Program Owners - What Methods Of In-House Traffic Generation Are You Using Right Now?

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Originally Posted by Lee

No...

They only offer YOU $35 PPS.

Just like on Condom Cash i only offer revshare.

The people with the traffic (and sales) get paid more, so they keep sending traffic/sales.

Regards,

Lee

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So I guess you could say when programs offer 75$ and 100$ PPS they are just offering the same deal everyone else give the whales to use a gaming term.

If this is true we are really bleeding the industry faster than I thought.

We do about 70% from affiliates. The rest is from our in-house gall submissions and from the gay catagories of our mgp's.

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Originally Posted by maxpower

Not only that, but I am sure people with huge amounts of good traffic are going to want programs that have proven themselves at least too some degree, in the “real” world not just some lap dog for them to play with then they are bored.

The best way I know to prove your program is worth more than a passing listing is to insure even a first time webmaster could convert it. If you really have the numbers why would you want to limit traffic? :jerkoff:

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oh damn, i didnt make my point clear i guess.. ok back into the horse and lets try again..

what i ment is that you buy the traffic at a fixed amount per k and pay no matter how it converts.. getting it to convert is your problem etc.. ofcause this means that you have to trust the people selling you traffic etc as it would be an easy fraud otherwise ...

kind of like buying a banner spot for x amount of money per month, here you are just buying a fixed amount of traffic from any link / banner or popup they have etc...

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Originally Posted by Lee

The people with the traffic dont care about whether a program has 'proven' itself, they care about how much $$$ they are getting paid, period.

If someone offers them $75 per signup, all of their traffic will switch to that sponsor, if someone offers them $100 per signup, the traffic will suddenly switch to that sponsor.

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People with traffic also consider programs that convert well and don't shave, in conjunction with the payout amount.

I know lots of sites with traffic that shy away from programs with high payouts because they know those programs shave :pimp:

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Originally Posted by mickey

oh damn, i didnt make my point clear i guess.. ok back into the horse and lets try again..

what i ment is that you buy the traffic at a fixed amount per k and pay no matter how it converts.. getting it to convert is your problem etc.. ofcause this means that you have to trust the people selling you traffic etc as it would be an easy fraud otherwise ...

kind of like buying a banner spot for x amount of money per month, here you are just buying a fixed amount of traffic from any link / banner or popup they have etc...

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Well their is a problem with that too, where are you going to buy traffic worth a crap? Do you not think the people that have the traffic know what it’s worth already? Why would they sell it to you, so you make cut them out of 60% of the profit or something.

If you find someone with convertible traffic that can give more than single digit return at the best PLEASE let me know. :heart: :heart:

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Originally Posted by Squirt

I know lots of sites with traffic that shy away from programs with high payouts because they know those programs shave :pimp:

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There is a significant difference between 'sites' with traffic and 'people' with traffic though Squirt.

'People with traffic' literally can click a button and millions of hits each and every hour will go to a specific sponsor, they can then click another button and those millions of hits go somewhere else.

'Sites with traffic' can only put up links and divert the traffic that way.

I would agree however thats 'sites with traffic' typically do shy away from programs that shave.

I would also add that 'people with traffic' more often than not, are making more money from simply parking their domains than they would ever make from membership sales.

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by Lee

There is a significant difference between 'sites' with traffic and 'people' with traffic though Squirt.

'People with traffic' literally can click a button and millions of hits each and every hour will go to a specific sponsor, they can then click another button and those millions of hits go somewhere else.

'Sites with traffic' can only put up links and divert the traffic that way.

I would agree however thats 'sites with traffic' typically do shy away from programs that shave.

I would also add that 'people with traffic' more often than not, are making more money from simply parking their domains than they would ever make from membership sales.

Regards,

Lee

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How do they make money parking their domains, if they are not using the traffic to convert into sales of some kind.

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Originally Posted by maxpower

Well their is a problem with that too, where are you going to buy traffic worth a crap? Do you not think the people that have the traffic know what it’s worth already? Why would they sell it to you, so you make cut them out of 60% of the profit or something.

If you find someone with convertible traffic that can give more than single digit return at the best PLEASE let me know. :heart: :heart:

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well it can be done but again you need to trust the guys running the traffic sites... have done it in other niches with good results..

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Originally Posted by mickey

well it can be done but again you need to trust the guys running the traffic sites... have done it in other niches with good results..

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All I can say is GOOD LUCK, think you might find this road harder to go down than you think. If your going to pay for traffic http://hunkhunter.com/ is a good start

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Originally Posted by Lee

There is a significant difference between 'sites' with traffic and 'people' with traffic though Squirt.

'People with traffic' literally can click a button and millions of hits each and every hour will go to a specific sponsor, they can then click another button and those millions of hits go somewhere else.

'Sites with traffic' can only put up links and divert the traffic that way.

I would agree however thats 'sites with traffic' typically do shy away from programs that shave.

I would also add that 'people with traffic' more often than not, are making more money from simply parking their domains than they would ever make from membership sales.

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OMG Lee you are really grasping at straws here

SITES are RUN by PEOPLE :loser:

you are so stubborn and pig headed sometimes princess :shitpoke: :toiletpaper:

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Originally Posted by Squirt

OMG Lee you are really grasping at straws here

SITES are RUN by PEOPLE :loser:

you are so stubborn and pig headed sometimes princess :shitpoke: :toiletpaper:

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Squirt,

Yet again you prove that you dont know anything about the distinguishable differences between 'sites' that have traffic and 'people' that have traffic, 'people' that dont own ANY actual 'sites'.

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by maxpower

All I can say is GOOD LUCK, think you might find this road harder to go down than you think. If your going to pay for traffic http://hunkhunter.com/ is a good start

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see thats what i am talking about.. it can be done and depending on the niche there can be some big gains from it..

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Originally Posted by mickey

see thats what i am talking about.. it can be done and depending on the niche there can be some big gains from it..

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LOL you said that not me man :rain:

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Originally Posted by Lee

Squirt,

Yet again you prove that you dont know anything about the distinguishable differences between 'sites' that have traffic and 'people' that have traffic, 'people' that dont own ANY actual 'sites'.

Regards,

Lee

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Spinning semantics Lee ~ it's ok ~ i still love you :heart:

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Originally Posted by Squirt

Spinning semantics Lee ~ it's ok ~ i still love you :heart:

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How is is 'spinning semantics'?

If the two categories of traffic are completely different from another? LOL

One needs to use text links, banners, and buttons to divert the traffic from their 'site' to a program.

The other needs only a linking code.

Id say those items alone made a significant difference in the traffic sources, not to mention the profitability of the traffic for the owners.

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by Lee

How is is 'spinning semantics'?

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Well sites are run by people, and people have traffic, whether people have traffic via sites or not is irrelivent.. as all traffic is, in the end, managed by people, for profit or exposure. Semantics.

On a side note, anyone with traffic shys away from people/programs that shave. It's just good business.

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Originally Posted by Squirt

Well sites are run by people, and people have traffic, whether people have traffic via sites or not is irrelivent.. as all traffic is, in the end, managed by people, for profit or exposure. Semantics.

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Makes sense, then TGPs, Link Lists, Search Engines, Free Sites, Galleries, AVS Sites, Hubs, Doorway Pages etc are no different than each other, after all its all traffic from sites run by people, makes perfect sense :eek:

Bottom line is, if you cant distinguish between different types of traffic, the dollar value of hits those traffic sources and the worth of those traffic sources in terms of 'man hours' then you really dont know if what you are paying for that traffic is a good deal or not.

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by Lee

Makes sense, then TGPs, Link Lists, Search Engines, Free Sites, Galleries, AVS Sites, Hubs, Doorway Pages etc are no different than each other, after all its all traffic from sites run by people, makes perfect sense :eek:

Bottom line is, if you cant distinguish between different types of traffic, the dollar value of hits those traffic sources and the worth of those traffic sources in terms of 'man hours' then you really dont know if what you are paying for that traffic is a good deal or not.

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Well the jokes on you big boy.. as I've already stated via my previous post in this thread

[QUOTE=Squirt;188673...whether people have traffic via sites or not is irrelivent.. as all traffic is, in the end, managed by people, for profit or exposure....[/QUOTE]

Looks like I've won the pissing contest... now it's time for you to take my piss in your face ~~~ searching for appropriate animated icon ~~~ damn nothing fits the situation.. so just lick my ass :goatse: