Fetish sites seem underdeveloped.

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Originally Posted by Huskyhunks

For my situation, I think I will wait until the outcome of the Extreme Associates case. If they can't pin them down, they can't prosecute anyone. If the Attorney General wins, then they are test case for the rest of us.

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Actually, strictly speaking the EA case doesnt really have that much of a bearing on 'fetish' sites of the type we are discussing here, did you actually see the stuff that EA published? It was a little more than your run of the mill BDSM content.. Actually who am i kidding, it was a LOT more than your run of the mill BDSM content.

The same can be said for the Sweet Erotica case a year or two back, everyone said that if they win / lose it would have a knock-on effect in the industry overall and, to date, i havent seen anything happen because of their win.

These types of 'obscenity' case imho are more about setting the boundaries of 'obscenity' in the porn industry rather than having them as 'ammo' for further prosecutions although, admittedly, im sure that is factored into it also. But, with that said, that sadomasicistic content that both of these producers made, were made purely to push the boundaries in online obscenity and whilst i am one of the first to agree that different people have different tastes in online erotica, you DO have to draw the line *somewhere* id rather not have to see a site full of women having their clits pierced by 10 inche hypodermic needles with blood getting everywhere, the same as i would rather not see sites full of scat content or even something as relatively softcore as those 'fake' *********** sites where the models are sat on horses or cows, or dogs, we know what the site is alluding to and more importantly who it caters to.

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by Lee

I recently heard a rumor we're going to be seeing a new sponsor arriving that pushes all the under-developed niches launching :)

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I certainly hope so! :francais:

I think you'll be finding a lot more fetish sites and content now that people's sexuality is being discussed a lot more openly thanks to the internet. I was talking to a friend of mine the other day who is a diaperboy. He was saying that there is a vast difference in the guys who were into it years ago, who used to hide it from everyone and really keep to themselves, and the younger guys today, some of whom live with thier parents and have rooms decorated like playpens or who wear thier diapers out in the open when they go out to the bars.

Take a look at popular media. You'll see references to leather and bdsm in a lot of mainstream tv shows. The news stories are more slice-of-life about people involved in various fetishes rather than the shocking expose style reporting we used to see. There are many references to bdsm in the series Buffy The Vampire Slayer, there was a report on Furries in Vanity Fair and on MTV. The sexual climate is changing.

Now, the downside. In order to properly shoot fetish content (and to develope a good fetish website) the producer or web designer must get to know the subject matter. This takes time and dedication. It's much easier to do a twink shoot or a hunky guy site than to concentrate on the psychology of what makes human puppy play hot, or deciding wether to dress a model in a full rubber catsuit or pink latex gloves and fishing waders. You have to know your audience.

I think the sites that do well are the shareweb sites, that get the members to contribute a lot of the content. The sites are amazing yet they do not have the marketing or the amount of content that the big guys have to make the sites really push the traffic through the roof. I think by taking a look at the way those sites are run and then building on that concept, creating a whole user environment where you really let your member feel like they are part of something, yet you provide top-quality content in addition to the user content and message boards and all that, they you can really work it into a huge site.

Just my two cents. :)

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Originally Posted by SuperDad

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Good luck with that one :eek:

Thats a lawsuit waiting to happen imho.

Regards,

Lee

I sure pray for the lawsuit. The publicity will be awesome.

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Originally Posted by SuperDad

I sure pray for the lawsuit. The publicity will be awesome.

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LOL

Whatever.

Regards,

Lee

Actually, when I did it with gayorbitz.com, they just bought me out.

Wait, wait, wait a second. Militarymansex.com has a guy with shaved armpits on the front. I'm sorry, but military guys don't shave their armpits. This is exactly what I am talking about when webmasters don't understand what it takes to connect with their fetish.

Actually, most of our models come from Camp Pendleton marine base and the SD naval base.

Certain special ops teams do shave armpits and other parts of the anatomy for assignments that require it. We learned about it because some of the marines who model for us are, in fact, shaved.

The webmaster for the site is an ex-marine.

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Originally Posted by Huskyhunks

Why aren't there many fetish sites with large affiliate programs and original content, videos, etc ? Do you think the government of the u.s. has scared off webmasters. I know that there are successful fetish sites, but nothing really along the lines of Pridebucks, Randy Blue and the other "big boys". It would seem to me that this would be a great area for someone with enough capital or at least great original content to really sell some serious memberships.

Underwear, jockstraps, armpits, clothes on fucking, bruiser (bouncer types), even the bear/cub area seem to be underdeveloped in the original content area.

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Huskyhunks...

I for one have tried to contact different fetish site owners/managers in an effort to distribute their product lines. Unfortunately, I have "never" got a reply/response from any of the them. Maybe I'm contacting the wrong people? But it seems as if they want to keep their stuff to themselves.

PapaBear

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Papabear, I dare say there is anyone to go to for content. I've seen not so great designed personal websites with phenominal content which I would love to use but I've never gotten a response back from them about their images or video... I don't blame them. I think adult webmasters aren't perceived as the most ethical bunch so the average joe fetish is keeping his distance.

Superdad, if it sells, then that's a good thing. More power to you !

Lee, I'm very aware of what Extreme Associates is about. It's not my thing, but I'm also not naive. Extreme Associates did not really create the market for this. In every society, there exist persons that find these types of things erotic. They are walking around the streets, from every walk of life. Shutting down the website will do no good. If anything, hopefully having this website online stops people from acting on their impulses instead of feeding them. As far as scat goes, I'd love to see more sites. Needles, not my thing. But I just change the channel like I do on the tv if it's not for me.

DonMike, fetish is definitely going mainstream on us, ok, maybe not that far but definitely out of the closet. Too bad webmasters don't seem to be following suit. I know that I have no right to point a finger because I'm capable of producing this type of content myself and I may do that but for now I'm just a bunch of hot air :chicken:

Neilxod, could there possibly be fetish folks out there that are finding what they need ? I doubt it. First, a market has yet to be created on the webmaster end. That hasn't happened. No market=no interest. Fetish guys used to play online alot. Yahoo, msn groups, bulletin boards, etc. then one day they are all gone. What's left is ripped, young, thin, glossy billboards walking around shaking their asses online. Well that's fine, but doesn't do a thing for hardcore fetish lovers. They are back in their beds, slings, bars, alleys, doing hookups, baths, bookstores, doing their thing. Maybe one day there will be a reason for these guys to check out what's online but judging from things, it's getting more vanilla by the day out there.