Originally Posted by
basschick
marcjacob - ccbill was first registered in 1998, epochsystems in 1997 and i knew people processing with epoch wayyyy back when before ccbill. epoch has also been the main processor for such small unknown programs as topbucks.
and btw, visa doesn't go in to the bank manager with lube - as i understand it, visa is a group of banks working together and making decisions that work for them.