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Originally Posted by abostonboy
Can you have Ads? whats the URLs?
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Originally Posted by abostonboy
Can you have Ads? whats the URLs?
just as lee said in an earlier post don't listen to one webmaster. Yes, they are big. And since the fact that as you say the traffic is smaller than the hun, a new niche site that an AVS surfer has not seen before, converts and retains way better than a site that is all over the net.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
Avses are amazing tools to market new smaller sites in a niche.
And the reason sites like Intense cash do so poorly is that they basically have the same feeds as say you get with a UGAS Platinum membership which you get a trial to an a regular membership or a Man Check Plus Membership whic is all get a trail to as well. So why would w member join a site that basically has the same content he's already getting if he stayed thru the trial at the avs.
But a smaller niche site. Hmmmmmm....
Test it out. don't take my work for it.
I know a webmaster that has made over $10,000 just selling one website on one AVS in about a year. Creating one site a day 5 days a week. And the damn avs sites he creates is a template. takes him maybe 15 min a day to design/submit. $10k a year for 15 min a day work. I am envisious of him. :)
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Originally Posted by maxpower
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Originally Posted by abostonboy
I did not just go by him, that has been my experience as well, I just used him as an example so you might see that I was not alone in this. But even getting them to join a free trial is a bitch not even counting retention. I really did use to love avs site years ago, they made 45% of my sales but now I could almost count the number of people they send a site in a day on my hands, and that has nothing to do with my site after all they have to click the link to even see my site. As I recall there premium memberships to AVS sites are like 40-45$ a month and that is not really something I want to promote
Are these NEW sites going to let me run Ads? Or are they cock blocking?
Thax I will check them out too, I do try new sites and directory very month or so normally with very limited success. I do see a trend with list sites the more rules they have normally the more of a waist of time it is to mess with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by abostonboy
I hear from a lot of twink-only webmasters that AVS is dead. Since I don't do twink and I wouldn't know... maybe they are right.
I would say Hunk sites are even more saturated that twink stuff, maybe this bear stuff just works good with AVS sites. Who know their are not really that many pay sites for that stuff. This over saturation of twink stuff have made go even younger and harder core with my new sites just to be seen. Just look at the stuff I talk about doing now, hell I strated out doing frat stuff, if you want to talk about over saturated you can not give away most frat sitesQuote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
Hell thinking about the future, what sites am I going to have to make in 5 years to just be seen Eskimo Seal Fuckers or what?
None of these are AVS sites or really anything like that, they will not allow any ads, most you can not even use your own content, or point to any site off their servers for any reason, its just looks like a new/different way to run hosted gallery’s for a pay site. I kinda knew I was not that out of the loop, its ok I guess if you a really new str8 affiliate other than that I do not see any use in them at all. If I am missing something please tell me, I have more gay movies with just my AEBN feeds then they have.
What you are missing is another way to make money. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
And not all Movie AENs make you use their content. They are just paranoid about webmasters ripping DVDs that they do not have license to use.
Some will even design a tour for you, host your site, give you content and even update the site for you. All you have to do is promote your archive. But not all will do everything for you. Some will let you choose your level of involvement. Also, using Badpuppy is a good way to have more control. They essentially act as your host and CC processor. Their only limitation is "no dick" on the tour. :(
I look at it this way... I have tons of licensed content. Why not make money with it as many ways as I can?
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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
Well man the problem is limited traffic, if I had a endless supply of traffic ya sure promoting their hosted sites or what ever would be fine, but traffic is not unlimited. I only really care about traffic, while ya sure I could make money but I could also promote real affiliate program with the same traffic. If I can not run ads, use exit traffic, or really do much more than I could with any sites hosted galleries then I do not see this does any good at all. I have programs that I can run with sites as it is now, that will sell better and I can more money with their PPS or Rev share, and also run more than 1 program at a time to really filter the limited traffic I have much better. This just looks cool for people that can not make their own sites.
BTW I am sure these sites really suck for members with about the same hosted content in all of them
Did you read more than 2 lines of my posts? I make a very nice income from my movie archives. The designs are all mine. The content is mostly mine. And the vast majority of my traffic comes from SE traffic. I do almost nothing but purchase content and update about once per month.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
And no, they don't. They rebill very well for me... better than any other sponsor of mine. Some of these AEN's have more high-quality full-length movies than any paysite. AEBN quality is shit compared to some of these gorgeous massive DVD rips on the Movie AENs.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
OK thax I guess I will give it a try, but I am not going to really be providing traffic for them. I will provide content and help create sites for their members. But I am sure my personal designers could make a better site and other major sites would sell better.
I would say only 20% of the reason I make sites for AVS services are the sales the generate, in fact I do not really care at all about them making sales. I want traffic good clean huge amounts of traffic for my effort in making sites, and making their members happy. If not I might as well promote others better sites that will convert better, pay more, and will let me have allot more of a share in the profits today and tomorrow.
I am going to go to bed but thax Xsrt8 I will give them a try, its just traffic is limited and I do have my own members sites to promote ya know
Yes, i agree that traffic is a problem. But if you have patience and design your sites properly, the SEs will go a long way to feeding your sites.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower