Wow..even Rosie Odonell knows 9/11 was an inside job now

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Originally Posted by strictlyb

Not quite... the WTC was attacked by fundamentalist Wahabi Saudis who objected to the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia. Please don't tell me people really swallow that "they're jealous of our freedoms" Bush-crap.

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They aren't jealous. I didn't say that, nor would I ever. They posses a competing view of the world. Perhaps you see them as people acting on their feelings, and I see them as people acting on their ideas?

Two very different approaches. Interesting.

I'll buttress my own point --- the same idea that fueled the 9/11 attack on the United States also fueled the pillorying and intense ridicule of Denmark after one newspaper published an offensive cartoon about their religion.

Our egregious crime to those people is that we are guilty of simply being a Western country.

Steve

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Originally Posted by Richard Craver

well, well, well.

I know that I won't be using gaygravy anytime soon, that's for sure.

:flogging:

I'm going to hijack this threat to talk about the REAL conspiracy

Was the Death Star Attack an Inside Job?

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...and if Princess Leia's parents were dead, wouldn't she be queen? And why did Ben Kanobi tell Luke that his father had been a fighter pilot who had been killed by Vader when, in fact, they were the same person? It make you wonder...


Okay, all kidding aside. I have no comment on the whole conspiracy theory but I find it funny how the biggest piece of advice is to be informed of what's going on around you by using Google. Anyone can write any piece of bullshit and put it up on the internet. Don't believe everything you read. Sure you don't always get the whole story by reading government websites but there's a lot of misinformation out there. Take what you read, and process it. Think about it. Cross reference it. And finally, draw your own conclusions. But don't just read something off a website and declare it as truth.

Well I guess GayGravy is saying just open your eyes to the facts.

And what couldn't be more clear that a picture. Here's a revealing photo of our heroes intently watching messaged from committee chairmen from the United States Congress, in this case the now ethically disgraced Rep. Bob Ney (R, OH).

What exactly is Ney telling Obi Wan and Luke here? And has C-3PO really "shut down for awhile" like he verbally promised?

http://www.labnet.com/oldthink/BobNey_FreedomFries.jpg

Ney was the Congressman so frustrated with France's lack of support on the War on Terror, that he urged renaming French fries, freedom fries. See the connection? Open your eyes!

So Richard Craver and Don Mike have indeed hit on something. Evil, corrupt politicians control the Rebellion against the Empire.

Note Tony Blair - SEE THE COLOR OF HIS WEAPON?

http://www.labnet.com/oldthink/blair.jpg

Puzzling evidence....

wow
Most people here in Oz think there is something more to it than just what we hear on the news etc. Exactly who and what are involved who can say for sure. But one thing is for sure, governments have always been involved in this sort of thing to justify their ends and they always will be. we have our fair share of it here in Australia as well.

Maybe a "main stream" news source might lend the credibility to this that will prompt you to dig a bit. I have a place up there so i occasionally check the local papers like the Calgary Herald...came upon this today.

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...2-180a4720e918

The curious tale of the 'other' WTC tower
Kevin Brooker, Calgary Herald
Published: Monday, March 26, 2007

First, a news quiz: If, some time after the collapse of World Trade Center towers 1 and 2, a 47-storey office building in a major American city also came crashing to the ground, do you think you'd know about it?

Of course, you would.

But if I were to tell you that such an event actually did happen, could you name that building?

If you are like most North Americans, I'm guessing probably not.

In fact, the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building, which was also known as WTC 7 and stood but two blocks away from ground zero, occurred late in the day on Sept. 11, 2001.

It remains one of the central anomalies in a day filled with anomalies, yet it was treated then, and remains today, at least in official annals, as an insignificant footnote.

Struck by no aircraft, and little debris, WTC 7 nevertheless had small fires mysteriously burning in several of its middle floors. Judging from photographs, one would assume those fires should have been easily contained.

Yet at 5:20 p.m., in a space of 6.5 seconds, or practically at a free-fall rate, WTC 7 collapsed perfectly into its footprint. It should have been big news, if only because it would have been the first steel-frame building in history to collapse due exclusively to fire. But for some reason, reporters gave it a wide berth.

Shortly after 9/11, when Associated Press published a timeline of events called A Stunning 48 Hours of News, WTC 7 was not mentioned at all. Neither was it in the government's official 9/11 report. And to this day, authorities have only issued an inconclusive draft report as to why the building fell.

Not everyone is so incurious, however. A host of researchers have busily gathered everything they could learn about that day, and WTC 7 in particular.

Though you're unlikely to have seen it, video of the collapse does exist (and can be found on the Internet). The footage exhibits the hallmarks of controlled demolition, including bursts of dust from what appear to be many tiny explosions and the curtain-like plummeting of the entire structure.

During the brief aftermath before WTC 7 disappeared into the memory hole, CBS anchor Dan Rather showed the video and said, "For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite."

Many have concluded it was just that. Moreover, they discovered that WTC 7 had unusual tenants, including several floors devoted to each of the FBI, the CIA and mayor Rudy Giuliani's emergency headquarters. It was also home to a legal branch of the Security and Exchange Commission, which allegedly harboured evidence relating to a number of ongoing investigations of market malfeasance.

A PBS television documentary later showed the WTC's owner, Larry Silverstein, describing how he reacted that day: " 'We've had such terrible loss of life,' " he recalled saying, " 'maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

ou can read into that what you may, just as you can with the fact that Silverstein's group had only acquired WTC six months earlier, for $3.2 billion, and bought insurance that for the first time specifically indemnified acts of terrorism. As of last report, Silverstein had collected $4.6 billion.

Finally, from the department of curiouser and curiouser, came another bombshell this year. Researchers unearthed a BBC television report from 9/11 in which the reporter announced the collapse of WTC 7. Strangely, though, the building is still plainly visible over her right shoulder, and would not fall for another 20 minutes.

Well, if the rest of the world won't get to the bottom of this, maybe Rosie will.

Kevin Brooker feeds his curiosity in Calgary

Well you have to admit it is interesting that WT7 did crumble to the ground though it wasn't hit by anything that day.

3 buildings imploaded on themselves that day, because of fire

It is a fact that the U.S. president represents the will of the right wing religious minority and powerful 1% base, as he has proudly admitted, though I don't think posting about all this on a Gay webmaster board will have much impact :toff:

GayGravy the mainstream media here in Australia has been reporting on the 9/11 consipiracies for years and having specials aired on network television about the subject :groovy:

Just another quick note:

Remember that it's people selling you oil that want you to need oil

Cigarette companies want you to need cigarrettes

Drug companies want you to need drugs

Oil companies have stopped the electric car succeeding in it's tracks

Cigarette companies made cigarrettes more addictive

Drug companies push their drugs on you

I bought the DVD "The Corporation" about a year ago and it really opens your eyes. Corporations have one goal, to make money. They have no collective conscience. When big business gets to deep into the pockets of a government, you run into the problems we're having now.

As much as I would like to believe this was a huge conspiricy, mainly cause I love that shit, this is not. Yes there is plenty of ammo for the theorists to use when coming up with what seem to be legitimate ideas. But lets be real, this was no conspiricy. A bunch of whack job arab'a got together a while back and planned this. Using a bunch of Saudi cock suckers that had been planted here in the states for years they easily pulled of what many terrorists have been wanting to do. Yes there were a lot of unusual happenings that day such as other buildings collapsing. But you gotta realize the magnitude of what happened. 2 GIANT building came crashing down with no warning. I mean, have you ever seen the twin towers in person? I have and its almost impossible to grasp how big/tall they were without having seen them. I am suprised that there were not more unusual, unexplainable events that occured. I am suprised noone has mentioned the unique lung destroying "dust" that was created when all the different materials (paper, steel, plastic, concrete, etc) were superheated from the friction of the collapse and then compressed with insane force.

If it is possivle for a powder/dust to be created by the collapse that has NEVER been seen before, why is it so hard to believe other building fell due to circumstances noone can even imagine? Or was that fallout from the nukes that n. koreans has planted in the surrounding buildings?

Let me just ask you this, was the 1st WTC attack a conspiricy too? No. But I bet if the towers had fallen that day you'd be calling it one.

--Chubbs

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Originally Posted by chubbs

As much as I would like to believe this was a huge conspiricy, mainly cause I love that shit, this is not. Yes there is plenty of ammo for the theorists to use when coming up with what seem to be legitimate ideas. But lets be real, this was no conspiricy. A bunch of whack job arab'a got together a while back and planned this.

Let me just ask you this, was the 1st WTC attack a conspiricy too? No. But I bet if the towers had fallen that day you'd be calling it one.

--Chubbs

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Frankly, looking at the notion that a few "whack jobs" managed to pull this off, vs the notion that this was an inside deal between Mossad and our intelligence units, the inside deal is FAR more plausable.

Besides which - if you only look at the collapse of the WTC from a games-theory point of view - it is a BRILLIANT political manuver that got all interested parties exactly what they wanted.

Our intelligence agencies couldnt pull this off by themselves, but Mossad could - right down to enlisting the "whack jobs".

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Originally Posted by chubbs

As much as I would like to believe this was a huge conspiricy, mainly cause I love that shit, this is not.

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I personally don't think it's a big huge conspiracy but I do think there's a lot we don't know that would change our outlook on what happened.

I also think something is very odd about WT7 crumbling to the ground from a normal fire. It wasn't hit by anything that day

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Originally Posted by chubbs

As much as I would like to believe this was a huge conspiricy, mainly cause I love that shit, this is not. Yes there is plenty of ammo for the theorists to use when coming up with what seem to be legitimate ideas. But lets be real, this was no conspiricy. A bunch of whack job arab'a got together a while back and planned this. Using a bunch of Saudi cock suckers that had been planted here in the states for years they easily pulled of what many terrorists have been wanting to do. Yes there were a lot of unusual happenings that day such as other buildings collapsing. But you gotta realize the magnitude of what happened. 2 GIANT building came crashing down with no warning. I mean, have you ever seen the twin towers in person? I have and its almost impossible to grasp how big/tall they were without having seen them. I am suprised that there were not more unusual, unexplainable events that occured. I am suprised noone has mentioned the unique lung destroying "dust" that was created when all the different materials (paper, steel, plastic, concrete, etc) were superheated from the friction of the collapse and then compressed with insane force.

If it is possivle for a powder/dust to be created by the collapse that has NEVER been seen before, why is it so hard to believe other building fell due to circumstances noone can even imagine? Or was that fallout from the nukes that n. koreans has planted in the surrounding buildings?

Let me just ask you this, was the 1st WTC attack a conspiricy too? No. But I bet if the towers had fallen that day you'd be calling it one.

--Chubbs

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Chubbs, your taste in our fine SF restaurants is exemplary but you're wrong on this one man. I said something similar to this about 2 years ago in a conversation during a flight to Manila...I was wrong.
It's all going to come out.

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Originally Posted by GayGravy-JJ

Chubbs, your taste in our fine SF restaurants is exemplary but you're wrong on this one man. I said something similar to this about 2 years ago in a conversation during a flight to Manila...I was wrong.
It's all going to come out.

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The question is when will it all come out

Our grandparents generation are just now finding out things that happened in the last world war as our parents are just finding out about things that happened in Vietnam :cheekymonkey:

And it's just coming out that the reason the British soldiers were taken by Iran was because of a botched U.S. job to abduct some Iranian security officers on an official visit in Iraq http://news.independent.co.uk/world/...cle2414760.ece

This administration = lies, deception, manipulation, greed = a black mark on our history

Stupid question but what has the evnts on 9/11 got to do with the porn industry?:fucked: :)

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Originally Posted by jaycar

Stupid question but what has the evnts on 9/11 got to do with the porn industry?:fucked: :)

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The government is planning to blow the American porn webmasters up and blame it on Canada.

he he , thats cool, if they leave us aussies alone....but then again, we have our PM Mr. Johnny Howard...god knows what hes planning to do with the industry here.:sleepy:

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Originally Posted by jaycar

Stupid question but what has the evnts on 9/11 got to do with the porn industry?:fucked: :)

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What does it not have to do with everything?

sorry mate, that comment doesnt make sense, but Im listening to an explanation :bigears: