Do you ever recruit hot guys in person?

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Originally Posted by SnowBoy

Hey Mamakity. Thanks for the new perspective!!!!

so far i've been interviewing the girls letting them that they need to do ALL the work of approaching the guys and explaining the details of the work and ONLY THEN do i want them to refer them over to me. So basically for the $200 i expected them to do ALL the dirty work.

Or...NEW IDEA...I could drop the commission down to maybe $100 and just give them general company cards...."male models wanted...hot sexy muscled guy wanted for nude photo and video work...call 604-123-4567" (blah blah)...and ask them to simply hand them out to potential models....with their name printed on the cards so that i could compensate them accordingly.

This way, i think it's much less scary for them. They can approach more guys this way since all they really have to do is talk to them for a bit and hand the a card. I'd have to do most of the other work when and if they call, but i wont be paying them half as much. Hmmmm...i think this is a better system. What do you think?

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I haven't tried the in person recruiting yet so I can't get to much good advice but I will try anyway. I think your idea is good. I think it is definetly worth a try. If you have a website you could direct them to a specific url in order to get credit. At $200 if your people are not producing then you seriously need to restructure something. :)

Mark

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Originally Posted by IntenseCash.com

I haven't tried the in person recruiting yet so I can't get to much good advice but I will try anyway. I think your idea is good. I think it is definetly worth a try. If you have a website you could direct them to a specific url in order to get credit. At $200 if your people are not producing then you seriously need to restructure something. :)

Mark

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yeah, the only problem with asking the talent scouts to hand out general company biz cards (instead of their own biz cards with their own phone number on them) to potential models is that they would want to be sure that they are being compensated for models that actually come through. I can't think how i could guarantee this to them besides offering them my own personal guarantee. Which is not always enough in this situation.

Any thoughts?

The website thing sounds good but it’s just that I think if these girls are approaching hot qualified guys, I’d rather have them call the office directly so that I can speak to them right off the bat. I find that when you make it hard for models to apply (ie go to the website to fill out a form instead of giving them a direct number that they can call) they tend to lose interest and give up.

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Originally Posted by SnowBoy

yeah, the only problem with asking the talent scouts to hand out general company biz cards (instead of their own biz cards with their own phone number on them) to potential models is that they would want to be sure that they are being compensated for models that actually come through. I can't think how i could guarantee this to them besides offering them my own personal guarantee. Which is not always enough in this situation.

Any thoughts?

The website thing sounds good but it’s just that I think if these girls are approaching hot qualified guys, I’d rather have them call the office directly so that I can speak to them right off the bat. I find that when you make it hard for models to apply (ie go to the website to fill out a form instead of giving them a direct number that they can call) they tend to lose interest and give up.

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I think just having the cards with your number would be best. These modeling recruits would represent your company and I could just see some problems having them explain every last detail unless you really train them. I would just have your number and then every time you get a model ask who or where they found out about you and give that person credit. This would also help because you would know details of which advertising is doing well and which is not. For example if you do any advertising in the paper you could know how much business you are getting from that ad etc.

Mark

okay "porn recruiting class" repeat after me!..."i get $200.00 simply for talking a guy into posing nude and jacking off for an adult website , i may use any and all types of seductive clothing and dialog , but i may not touch or promise sex! , i am expected to maintain a monthly quota of 30 guys but not to exceed 60 because my lowly photographer has to pay 8 other girls besides myself , i promise to do my best , to do my duty , and obey the laws of the pack..err..porn! :goof:

sincerely ~ ..."troop beverly boobs"... :beauty:

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Originally Posted by longboardjim

i may use any and all types of seductive clothing and dialog , but i may not touch or promise sex!

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are you kidding? i don't care WHAT they do. As long as they're bringing in the goods, i could care less ;)

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Originally Posted by IntenseCash.com

I think just having the cards with your number would be best. These modeling recruits would represent your company and I could just see some problems having them explain every last detail unless you really train them. I would just have your number and then every time you get a model ask who or where they found out about you and give that person credit. This would also help because you would know details of which advertising is doing well and which is not. For example if you do any advertising in the paper you could know how much business you are getting from that ad etc.

Mark

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That's totally what i was thinking. These girls just don't have the training to be able to answer all the models questions. I've found that when they do answer all the models questions, they do it in a way that scares the models away or have them not be interested.

It only makes sense that i take care of that aspect of the work, since i've been doing this much longer than them, and i know what works and what doesn't.

Thanks Mark!

Now, only if these gilrs could trust that i'll compensate them for every model that they refer. hmmmm...

i'm confused did someone just change their name?:)

...i'd like to say that being chosen as this year's "mr.august" is a compliment i'll treasure for as long as i can remember , right now i'm in my "fourth year" as a "freshmen" at UCLA studying to be a "vetrinarian" cause i love "children!"
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sincerely ~ ..."cause i'm a blonde!" - julie brown

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Originally Posted by GPallan

That's totally what i was thinking. These girls just don't have the training to be able to answer all the models questions. I've found that when they do answer all the models questions, they do it in a way that scares the models away or have them not be interested.

It only makes sense that i take care of that aspect of the work, since i've been doing this much longer than them, and i know what works and what doesn't.

Thanks Mark!

Now, only if these girls could trust that i'll compensate them for every model that they refer. hmmmm...

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I think I have an idea for the trust issue for compensating the models. Tell the girls who are recruiting to tell the potential models that if they say that she referred them that they will get an extra 25 an hour or some sort of bonus. This way it will insure that when you shoot the model he will tell you oh yeah so and so referred me and said I would get an extra 25 an hour. I think that would work really well and might even help get more models. :)

Mark

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Originally Posted by TMBBrian

Yes! Don't forget to throw in the infamous "and by the way..."

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do you think it's a bad idea to say "nude" modeling right on the biz cards? wouldn't it be too big of a jump if they phoned in thinking that it's "modeling" and for you to have to let them know that it's actually porn? right there on the phone.

I mean, if they at least new it required nudity and they still called, then they're much more likely to not freak out and maybe come in to meet with you, no?

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Originally Posted by TMBBrian

If you're on the shy side, simple business cards saying something like "Male Models Needed...$500 per hour" always works well. Drop a few on countertops, bathrooms, bulletin boards, colleges, gyms, bars, etc.

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do you think it's a bad idea to say "nude" modeling right on the biz cards? wouldn't it be too big of a jump if they phoned in thinking that it's "modeling" and for you to have to let them know that it's actually porn? right there on the phone.

I mean, if they at least new it required nudity and they still called, then they're much more likely to not freak out and maybe come in to meet with you, no?

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Originally Posted by GPallan

do you think it's a bad idea to say "nude" modeling right on the biz cards? wouldn't it be too big of a jump if they phoned in thinking that it's "modeling" and for you to have to let them know that it's actually porn? right there on the phone.

I mean, if they at least new it required nudity and they still called, then they're much more likely to not freak out and maybe come in to meet with you, no?

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I would like some input on your question also. When do you break it to them that it is nude modeling?

Thanks,
Mark

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Originally Posted by IntenseCash.com

I would like some input on your question also. When do you break it to them that it is nude modeling?

Thanks,
Mark

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you should definitely let them know that the work requires nudity in person, right off the bat. You don't have to mention that it's porn at this stage (but if the time is appropriate then you should, i believe). If you didn't even mention that it requires nudity and they call you on the phone the next day and realize that it's not conventional modeling but full-out porn, they'll hang up in a second.

It's not that hard to let them know that the work requires them to be nude. Simply say "oh and btw....just to let you know, the work will require nudity." Most people know that even conventional modeling requires nudity, so most guys will be cool with it at this stage. The trick is not to come on full-force, but to rather "ease" them into it. If you look them in the eye with confidence, they'll be much more cool with the idea.

Like i said, i don't scout guy myself very often, but from talking to my talent scouts and after meeting with many guys (after they've replied to an ad for eaxmple), i have a basic grasp of what works. So I too would totally appreciate it if some experts in this field could offer their advice.

Allan