Prideaccess.com SPONSOR BAD NEWS!!

BEWARE Prideaccess.com
This sponsor is TROUBLE!

A. the sponsor approached me and was quite pushy about me promoting their content on my group of sites....
The sponsor never said anything boo about there being any cost involved just was eager to get me setup and promoting for them so I did - as I trade traffic with the owner of the damn place I figured hes an honest engine had good trade relations with him over a year!!

B. Sponsor builds a nice page for me to promote and provided like 8 galleries to promo.,very nice material in fact... I took a large logo off the page he provided placed it on 9 of my archive pages - mind u my site name was on the logo and each logo had 3 links to the sponsor ON IT when I moved it and AFTER I moved it !

C. They are taking credit card numbers on a non SSL page which scares the hell outta me to even send a surfer there knowing that and I asked em to fix it they didnt ~
To make matters worse they are having hours of downtime daily which makes promoting it really difficult ~

I sent traffic via skim and from galleries and even posted the galleries to other tgps with whom I have long term relations that did not require a recip link.

I made an effort over 3 weeks to promote the program -- it didnt sell well I had like 4 signups total ....

Dude approaches me a couple days ago accusing me of stealing his logo in so many words and makes nasty remarks about sales not being high enuf ~
Firstly the day I put the logo and links on my archive pages I showed it to the fucker...
Then he informs me it cost over 100.00 to make the page he had made.... well OK but does it make a damn bit of sense to NOT make your 100.00 back ? shit might take a few more weeks but shoulda chilled and lemme get the sales up!
So in shock at his rants I said ok u know what fine --- Ill pull the program and all your material immediately go ahead with cancelling my acct...
Mind u no payment for the sales I did get with the company either nothing not a penny!!
THEN he kills trades with my sites that are operating with 90-100 hit forces per hour and just stops returning traffic without so much as a peep about it from his ass.........

Santeria has gone AWOL ........ I dunno who replaced TIM but this is not the man I have had a good working arrangement with for the last year!
He fucked a good friendship good trades and looks like a complete fucking asshole now to me!

Save yourself time effort and anger AVOID PRIDEACCESS.COM and its sponsor program !

I don't really need to go into how big of an idiot ProCam is, most people already know that.

But, I'll just clear this up quick.

ProCam and I traded maybe 1k/day of traffic with my site, skeezy.com, and we had a decent relationship. We have been going around creating archives for big site owners such as gaymoviedome.com and all his sites, gaybeef.com, welovecock.com, etc... and we made one for pretty much anyone else that wanted one.

One day I contacted ProCam and asked if he would like to try us out and he said yes so we made an archive for him. Now these archives cost us money, but it's not a big deal, this is not what this was about. When he got the archive he took the top of it and put it on all of his archive pages and linked a very small link on it to our join page and also made a link on our graphic going back to his main page. Now this looked like he was using it for a logo, which he was, no matter what he said. Now I didn't even care that he was doing this.

He only did a few sales with horrible ratios so I contacted him one day asking if we could make him a banner or even a hosted movie series to put on his main page so we could get some more traffic from him, he said no.

Then I ask him if he could try sending more signups, we make these archives for people for FREE and everyone is extremely happy with them because they convert amazingly well. This guy tells me he's been sending SKIM TRAFFIC FROM HIS TGP and he's expecting the ratios to be good. So all in all he tells us that he doesn't like the way I'm talking to him for whatever reason and he tells me to delete his account and that what I did. Then a gallery submitter tells me today he has all prideaccess galleries blacklisted on his tgp, so then I go on my mgps and delete all his trades, I want nothing to do with him. And he ends up going to the boards and making this BS post. Most people know this guy is crazy, just ask Welovecock.com :)

Anyway, let me post the icq conversation for you guys too.

SaNteria:
hey, you gonna promote your PA site more? it seems you just using it as a logo now

ProCam:
my traffics down this last 10 days as if u cant tell that u cancelled one of my trades ~ But if its a problem for you I will discontinue promoting it

SaNteria:
well we spent over $100 making that archive, other webmasters are heavily promoting their sites

ProCam:
and I did put the galleries into my sites that you gave me last week

SaNteria:
it would still be nice if you could put it on your main page somewhere, or we could setup a movie series for you similar to gaymoviedome and all his sites

ProCam:
dude I have it set into my tm3 to force hourly traffic to it

thats just the same as being on the main page

SaNteria:
that traffic won't send sales

ProCam:
u know what - I really didnt appreciate the remark u made u make it sound like im taking advantage of u or something - I been trying to promote it but I dont have the fucking 100k a day that Gaymoviedome and zentz has ~ just cancel my account Ill pull the links man ~ sorry to have been such a bother - I been trying but leaning on me when traffics low and making me feel guilty wont make more traffic

SaNteria:
ok

ProCam:
I never seen a sponsor make such statements wow~

SaNteria:
i've never had an affiliate who took advantage of us... we didn't make you a logo, we made you a site that costed us money

ProCam:
I put that on every archive page with your links trying to better promote u

ProCam:
if u felt that was wrong u shoulda told me the day i ASKED u about it

SaNteria:
the only link on that logo is a small one, and a link on it is going to your main page


Anyway, just by reading that you can tell this guy is retarded or something. So we're just gonna change the title on his archive now and give it to another webmaster, if anyone wants it hit me up on icq. I guarantee this converts good, ask all the big gay tgp/mgp owners that SEND US TRAFFIC and don't rip us off.

The message archive is accurate except that you left out a few important things -

1. Taking credit cards on a non ssl page is a very awful thing to do to your surfers ! http://www.prideaccess.com/signup.ph...ideaccess.com/

Which is part of the reason your shit doesnt convert well !

2. You forgot to really address the cause there I do not deny blacklisting prideaccess - I did - and for good reason you were well aware and proved that by posting the archive u did that I used the logo to promote your program and you are LYING it had 3 links on it dont make me post it up here and show what a liar u are I have all the files archived on my local drive -

3. Even if I did blacklist prideaccess which I did - u had no good cause to kill trades over a year old that were in good standing and NOT talk to me for any reason except that you are being a bitch and it wasnt 1k a day it is 1600 a day according to my tm3 script not to mention all the other sites I have that u trade with which now sit idle because of your poor judgement .
You went off half cocked and made accusations that appear to state I stole something from you I did not .
I showed u the archive pages with your logo the day I did it you cannot deny it if it was a problem you shoulda told me then not after the fact.

Factoid is - you have made a very bad judgement call in this matter one I am willing to forgive and move forward - reactivate our trades and forget this matter if you will just say two words "I'm Sorry" and Ill happily say the same with genuine meaning behind it - we been friends too long - the prideaccess thing didnt work out bad for you I guess despite the fact I was trying and thats that!

So lettuce see how much of a man you are can you make an apology and move on and we will just delete this threads content and forget it ?

Greetings:

Yay, drama from people no one here even knows! Someone with 29 posts and someone with 1 post.

Two thumbs up for both making each other look like a jackass:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by JustMe

Greetings:

Yay, drama from people no one here even knows! Someone with 29 posts and someone with 1 post.

Two thumbs up for both making each other look like a jackass:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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:turban: Justme not everyones a board troll like u man - I read all yer posts I just dont say nothing its more entertaining to be silent and listen sometimes !!

Greetings:

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Originally Posted by procam

Justme not everyones a board whore like u man

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A board whore? Me? Bitch you best back off.....

:whip:

Troll TROLL board TROLL hahaha the correct word is board troll ~ yer always on the board man always u live here :turban:

Greetings:

OK, ProCam cybersexored me over ICQ, so we're cool again.

:groovy:

Hi procam. I moved this thread to the main forum because it really didn't have anything to do with content, specifically. :)

Thanks sorry as I dont post here often I wasnt sure where to put it -
Its just a sad bad day all the way around - Lost a sponsor I thought was gonna rock - a friend and a good trade partner how fucked up ~
Appreciate yer moving the thread to the right place tho ~

Two sponsors have already approached me to get me to use them so some good came out of it and they promised never to harass their affiliates :P

Where's the fucking Jiffy Pop when you need it?

Ok..carry on! lol

ProCam, I'm not going to appologize when I did nothing wrong.

I tried to help you as I try to help everyone, you told me to delete your account. I did.

You blacklisted prideaccess from your site. I blacklisted your sites from mine.

You send me angry icqs telling me you posted this shit on gfy. I put you on ignore and deleted you from my icq.

I want nothing to do with you now. I don't need your traffic, I don't need your trades, I don't need your bullshit. Goodbye.

Oh, and for people who don't know me.

I own
http://www.lovethecock.com (biggest clean tgp/mgp out there)
http://www.skeezy.com
http://www.igotgays.com/main.shtml

And I'm also big in straight, I don't wanna try and get into everything I do there though ;)

I'll try and start posting here more too :)

Okie dokie and there u have it ~ not man enuf to face up to your mistake -
You harassed your affiliate - you endanger your surfers credit card numbers - not to mention I forgot this but I had to do a lot of work translating the pages you had built to english cause they were in a forgein language -
Prideaccess will remain blacklisted indefinitely now that you have decided to take that position and so will all of your sites - I can survive just fine without your traffic as well - its a damn shame you hafta act like a 2 year old but by all means take your coloring books and your aol page maker and go home!

But be assured this aint over - you cheated me and did me bad - when you do bad things to people it WILL come back to you ...
A wise man once told me

"Treat everyone good on your way UP ......... You may meet them on your way DOWN!!"

He was very right in that statement -- and I was very right in mine for trying to resolve this with you and be a man and apologize to you and expect one from you as well for your mistakes.


SLADE ~
Jiffy Pop Indeed I had to google that to find out wtf it was - :P - guess imma microwave addict ~
U know jiffy pop has soybean oil = trans fats damn slade I hope ya eatin yer oatmeal every morning ~

Haha, yeah procam, I look like a baby.

I've gotten about 10 icqs so far from webmasters you know telling me how stupid you just made yourself look.

I'm not going anywhere here, I make a living off this biz, and a damn fine one at that. And it's not by fucking people over, it's by helping them, which I tried to do with you but obviously you're too dumb to see that. Help yourself right now and shut up while you're ahead.

Enuf ranting ........... its pointless -

You dont see the error in your ways - and I will not accept your version of the truth as it is flawed !

sufficed to say prideaccess.com cheated me kept my payout - made me work to rebuild their pages into english
harassed me about sluggish sales and continues to take credit card numbers on non ssl pages which BTW violates your MAC agreement for taking cards - perhaps you better fix that before you lose the ability to take cards in case someone reports it .
Now do you wanna go on being a witch with me or u wanna walk away and leave it there? You will not make me out to be the villan here I didnt do this.

I actually took your advice and we're adding the SSL.

About your payment, If you want to get technical, we spent around $200 to make your archive, plus gallery templates, plus hosted galleries. So since you made $30 so far, you can just pay me the $170 whenever you get a chance. All other webmasters made $200 within the first days of putting our ads up (we don't take the $200 either, this whiney little boy just wants to get technical), but then again they already knew they had to put ads up and not send skim traffic from their tgp, lol

Oh, and you didn't reach the minimum payout either.

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Originally Posted by procam

Enuf ranting ........... its pointless -
made me work to rebuild their pages into english

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Heaven forbid you had to do some work, our designer doesn't speak english so he fills up the page with some text. We were gonna give you this design for FREE, those gallery templates for FREE. Did you want us to submit galleries and run all your sites for you too?

This is my last post on this subject, I don't want to fill up this good board with anymore of procam's bullshit.

If anyone else wants an archive built for them, let me know. We actually already had 3 webmasters request one since procam started this, I guess I should thank him?

How misguided you are - I had to clobber you over the head and all but call visa and mc to make u put up an SSL -- ok good im glad yer doing the right thing there....

For someone who dont wanna talk to me yer making a good effort here and thats appreciated. {I think}

Now I wasnt JUST sending u skim traffic - you were also getting traffic to the gallery pages u provided me - and I know for a fact signups cause I saw one the day you cancelled me -
In any event - In the future I would caution you about the way you do things - and you have twice changed the price of this work you had done btw - first it was 150 then 100 now its 200 so I tend to think whatever indian you had build it prolly charged you 50 bucks and they spit it out quick cause it wasnt even in english man I had to change it around..
So less my design time fees of 65.00 for the hour....
and compensation for all the hours of downtime you had over 3 weeks 100.00 {sounds fair} even the back bitter whos msgin u on icq saying I shouldnt have said nothing hes two faced man cause hes ranting about yer downtime too..... So chill ..

And my time for posting all these posts to make u realize u were RUDE evil and downright thoughtless of someone who really has worked with you for a long time Ill just charge u 5.00 for that .

Lets call it even - Have a good life but know this It will not be forgotten !

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Originally Posted by SaNteria

Heaven forbid you had to do some work, our designer doesn't speak english so he fills up the page with some text. We were gonna give you this design for FREE, those gallery templates for FREE. Did you want us to submit galleries and run all your sites for you too?

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Free so there it is its FREE - yet you felt it necessary to throw it in my face how much it cost yet you were giving it to me for FREE .... do you see what caused the problem here ?

You NEVER shoulda harassed me about it and thrown your costs in my face - as a sponsor what you elect to GIVE away is your choice - if yer costs are too high ADAPT - there are designers who can make pages much cheaper than what yer paying!

No costs are too high for me here... i didn't start this program being poor... i think you've seen my stats before.

Anyway I'm done with you man, good luck on your biz.

[QUOTE=SaNteria]No costs are too high for me here... i didn't start this program being poor... i think you've seen my stats before.QUOTE]

Yes I have and coming from someone who pulls down in excess of 35k a month thats what shocked the hell outta me the most the fact that you had to be such a jerk over 100 or 200 bucks and wreck a long term trade and friendship man I woulda moved the world for u in traffic if it was within my power - u had my respect and u were worthy of it once upon a time but no more....

Good Luck !

Greetings:

God damn you two are STILL at it? I can smell the sexual tension from here...

Why don't you just fuck each other and get it over with?

:wacko:

No actually I think its over now we both spoke our minds -

He learned how not to treat folks -

I learned what Jiffy Pop is and how bad it is for yer heart in between posts -

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Originally Posted by procam

I learned what Jiffy Pop is and how bad it is for yer heart in between posts -

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Not half as bad as this thread is getting on our hearts.
Geez guy..there's a duplicate almost to the letter on GFY.

Idea: Take it to EMAIL! I think "we" get the idea from all concerned.