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Originally Posted by abostonboy

Imagine Max with his affilate program and acting as affiliate rep and telling webmasters that promote his proram that AVS is dead.

LAUGH MY FUCKING ASS OFF!

Fuck, I would design AVS sites for them. tell them where to submit them and let them make both sales off joins in teh inside to my paysite and joins on the outside that they keep to the AVS. Trust me that webmaster would stickk with me for a while. :)

He may sell 2 AVS memberships and maybe 1 to my program. IF I have a $30 PPS proggie and he averages $20 a signup to teh three avses. He's just made $70 for an hours worth of time. Not bad for a newbie. And very easy to do. EVEN IN THIS CHANGING MARKET!

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When is the last time their was a new big AVS site man? 1999? I would never tell anyone to not use AVS, and was just joking about the “twitcher” thing but in all reality now days free traffic will convert much better and their is a very limited amount of AVS traffic at all. I would say 1/3 or less of it than even 3 years ago.

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Originally Posted by maxpower

What was your first clue? Normally you can pick out these guys that would never promote twink stuff just from the hostility in their post and a total lack of a since of humor. Well that and you could not do that “normally” with any mainstream content.

It might just be me but, maybe some people might want to get laid a bit more, and I am not counting that stick up their ass as a cock

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No.

If I rember right i know him from AVS friendly and I know if he's who i remember his site.

Nothing about hostility at all.

Just been around a bit :)

Actually IF I remember right he made some decent money of a twink ste.

I would say the Last Big AVS site worth a crap that opened was Mansites and that had to be more than 5 years ago or so. If nothing else that should tell you something, but of course I am totally wrong and we all expect the next major gay AVS any day now, because they are just so successful. I would probably suggest not holding you breath, their might be one more who knows but we are at the end of the road with this.

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Originally Posted by abostonboy

Actually IF I remember right he made some decent money of a twink ste.

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Nah, that wasn't me! Lol. You were right the first time. But i have other irons in the fire too. Just no twink sites.

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Originally Posted by maxpower

But in all reality now days free traffic will convert much better and their is a very limited amount of AVS traffic at all. I would say 1/3 or less of it than even 3 years ago.

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You may not know the AVS market then. That's good if you feel that way. I just don't see how you can justify that traffic you have not pre-qualified as traffic having used a c/c in the past is better than FREE traffic.

If you are talking in total sales - yes. But AVS traffic IMHO retains much better. And is traffic that i will send to a niche % program in a heart beat.

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Originally Posted by maxpower

I would say the Last Big AVS site worth a crap that opened was Mansites and that had to be more than 5 years ago or so.

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You obviously missed a huge trend in the market... the movie AEN/AVSs like AdultBouncer, PornAccess, DeluxePass, etc. They revolutionized the AVS market with a new business model. Some of my movie archives have more content than a typical paysite and the network has 1,000s of gigs of full-length DVD content.

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

You obviously missed a huge trend in the market... the movie AEN/AVSs like AdultBouncer, PornAccess, DeluxePass, etc. They revolutionized the AVS market with a new business model. Some of my movie archives have more content than a typical paysite and the network has 1,000s of gigs of full-length DVD content.

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STOP RIGHT THERE! Please......

Please....

Please.....

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Originally Posted by abostonboy

STOP RIGHT THERE! Please......

Please....

Please.....

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Did I hit a nerve?

Ummm no.

But in a tgp thread you mentioned I gave away a lot of secrets.

You are on the verge....

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Originally Posted by abostonboy

Ummm no.

But in a tgp thread you mentioned I gave away a lot of secrets.

You are on the verge....

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HAHA! You're right. Nevermind. Nothing to see here folks... move along.

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

HAHA! You're right. Nevermind. Nothing to see here folks... move along.

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EXACTLY!

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Originally Posted by abostonboy

You may not know the AVS market then. That's good if you feel that way. I just don't see how you can justify that traffic you have not pre-qualified as traffic having used a c/c in the past is better than FREE traffic.

If you are talking in total sales - yes. But AVS traffic IMHO retains much better. And is traffic that i will send to a niche % program in a heart beat.

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I am not the only one that says that man, even as I recall to use someone around here the guy from http://www.intensecash.com says it converts less on his site. You would think it would be better, but in reality it does not. Not they have way less traffic and the traffic they do have converts only about 70-80% of what free traffic will.

Max,

AVS's have evolved. There is a NEW AVS with a totally different model. An Avs where you don't even have to create a site. :)

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

You obviously missed a huge trend in the market... the movie AEN/AVSs like AdultBouncer, PornAccess, DeluxePass, etc. They revolutionized the AVS market with a new business model. Some of my movie archives have more content than a typical paysite and the network has 1,000s of gigs of full-length DVD content.

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Well thax man, did not really know about that I will give them a try. I for one am not a cock blocker, is their any wonder why people do not trust allot of the stuff some of the people around here say. But thax again at least I got something out of this today, it does help to stir the pot at least that is what I keep telling myself