you know, there is also a very noticable lack of latin male sites. i only know of one offhand, and it is terrible!
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you know, there is also a very noticable lack of latin male sites. i only know of one offhand, and it is terrible!
I know of a few. Latinboyz.com, latinjocks.com, bilatinmen.com, and there are a couple more that I know of that are coming out soon.
LatinJocks.com has good conversions because of the parties they've been having arround the country for the last year or two. Plus, they have the DVD/Video line coming out soon. (You'd never guess what other companies they own. lol) ;)
But there are only a handful of true latino sites that don't have the same content that everyone else has in their "latino section"
andymike - latinjocks and latinboys are both sub-niches. how about a GOOD latin male site that isn't all twinks or jocks, but many types of latin males?
dawgy, sometimes i get tired of making my own sites. i had to make 5 in the last two weeks to represent niches that either weren't around or weren't well represented. it would be far easier for me to give my ideas to webmasters who might develop sites i can promote.
we are currently shooting exclusive content for two sites, and i KNOW i'm not going to be doing all these niches. i'm spread too thin as it is.
Here is another thought..
What about 'butch' and 'fem' type paysites?
You know, the steeotypical 'gay looking' guys for the fems and the 'rough looking' guys for the butch?
Seems that there wouldnt be a need to shoot exclusive content as you could pretty much just pick and choose fro existing content for these two niches.. that gives me an idea for an article brb hehe.
Regards,
Lee
perpetuating the stereotype? ;)
Haha yep although i figure... its a niche to a point and certainly after looking through soe of the gay personal ads.. guys do tend to specify if they want a straight acting, efeminate guy as a partner.. just a wacked out train of thought anyway lolQuote:
Originally posted by basschick
perpetuating the stereotype? ;)
Regards,
Lee
I know what i haven't seen - or it hasn't registered that I saw it - drag queens.
You know.. im not all hat clued up on drag queens lolQuote:
Originally posted by LdyLnWolf1
I know what i haven't seen - or it hasn't registered that I saw it - drag queens.
All i know is our local gay bar has 'bad drag' shows and well, isnt dressing up in drag more of an entertainent thing than a sexual thing? As i say this is one aspect of the gay lifestyle i really know squatt about lol
Regards,
Lee
I suspect the adult porn idustry has the interest "drag queens" covered under the tranny niche, but I'm not familiar enough with tranny sites/galleries to know.Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
You know.. im not all hat clued up on drag queens lol
All i know is our local gay bar has 'bad drag' shows and well, isnt dressing up in drag more of an entertainent thing than a sexual thing? As i say this is one aspect of the gay lifestyle i really know squatt about lol
Regards,
Lee
Recent research shows that there are most likely two types of transvestites/transsexuals (The Man Who Would Be Queen--The Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism, J. Michael Bailey, Joseph Henry Press). One type shows a lot of feminine characteristics in childhood, and the other type is typically masculine in childhood. The first type is very feminine in adolescence and is attracted to males. These are the drag queens who are fairly convincing at drag shows. The second type is masculine in adolescence and is generally attracted to females sexually. But, this second type likes to dress up in female attire, and finds this sexually arounsing, as in a fetish. These guys usually marry a woman. I suspect it is this second type who is the big market for the tranny sites.
Yeah, so the drag show thing for the "gay" community is entertainment, not really an arousal thing. But, you could certainly work the public drag queen thing into a tranny site.
Off to sleep now ... zzzzzz
Hey Fister!Quote:
Originally posted by Fister
Recent research shows that there are most likely two types of transvestites/transsexuals (The Man Who Would Be Queen--The Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism, J. Michael Bailey, Joseph Henry Press).
I read Mr. Bailey’s work too. And to be honest, it’s not a good source. In fact, his book was removed from the Lambda Literary Foundations list. And the outrage that followed was likened to “Stonewall 2”. Not sure if this is too harsh of a statement, but he’s not a great source to quote.
I like, so many others, wonder if J. Michael Bailey ever went to Greenwich Village on a Thursday night. That’s all you need to do to see that there are three distinctive groups.
Transvestites are straight men who have a fantasy or sexual arousal from wearing women’s clothing.
Transsexuals are people, who from an early age, struggle with gender identification. They live their lives as the opposite sex with the intention of changing their gender at some point.
Drag Queens are gay men who dress as women as performers or exhibitionists. They typically have no intention of changing their gender – if they did they wouldn’t be drag queens anymore.
Personally, I would never mix tranny and drag queen in the same sentence, forget about a site LMAO
Gary-Alan
Now I know we've discussed not really putting links for transexual sites on gay sites- even link lists ... and I understood that tranny and drag queen were 2 different things entirely ... but is there any sexual attraction for the drag queen performer amongst the gay community or no?
I can only go on my personal experience, and the words of some friends (which are similar to my own experience).Quote:
Originally posted by LdyLnWolf1
Now I know we've discussed not really putting links for transexual sites on gay sites- even link lists ... and I understood that tranny and drag queen were 2 different things entirely ... but is there any sexual attraction for the drag queen performer amongst the gay community or no?
Personally, I dated a man who was a drag queen and performer when I was in my mid 20's. I wasn't attracted to his drag persona, I was attracted to the man out of drag. Now don't get me wrong I loved his act - he was fantastic. But it wasn't what made me horny (sorry for the lack of tact there but it's the truth).
I haven't seen a lot of drag queens gone hardcore sites... And when I do, it's like Chi Chi, she's the hostess but isn't in the bed fucking with her models on camera as the star of the site. It's about being a hostess, tour guide, etc.
So.. with that said. Would I link to a drag site? Yes. For entertainment, not to sell sex. Unless it is ChiChi La Rue or a like site ;)
Did that make sense? I'm rambling LOL
My best,
Gary-Alan
Ok Ive said it before and ill say it again. Why are there no decent wrestling sites? Thats a huge niche that I think needs to be filled. Actually real jock sites in general. The Jock sites ive seen look like every other site out there. Same old content.
shelmal, you are SO right about that!
as far as drag queens go, it is only a profession as a rule. most of my friends worked at la cage, and they lived as men outside of work. so as far as their sexuality goes, they are men like other men.
my experience with years of shemale promotion is that you may pick up a few curious surfers, but overall shemale does better sold to either shemale traffic or straight. why would men who prefer men (being gay isn't just a penis fetish) be sexually attracted to someone who is basically a woman?
I second that!Quote:
Originally posted by shelmal
Ok Ive said it before and ill say it again. Why are there no decent wrestling sites? Thats a huge niche that I think needs to be filled. Actually real jock sites in general. The Jock sites ive seen look like every other site out there. Same old content.
I'm not surprised to hear that Mr. Bailey's book was controversial.Quote:
Originally posted by Gary-Alan
I read Mr. Bailey’s work too. And to be honest, it’s not a good source. In fact, his book was removed from the Lambda Literary Foundations list. And the outrage that followed was likened to “Stonewall 2”. Not sure if this is too harsh of a statement, but he’s not a great source to quote.
And that brings me to:Quote:
Would I link to a drag site? Yes. For entertainment, not to sell sex.
A site like boyswithcams ...but with drag queens performing.
Now if you had a site like boyswithcams witha Drag Queen as the HOSTESS... with the right marketing sure.Quote:
Originally posted by LdyLnWolf1
And that brings me to:
A site like boyswithcams ...but with drag queens performing.
With a Drag Queen as a sexual performer in wig and makeup I wouldn't go near it, personally.
Odd fact to add to my last post... Jeremy, my drag queen pal, wouldn't let anyone, not even, me see him in makeup and wig while without clothes. If he was naked, there was no traces of his drag persona. I don't know if this is something that's common in drag circles, but it made an impression on me.
GA
but why would a drag show be adult? the only full stripping shows i've seen were transsexuals. drag shows aren't nude, so they could be entertainment for the masses. although most of the masses don't display that much interest in drag shows.
my friend mitzi from la cage was hostessing a local male strip show. she did a great job, but i felt that having a drag queen hosting it sort of took away from the sexual tension in the room.
there was one drag bar that had a feed for a while, but it went the way of the dodo.
That's the point I'm trying to make, basschick. A performer in Drag as the hostess or Mistress of Ceremonies of a site, that may work - have you ever been to one fo ChiChi's Show during an expo? She doesn't take anything away from the show, actually she instegates a LOT LOLQuote:
Originally posted by basschick
but why would a drag show be adult? the only full stripping shows i've seen were transsexuals. drag shows aren't nude, so they could be entertainment for the masses. although most of the masses don't display that much interest in drag shows.
my friend mitzi from la cage was hostessing a local male strip show. she did a great job, but i felt that having a drag queen hosting it sort of took away from the sexual tension in the room.
there was one drag bar that had a feed for a while, but it went the way of the dodo.
Other than that I don't think it will go over at all.
GA
i saw chichi at the porn awards in like 1991. great show, but didn't make anyone horny, nor was it supposed to. i wasn't trying to steal your point, more to augment it.
btw, i used to hang out in the dressing room at la cage, and i saw all sorts of drag queens in makeup with no clothes, with and without wig. it didn't bother any of the performers - i asked. most of the performers there kept their drag persona for when they had their drag on, but it wasn't an issue. it's just the persona went on with the clothes - the rest of the time, they were men.
When I said perform - i didn't mean sexually.
I didn't think you were stealing my point, bass... I wasn't sure if I was saying it right. You and I are in total agreement.Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i saw chichi at the porn awards in like 1991. great show, but didn't make anyone horny, nor was it supposed to. i wasn't trying to steal your point, more to augment it.
btw, i used to hang out in the dressing room at la cage, and i saw all sorts of drag queens in makeup with no clothes, with and without wig. it didn't bother any of the performers - i asked. most of the performers there kept their drag persona for when they had their drag on, but it wasn't an issue. it's just the persona went on with the clothes - the rest of the time, they were men.
Ok *Whew!*Quote:
Originally posted by LdyLnWolf1
When I said perform - i didn't mean sexually.
;)
GA
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a new uncut site - ROCKIN'! and i'll be trying the solo site, fer sure. i'll have to go find my login info for studmoney now. now where did i put it?
do we get credit from the popups, btw?
I've been watching this thread religiously since it was started... Thanks Lee... my darling! This really helps us with keeping on track with what webmasters are looking for, and doing well with in general. Great thread! Thanks! :bandana:
Basschick..
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Regards,
Lee
Okay this was a great thread full of some even greater ideas so with that in mind...
Bump ;)
Regards,
Lee
Just wanted to bump this topic so everyone could add any more suggestions to it they may have :)
Regards,
Lee
I agree with you. We have been checking into doing a wrestling site. I think wrestling is very erotic and hot. We bought a good domain for it awhile ago so hopefully we can have one soon. :)Quote:
Originally posted by shelmal
Ok Ive said it before and ill say it again. Why are there no decent wrestling sites? Thats a huge niche that I think needs to be filled. Actually real jock sites in general. The Jock sites ive seen look like every other site out there. Same old content.
Mark