Bareback Videos Addicted

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Originally Posted by jIgG

so nobody at all ever, anywhere, watches bareback sex and goes out to try it themselves? ever?

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Well people are smarter then that. They know what they are doing. Barebacking is not a "learned behavior" just like homosexuality is not a "learned behavior."

And the same with crystal --- even if there were no crystal, some people would be barebacking. People get drunk at bars, hook up and have unprotected sex as well. Sex and sexuality is a titilating issue - and, unfortunately, a lot of these issues get caught up in lots of hype.

I know everyone here has their heart in the right place. I have met many of you guys - and we are all old enough the remember the 80s. But I have also considered the idea that people do not necessarily always act in the smartest, most logical and and necessarily healthful way. And who says what is best? The pope? Mom?

Risk is a part of life.

Should you go get an easy college degree and work as an accountant for a federal agency all your life safe and sound, or should you leave college early and strike out on your own as a self employed entreprenuer?

People drive without seat belts. People eat at Wendy's every day. Every male in here could vastly reduce their suseptibility to colon cancer, diabetes and heart congestion if they became a vegetarian starting right now. So are you? If you are not, are you therefore on a Death Wish?

There are arguably no positive benefits to smoking cigarettes... but hey it is fun. Anyone had a relative die from emphysema? Is this the same thing where people go on a personal vandetta, like anti smoking crusaders, anti porn crusaders or Mothers Against Drunk Driving?

One thing I have noticed about the barebacking issue, is that people have different attitudes about risk in their lives. A lot of this translates to their sexual attitudes and behaviors as well. (I've noticed the attitude among people in other countries is markedly different from say - older white gay guys on the pAcific coast.... or from hispanics in south texas.... anywhere)

I guess I just happen to have a classical libertarian attitude, and that's about most everything.... everyone is different.

Steve

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Originally Posted by dalimili

Dorothy, do you actually believe that 100% of the Gay, Hetero or Bi people use condoms all the time?? Regardless if they watched bareback sex, had dinner with a friend, went to opera before that?

I don't see the connection. Those that practice, or because of any other reason do not use condoms when they have sex, it's surely not because of the bareback movies, that most of them even don't know those kind of specialized movies exist.

God.... where do you people get these views? Too much Fox News and shit like that I guess....

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First of all I'm a guy and like to be addressed as such, please don't talk to me in feminine tense.
Two. I never said I believed everyone used rubber, if I did show me where and when I said it.

Three - drug use, unprotected sex and HIV rates are on the rise.

Or is that some anti-gay consipracy bullshit spread by Foxnews to feed bullshit to the masses?

And just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't mean you should be a fag about it and equal it to Foxnews, right-wing nuts or such much like the rest of the anything-goes gay crowd that thinks obvious bad behaviour shouldn't be pointed out to them, especially by other gays.


It's not about bareback movies and people fucking with no rubber, it's about the attitude of glorifying unprotected sex, dismissing HIV and making it look like a nuissanse that can be controlled with drugs, in the name of doing what feels better. If you don't think there's a growing sub-culture in the gay community that's about doing what feels good, and making sure not that HIV is PREVENTED but rather kept in control with drugs, so anyone can fuck with anyone unprotected for as long as possible then I don't know.

And my opinion is formed not by what Foxnews tells me, but what a lot of gay rags online and offline are writing about it.

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I still believe you should stop watching Fox and Abc

And the same shit coming from a man who wrote this kind of crap


http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...7&page=2&pp=15


You really have some issues....

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Originally Posted by desslock

Well people are smarter then that. They know what they are doing. Barebacking is not a "learned behavior" just like homosexuality is not a "learned behavior."

And the same with crystal --- even if there were no crystal, some people would be barebacking. People get drunk at bars, hook up and have unprotected sex as well. Sex and sexuality is a titilating issue - and, unfortunately, a lot of these issues get caught up in lots of hype.

I know everyone here has their heart in the right place. I have met many of you guys - and we are all old enough the remember the 80s. But I have also considered the idea that people do not necessarily always act in the smartest, most logical and and necessarily healthful way. And who says what is best? The pope? Mom?

Risk is a part of life.

Should you go get an easy college degree and work as an accountant for a federal agency all your life safe and sound, or should you leave college early and strike out on your own as a self employed entreprenuer?

People drive without seat belts. People eat at Wendy's every day. Every male in here could vastly reduce their suseptibility to colon cancer, diabetes and heart congestion if they became a vegetarian starting right now. So are you? If you are not, are you therefore on a Death Wish?

There are arguably no positive benefits to smoking cigarettes... but hey it is fun. Anyone had a relative die from emphysema? Is this the same thing where people go on a personal vandetta, like anti smoking crusaders, anti porn crusaders or Mothers Against Drunk Driving?

One thing I have noticed about the barebacking issue, is that people have different attitudes about risk in their lives. A lot of this translates to their sexual attitudes and behaviors as well. (I've noticed the attitude among people in other countries is markedly different from say - older white gay guys on the pAcific coast.... or from hispanics in south texas.... anywhere)

I guess I just happen to have a classical libertarian attitude, and that's about most everything.... everyone is different.

Steve

Human

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You are right except that when you're not a vegetarian only you get colon cancer, and not you and everyone you fucked.

It's like getting drunk at home, when you get in the car and go off driving you're affecting you but also anyone else who might be in the car with you, and everyone else on the road.

sure take a risk, whatever. I have friends that like to race cars, climb rocks with no rope, jump with parachutes and open them as late as possible. But that doesn't affect me or anyone else who doesn't do what they do. 've told them what I think about it, they don't care, and that's that.

You have people who've never taken an HIV test and don't even know what STDs they have, and probably think they're HIV-, those who never would take a test, those that find it a turn off to even ask about the other guy's status, those that lie about being HIV- ... that affects more than just the risk takers

I've heard both sides of the story over and over again. However, I just don't buy that pornagraphers should act or think they can be a moral compass for anyone. I understand if you have personal ethics behind not wanting to view, produce or support barebacking. Personally, for me - I have no problem with bareback porn.

sure let them support and do whatever they want, but they should also fuck amongst themselves too then

http://www.willclarkusa.com/nyblade.cfm?Show=10

Let's not forget that we're talking about movies here. Movies whether mainstream or porn are simply a reflection of society. Life dictates art. Art is not supposed to dictate life.

http://www.willclarkusa.com/mainfram...ngaboutsex.cfm

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Originally Posted by BananaMan

I think bareback porn contributes to an overall attitude in our community that unprotected sex is without consequences - and that translates to more unsafe sex and more HIV / AIDS infections.

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For me, there are several issues with barebacking:

1) First and foremost, the health -- and, realistically, the very lives -- of the models are being put at risk to make a few more bucks for the producer. I know of at least one producer claiming that he does "very sensitive" HIV tests at the moment of the shoot, but this is bullshit because the latency time is known to be 90 days and some studies show longer... so the model that screwed around the week or month or 3 months before the shoot could be positive, infecting others, and STILL not show positive for the antibodies. There is NO WAY to make barebacking safe for the model.

2) Based on what our models have told us about being approached to do bareback work for other studios, more than one studio is blatantly lying to prospective models about the risk. (This in addition to lying about the accuracy of the tests.) The models, many of whom are barely 18 and may be coming from small towns, are often naive and inclined to believe what someone - particularly someone "in the industry" tells them.

3) The message it sends to the viewer is that barebacking is hot, cool, the "in" thing, the exotic, dangerous thing to do. While for someone with some sense, it will be viewed as a fantasy (as Dzinerbear rightly points out), for others, it sends a powerful message.

4) In the early 80s, our industry switched, almost overnight, from all-bareback to all-safe production. This was for a reason... because people were dying and it sent the wrong message, not to mention that it wasn't safe for the models. Nothing has changed, except that no one under 40 can really know what it was like to have dozens or hundreds of your friends dying, and a few renegade producers have started a trend that makes them extra cash at the expense of their models' safety.

5) A *lot* of people dedicated the rest of their shortened lives, once they became positive, spreading the word, reaching out, founding organizations to ensure that others wouldn't repeat their mistakes. Much of what they did was in the face of fierce opposition, because the whole notion was unpopular... bathhouses were closed, the bar scene changed, lots of things happened that most of us are too young to really understand or remember. But because there was such unprecedented unity and action in the community, everyone got the message relatively quickly about the importance of safe sex and the risks of HIV. Nothing has changed except that the drugs are better and people don't die as quickly. People that don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. So if we do nothing, we can expect that another generation will experience rates of HIV infection that are unprecedented.

Yes, it is the producer's free speech right to make bareback porn, and yes, it's the model's choice to risk his life if he chooses to. But if we care about one another, about our community, and about our youth, it is, in my book, irresponsible to produce it, sell it, or buy it.

lol, I can't say Fox and News in the same sentence without getting the giggles.

Caliente is not alone in this. He was just silly enough to not be PC, instead choosing to be very candid about his desires in a semi-public forum. Most consumers watch porn to see people do things they will not or can not do for a variety of reasons. Whether it is a straight guy who can only enjoy male-sex when he watches videos or a gay guy who could never see himself getting gang-banged or double-penetrated but wants to experience it via someone else -- it is the fundamental service provided by our industry. Performers do their job to satify our fantasies.

My hat off to Caliente for being honest in his opinions in this forum.

Keith

We believe in personal responsibility. You control your own actions. In our productions we choose to use condoms for anal sex, but not oral sex. To some that’s not safe enough. But, that’s where we draw the line.

When you see someone killed in a "Hollywood" movie nobody really dies. When you see someone do cocaine or other drugs it’s (most likely) not really drugs. It’s total fantasy: contrived and false. However, it’s not the same with bareback sex is it? Those dangerous actions being filmed are actually dangerous, to a degree that we find unacceptable.

Just like constructions workers wear hard hats and doctors wear gloves, our models wear condoms when they ass fuck. It’s only reasonable and prudent.

The penalty: We don’t make as much money as “barebacking” companies. But, there IS more to life than money.

We don't judge the conduct of others. We control our own and those we employ.

The bottom line: We love our boys and want them to live long and heathly lives.

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Originally Posted by Cruisemaster

Most consumers watch porn to see people do things they will not or can not do for a variety of reasons.

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Very true. People watch porn for the same reason they watch a blockbuster movie at the theatre with friends on a Friday night, they want to go on an adventure, escape reality, and have a great experience.

It's strange to see some people in this thread so brainwashed to think people with HIV are all meth users, promiscuous, or chronically irresponsible. That leads other uninformed people to believe that anyone who gets HIV deserves it, and that's not true, their logic is flawed.

Viruses don't discriminate. The flu, TB, a cold, HIV. Cancer doesn't discriminate either. If someone has cancer do we blame them and label them? NO.

The reason HIV is prevalent in the Gay community and Heterosexual community in Africa is because of anal sex. The CDC has found that Catholic Africans strictly abide by the Popes no condoms rule, and prevent pregnancy, by having unprotected anal sex with their female partners.

Think of your discriminating views.. women in Africa don't do meth or are chronically irresponsible or stupid, yet they get HIV.

Please don't spread the religious rights agenda by saying Gay men get HIV because they deserve it and are irresponsible, it's simply not true. People struck with HIV/AIDS or any other multitude of other life threatening ailments, deserve nothing but our compassion and support period, anything else is destructive to them and our community. :francais:

a lot of people do things that they see in porn movies - sex positions and other things. and 18 year old performers from the midwest aren't the only naive people - there are plenty of 18 year old viewers out there.

most people i know watch hollywood productions and think they don't believe what they see. yet virtually everyone i know - damned close to everyone - actually develops opinions about the actors based on the parts they play. susan lucci used to get hissed on the street by men and women - because they believed she was as evil and mean as erica kane. i've heard interviews with a lot of actors who play "bad guys", and how many people come up to them and insult them or tell them off. as a culture, we DO believe - even when we don't.

besides, any company or director that requires or allows their performers to go bareback is risking their lives. and anyone who wants to pretend that an 18 year old from wisconsin who lived with his family till now REALLY believes he can get HIV is simply rationalizing so they won't feel guilty. most 18 year olds believe anything someone over 30 tells them - so tell them firmly that it's okay to go condom-free (when you know it may not be) and they will really let you make that decision as an adult and an authority...