My site is being shut down.

Thanks everyone, I'm just getting out.

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Outboy lied about the emails and here are the email headers to prove that: :goofy:

The email we received from you (19 May):
hey man, my software stopped working and my users are pissed. My site address is outboy.com. Can you please tell me how to fix this asap.
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Delivery-date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:54:47 -0400
Received: from [205.188.157.35] (port=64641 helo=imo-d03.mx.aol.com)
        by leased.dnsbox10.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50)
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        for ntm@datetopia.com; Thu, 19 May 2005 00:54:43 -0400
Received: from InTristin@aol.com
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        Thu, 19 May 2005 00:54:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: InTristin@aol.com
Message-ID: <147.45a7ee67.2fbd7614@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:54:44 EDT
Subject: My site locked up, need help..
To: ntm@datetopia.com

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Then we requested an alternative email address from you, because aol has some problems receiving script attachements. Here is your reply (20 May):

Please send to webmaster@outboy.com , thanks

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Received: from 205.188.144.207 (EHLO imo-d21.mx.aol.com) (205.188.144.207)
by mta306.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 20 May 2005 06:17:41 -0700
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From: InTristin@aol.com
Message-ID:
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:17:37 EDT
Subject: Re: My site locked up, need help..
To: projectsagent@yahoo.it

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We delivered the latest package (20 May), the next day after your original request and the thank you message followed.
thanks

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Received: from 205.188.157.36  (EHLO imo-d04.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.36)
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Received: from InTristin@aol.com
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        for ; Fri, 20 May 2005 11:23:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: InTristin@aol.com
Message-ID: <1f9.a2a9ef0.2fbf5af9@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:23:37 EDT
Subject: Re: My site locked up, need help..
To: projectsagent@yahoo.it

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So after 3 days of waiting for this guy to get back to me while my users went without a working site, he sends me the new License.

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3 days after 19 May is 22 May, yesterday, 2 days after this topic you posted - the package was sent the next day, on 20 May, not after 3 days.

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This product I found out goes under different names including Match Agency, Dating Agent, and Datetopia.

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I've already shown in my previous reply that these 3 are not the same product as you state. Datetopia is the website that provides these products ( http://www.datetopia.com ) and Dating Agent ( http://www.datingagent.biz ) & Match Agency ( http://www.matchagency.biz ) are 2 different products - can be viewed at the links provided. Another false statement.

We have hundreds of customers and we are aware that we can't please everybody. Happy customers have no issues to post on the forums.

The script codes are protected and all customers know that from the beginning. The upgrade policy is also clearly written in the EULA customers accept on purchase.

DAP had a dangerous vulnerability that permited users to run malicious code on certain server configurations - that was fixed with the upgrade and also some other reported issues.

Not all files are protected. The layout files (design & links to website content), the homepage file (content), settings files, style files and payment processing files are not encoded - webmasters can edit and keep their source code.

Ok I sent the email late Wednesday night, Thursday morning, whatever. I will admit you got back to me faster than you normally do. However it's not really the issue now is it.

The issue is your selling buggy software and then forces your users to upgrade to new software and pay more money which is nothing more than a bug fix with new bugs.

Then you force users to install new software every year to update a licence that forces them to have to rebuild the entire site from scratch. Oh wait, you can save the headers, big deal. I would rather loose the headers than be forced to start all over again fixing your bugs.

You want some advice man? Fix the bugs in ALL your software packages before you sell them. And find a better way of updating a licence. How can you expect me or anyone else to have to rebuild and debug each and every time??

People are not stupid, they can read your forums and read the reviews you got on Hot scripts and figure out your software is a worthless piece of buggy crap. They don't need me for that. You dug your hole man, live with it.
And happy coustermers don't post on your forums? What about your live site links, They are all dead, broken, or locked up? So who are these happy people?

Hey Tristin,

We've talked before, I think you were using our chat rooms from menchats.com... I'm sorry to hear about your problems. We run a 100% free personals site too, at gaymeeting.com and are having some of the exact same problems. The person who made the script promised errors would be fixed and it is still so buggy! I was able to get some relief from my credit card company and I'm still trying to find a suitable replacement... How do these other personals sites run???

I guess running a personals site with no interest in making a fortune and only bringing people together hurts us both? :(

As i am not a programmer or even close to one I do not pretend to understand everything that you have said about the issues with the software. But I do however understand what its like to work very hard on something as you have done and to have it just fade away due to things outside of your control.

I would like to send my regards and to remind you anger is only temporary but true creativity and passion are forever. Hold on keep your chin up and know this to shall pass. I know its a few common quotes but I felt a kind word or two no matter the source is most often a good thing in times like this.

Kind Regards,

Mike
Webmaster FraternityGuys.com

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That sucks big time.

Can anybody recommend a good script from a reliable company to run and manage multiple dating sites?

I think the rule of thumb is you get what you pay for. This guy who use to run a datetopia site contacted me and recomended I try WeBDate. He said and I quote.....

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My honest suggestion would be to scrap DateTopia and migrate to WebDate by Webscribble. We took Dating Agent Pro to it's fullest potential and it failed to handle the amounts of business we do, being traffic / upgradability.

The Dating Agent source is so encrypted so that we couldn't really write new features into it and the DB constantly was erroring out and corrupting on itself so we just moved to WebDate.

WebDate is far more powerful and offers an entirely new stable database and management interface.

http://www.webscribble.com.

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I have never used or looked at this software cause i just can't afford to spend any more money on OutBoy. But i trust the guy who sent me that email so I thought I would share. And the problems he was having was some of the same ones my site had for the most part.

Another way to go is to pay a good web designer like Bionic Pixels or one of the others list on these forums.

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Originally Posted by outboy

Well I have been running a free online gay personals site for a while. But I am shutting it down. Now I'm not shuting it down becuase I can't afford it. It was very popular from the start and grew fast. Problem is the software I was used. I purchased the dating script from datetopia.com. I purchased this software about a year ago. Support was very bad, took days to respond. First off the software comes with a ton of bugs. The software itself is encrypted which makes it nearly impossible to fix the bugs or add new features. Basically you have to code around the bugs and some features are not useable.

The owner of this product says bugs will be fixed in the next release which you have to pay for. And what do you get but new bugs. It took me over six months to fix everything, get the layout just right, and add new features of my own. Then just 2 days ago my software completely locked up. Warning messages appeared all over my site saying "License expired, Please contact for a new License". I'm like WTF?? So after 3 days of waiting for this guy to get back to me while my users went without a working site, he sends me the new License.

The new License turns out to be the entire package encrypted. So in order to upgrade the License and get the site working I have to replace all the site files with old buggy encrypted software. Meaning all the bug fixes and changes I have made over the last 12 months would be lost and have to be coded back in line by line which would take me another 6 months. I just don't have the time or energy to start all over. :cry:

DO NOT buy this software. YOU WILL regret it for the rest of your life. Just wanted to share that with you guys. This product I found out goes under different names including Match Agency, Dating Agent, and Datetopia. Avoid at all costs.

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While I'm not sure of the "license" you originally obtained the software with, there is an old computer law about putting "time Bombs" in software that might be worth looking into.....you could squeeze him to remove the time bomb.
But again, it's a stretch....

sorry to hear this i just joined this forum, and never had much of a chance to use it yet, let me know if you reopen it again, or something else that comes close to it, it really was good stuff on here from what i had read so far, :cry:

I know of someone using web scribble's script and is having problems too... He said the quick search has never worked correctly and that the script maker doesn't fix it... I'm not sure what other problems he's had, but he didn't recommend using it...

ah ok, well like I said I never used it. But I'm sure it's better than DateTopia. Well hell, anything is better than that crap.

And dean79, OutBoy.com is back up and running on the buggy script. It's not as good as it once one cause all the mods I made over the last year are gone. I fixed some of the bugs so it's running ok. But it's currently for sale on EBay, the action ends in like 10 hours and then the site will be out of my control. I have no idea what the winning bidder plans to do with it. A few of the bidders have contacted me and said they plan to run it as a free site like it is now and use it to exclusively promote their pay porn sites. Which it's perfect for since it creates a captive audience. I think it would be a bad idea to try and convert it to a pay site, but it's up to the winner bidder what is done with it.

I'm glad you found an use for the FREE upgrade package we sent you.

Maybe you can also sell the website here :

Dating Webmaster Forum

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Originally Posted by Datetopia.com

I'm glad you found an use for the FREE upgrade package we sent you.

Maybe you can also sell the website here :

Dating Webmaster Forum

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Don't you mean the FREE downgrade package you sent me? Since it destroyed the site. Just like it has destroyed every other site useing your script? Nice dating forums you have there. Funny how none of them are using your script. You must be braindead man, if you think your selling a good product. and if you think anyone on these forums are going buy your buggy script your smoken crack.

These scripts may not be perfect but they get better and better in time because of continuous development. Dating Agent PRO is a very old package. Currently we sell products that are a lot better : http://www.matchagency.biz for example.

You can't please everybody all the time. A customer for example used Dating Agent PRO for a long time, then moved to a more advanced script provided by another company. He had to move to another script later and probably in the future he will move to other scripts also if he's not happy with the current one.
When starting a website don't expert to find the dream script from the beggining.

sounds like a POS script