie, an acquaintance of mine, a very catty guy, said "oh, so now you're a breeder?" i've always been a little ashamed of my straight side, and it felt like one of the worst things anyone ever said to me.
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Originally posted by Jasun
And when we're selling memberships, we generally talk like we're having sex with the potential customer.
hmm, this actually makes good sense, and makes me think of the word in a different light.
Now I have called some of my straight friends 'breeder boy, But they're also allowed to call me cupcake too...though most of them don't. :)
That's ok Joe, you'll always be our "cupcake" ;)
You know, I was just talking with Don about how I need to learn to stfu and edit the size of my wordy posts, so just let me say to Jasun:
Thanks for articulating my arguments!
and to theTwink re: "Sometimes, I really do feel discrimination for being straight from gay men."
I'm certainly not excusing discrimination in any form, but please tell me you understand the source of that attitude. Expect sympathy here for discrimination based on your sexual orientation, but not pity.
Overall, if you're worried about who you might offend, I would recommend that you not promote porn at all. We are in business, and make damn good money, from finding new and creative ways to offend. Peddling flesh is exciting and profitable largely becuase it IS "taboo" and offensive to one or several groups.
Um... wow! I don't want to start an argument here, but straight white men (I'm assuming that you are white) really shouldn't make comments like that. Prejudice and discrimination can only come from those with power over others. If you believe that any gay person can have power over a straight person, just review all of the recent legislation that has been passed that restrict the rights of gay citizens... then tell me who has the power!Quote:
Originally posted by thetwink
Sometimes, I really do feel discrimination for being straight from gay men.
As for the term 'breeder', it can also refer to the top in a bareback scene... and that is not considered a derogatory word at all.
Yes it's perfectly normal. Remember, you are marketing to the Gay surfers so what a straight man might find offensive really doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally posted by Ben
So I'm wondering whether the word "breeder" is an offensive or perfectly normal term for a heterosexual man?
Even if breeder was offensive, the straight community doesn't edit their language for the Gay community so the least we can do is return the favor.
The term "That's so Gay" is accepted in the straight community, and the term breeder is accepted in the Gay community. :high:
I was not even looking for sympathy, let alone pity. I was simply making a statement.Quote:
Originally posted by Jason
Expect sympathy here for discrimination based on your sexual orientation, but not pity.
yeah, I didn't get that you were looking for sympathy at all.Quote:
Originally posted by thetwink
I was not even looking for sympathy, let alone pity. I was simply making a statement.
Truth be known, Xstr8t guy is right, you can't be discriminated against if you have all the power, but here, gay men and women have all the power..
I hope we haven't made you feel like that here..