I would not touch this site even if he is over 18.
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I would not touch this site even if he is over 18.
Either Patrick passed the word along, CCBill read this thread, or ASACP pulled some strings... because CCBill EU has inactivated payment processing for the site.
Now how long will it be before OrangeBill or one of the shady billers pops up doing payment processing for them?
I just noticed this language on their site...
Currently we do not accept payments for site : mike18.com. This problem should be resolved in the near future. Feel free to check up our other sites :
www.amazingtwinks.com
www.seducedarmyboys.com
www.crazydoctors.com
www.spermcult.com
www.bidoctors.com
www.spankingtwinks.com
Of course, in looking at "amazing twinks.com", their tour offers "only young and fresh teenage boys" and "APPROVED... only young boys inside" on every page, so somebody at CCBill is still asleep at the switch, since I don't think that language is allowed by Visa. At least the guys on that site look like they could plausibly be 18.
I'm no fan of this sort of niche, not only cause I find it totally asexual, but mostly because you never know how old in reality these twinks, boys, etc are, so I rather don't mess with it ...
Didnt OrangeBill get raided recently? (last 12 months) I could have sworn they had a huge problem with the law because of some of the sites they process for.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
Regards,
Lee
That could well be. I just remember them as the shady biller that had an awful lot of sites that looked pretty inappropriate (CP, bestiality, incest, etc.). But now that you mention it, I don't think I've seen their name around much recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
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Originally Posted by boyfunk
Their others sites are taking billing still and guess what... now they offer two sites for the price of one!
http://www.seducedarmyboys.com/join.html
So they are using the processing for their other sites to let people pay for the mike18 site.
Does anyone know if Patric at CCBill knows this? Aren't they still, in essence.. processing for a CP site?
i pm'ed patrick.
You know, as far as CCBill goes im sure they are going to do the right thing both for them, their other clients and, the owner of the site in question.
I dont think i have ever seen any action by CCBill that wasnt in the best interests of everyone involved.
Regards,
Lee
Now they've switched to SegPay. I know that they (SegPay) were a new billing service that had a booth at Internext FL (I spoke with them)... perhaps someone here that has a contact with them could get in touch and let them know.... not exactly great to be a new biller with a reputation for processing for questionable sites.
Chip,
Segpay i *think* is iBill under another company name, not a great reputation at all imho ;)
There was a big fuss a few months ago how both Segpay and iBill had the same managerial staff and physical mailing address LOL
Regards,
Lee
Wow, I had no idea. They acted at Internext as though they were a totally new company, and from their site, they claim to be in the UK... i'll definitely have to check this further, we were thinking about using them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Here ya go...Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=segpay+ibill
Regards,
Lee
Well, apparently SegPay cares more about the money they're getting from Mike18.com than they do about processing for CP.
I emailed them several days ago saying that it seemed to be the consensus here at gww that the models were probably underaged, that the tour violated Visa regs with phrases like "young boys" and that CCBill had ditched them... I got an email back saying that they took CP very seriously and were immediately handing this over to compliance. But it sure looks to me like billing is still up and operational for the site.
I would report it to Visa International, but that would probably end up hurting a lot of other legitimate SegPay customers... I think there are big fines for compliance violations, and even if the guys really are 18, it's still not OK to use the phrases they're using.
Anybody know anyone at SegPay? Or any of the Ibill people that are now at SegPay?
Might take a little bit longer to investigate it and all...Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
How do billing companies fairly handle this sort of thing?
If he was in the US, they could verify his age using even USSearch.com, but what about foreign models?
Could they have somebody take him to a government office on their behalf (at the expense of the producer) and verify his info is legit?
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Gimme a break. As Patti said earlier in the thread, even granting (and it's a BIG "gimme") that the main kid is 18, it's simply beyond all credibility that the photographer for the site just happened on the motherload of 18 year old guys that look 13. Yes, somebody could verify with authorities that the passport is legit, but I think, given that they blurred out the date of issue of the passport, we pretty much already know it's faked.
Go figure if you want something done right and legal you might as well as do it yourself. I have seen alot of straight legal girl sites that look worse than this guy though. I think he is 18 but the id is definitely suspicious.
Mark
how come nobody from bucksfactory replied in this thread ?
Some idiot from bucksfactory started a new spammy thread about mike18 a few days ago. Actually the poster was pretending to be an affiliate but the spam was so transparent, it could have only been someone from bucksfactory. :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by zentz
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Originally Posted by zentz
Is anyone from that company signed up to this board?