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Originally Posted by maxpower
The key words in this case are "barely legal." When you say that, even with high school guys, you're talking about seniors who are 18. When you say "sweet young twinks" or "just old enough to take it up the ass" you are not nearly as clear -- a 14 year old could take it up the ass, but couldn't of course legally appear in adult content.
Like I said... it's all about what level of risk is comfortable.
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Originally Posted by boyfunk
I understand its just to me we are in the same boat, if they are going to come after me about what I said you would be standing right next to me. Some things are worse about my text, but then again some things are worse about yours. Like you said its all up to interpretation, but I think we are spiting hairs a bit with this one.
BTW Amateur Teen Boys or First Time Teens could also be considered 14 year olds its all how you look at it. I am not knocking you just a bit like the pot calling the kettle black
Barely Legal High school boys is simulated child porn. When we as societ consider high school boys to be mostly under 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
IF a company release a dvd called Hot High School Boys, its simulated chil porn even if the models are 18+
You could create a site called junior high dropouts and it IS leagal as long as the models are 18+
This was a lwa that was originally against the law but was overturned by Ashcroft vs Ucla in 2000. Due to a case brought against a porn compant I believe that produced a DVD.
But just because it's legal doesnt mean its the best was to go.
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Originally Posted by boyfunk
See its not the school boys thing that bothers me about this, its that he said all this about my fraises when he has worse on his own site. I really do believe its really easy to throw around the whole CP thing, but damn normally the people that do that do not run a site that is attracting pedophiles/ephebophiles or encouraging that sort of behavior much more than I am. Not that I really think that is what he is doing, personally I believe it had more to do with just taking a shot at me, but we all know about throwing stone when we live in a glass house. I am ok with his text and mine, but I would not call him a ********* just to be a dick
i love the new paranoia but chip has said this to other people who aren't you and he said it before you ever saw this board.
the truth is who else would be looking for "young twinks" since they don't sound legal? there are plenty of rent boys in hollywood who really are boys - it's not rare.
So you really think I should change the “Watch These Young Twinks Getting Down & Dirty” to “Watch These Twink Dudes Getting Down & Dirty”, personally it sounds like semantics to me, but that would be the worse possible fraises in my site as far as the CP crap goes, but if I keep changing everything that someone could say sounds like CP to them at the end of the day I would have a HUNK site
BTW it might just be me LOL but I would say High School Boys is 10X worse than Young twink in the way I used it even if you say barley legal before it, but I understand I am a easy target. What I do not understand is why when I question some of the advise I get that some people can not see why I might not trust all of it.
Hell never mind I do like Watch These Twink Dudes Getting Down & Dirty more
At some point people will realize that money is only one part of a happy life. :)
Much of the text was written by Patti, who has been doing this a long time, and has a good idea about these sort of things... and everything we have on our site has not only passed muster with Visa, Paycom, and CCBill, but also with Chad, our attorney.
Do what you want, Sean, but whatever you do, I would advise you to get a good attorney (or two!) to review your text and discuss the relative risks with you.
There are no LEGAL risks to be honest.
There are risks that he may get 200 members and visa say no.
There are risks he may get webmasters not wanting to promote him.
And there is a risk he may have to show 2257 at SOME point. But even then maybe never.
And there is a risk he may wake up and not feel good about it.
The latter has happened to me in my life. :)
Maxpower: I have one important suggestion for you. In English, prepositions are never capitalized. Write that down. Post this on sticky sheets on your monitor, refrigerator and bathroom mirror. I'm sure your content choices will do well for you and everything, but you need to learn that grammar rule and utilize it.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
For example, if you look up on Amazon the dvd for the movie The Boys in the Band - see where capitals are omitted? Another example: Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark
That means your first line should read "Watch the Ultimate Boy Sex Party Live 24/7" I recommend that you go back and uncapitalize all the many prepositions which you use. That's one of the reasons people criticize you.
And actually, this is an extremely common problem all over the place. There is a slim little book called The Elements of Style by Strunk and White. You can find it in any bookstore anywhere, and used bookstores will have a jillion copies for almost nothing. It is a wonderful thing to keep on your desk for quick reference. You don't need to know the complexities of writing a master's thesis, but you should know basic rules of writing English.
I happened to not pay attention in grammar class myself, but when I started making websites, I made myself learn some rules. Everyone makes mistakes, but you can easily learn a few basic rules and people will not think you somehow left school in the 9th grade.
Think of it this way - you will sell more.
Steve
OMG get real man, this text was just made for this forum on the site ALL the text will be capitalized ever single letter, I do have a professional doing it. If the capitalization of a few words is your biggest problem with it then I guess that is a good thing. :sleep:
I do not "have a problem" with anything your choose to do. You asked for suggestions. I was trying to suggest something that would immediately make it more professional looking and saleable. But you say that you have to pay "a professional" to handle all those pesky details, so I am sorry for wasting your time and mine.
Steve
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Originally Posted by desslock
What I am saying is that my designers will handle the text in the graphics. I only wrote the text like that to make every word stand out for you guys. Was not thinking about anything else, I do not go around capitalizing every word or anything for no reason.
BTW their still is time to make some revisions you see any text that you do not like? Not that I really think most people really read that stuff its more made for people that just skim the text on the site while looking at the images.
by changing the text on their sites - and nothing else - a bunch of my clients saw conversion increases of 15% on average. some some a little less, several saw 20%. i referred another client to another writer with the same results.
your text is still generic and although you are trying hard to make the guys sound young, there's nothing particularly sexy about anything you're saying.
Well Bass the text describing the video previews are going to be very personal so in part that should take care of that. You have any specific suggestions to make it work better, it might not look like it, but some of this text will go with the images its placed next too.
I have seen you make the guys in sites like this sound Very Young too, so I guess I am in good company their. I did change a few things already, adding the whole Barely Legal High School Boys stuff hell if that one guy can do it and no one care I might as well. I also removed the Young Twink thing, and replaced it with Young Dudes I think that does sound less CP and fits better