I am the only one who feels...

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06-18-2005, 09:26 PM
MiamiB

I am the only one who feels...

that we are about to get fucked and with out a kiss...I mean...seems to me that the BIG GUYS are silent about the whole thing and that normally means that they have nothing to worry about. Think about it...a law that is designed to make complience impossible for 90% of the competetion...yet they have "friends" and lawyers to assure they THEY are OK.

Can't you guys see the wrtiting on the wall...Child Protection...sure...so the public will have no problems with it...naturally with the current in the country this will not be questioned.

The little guy is being fucked and since porn webmasters are "pervert's" anyway who is going to say anything.

Yes, the sky IS falling and we are being FUCKED by those we made RICH!

LEE
06-18-2005, 09:28 PM
Squirt

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Originally Posted by MiamiB

Yes, the sky IS falling and we are being FUCKED by those we made RICH!

LEE

I haven't made anyone rich LOL
06-18-2005, 09:33 PM
MiamiB

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Originally Posted by Squirt

I haven't made anyone rich LOL

Good for you...but most promote the assholes with big sites...therefore making them rich while making pennies. And now they are fine will we are being FUCKED.

Lee
06-18-2005, 11:36 PM
Chilihost

Lee, I have to totally disagree with you on this. In any big change there are winners and losers...but to be a winner, you just have to start thinking outside the box.

I know you are working your ass off getting your 2257 docos in order and that makes you a winner, because you are going to come thru this stronger than ever and with less competition.

And if the DOJ is going after headlines and press on 2257 closures, don't you think headlines like "DOJ puts 20 million dollar illegal porn site out of business" is better than "DOJ forces another small business to close"

cheers,
Luke
06-18-2005, 11:44 PM
Lee

Perhaps the big guys are being silent about it because they dont know what they are going to do yet?

Actually, other than Brendons Bucks, i have yet to see any gay specific sponsor make any announcements as to how they will be handling these new regulations.

Considering there are only 5 days left until these go into full effect, i personally think that is cutting it very fine and is extremely concerning not the least from an affiliate standpoint, should i still be sending traffic to my current sponsors or do i need to switch out my ads?

You would have thought some of the bigger gay specific sponsors would have mentioned something by now :eek:

Regards,

Lee
06-19-2005, 12:05 AM
basschick

MiamiB - anything is possible, but i doubt the big players want this to happen. each sucessful negative legal step toward our industry encourages the doj to attempt more.

Lee, i'm with you on this. i'd like to hear from pridebucks or intensecash or any of the folks we know on our board. after all, there's less than one week for people to get all the info input - or to find out they're not giving it out, and to delete their content.
06-19-2005, 12:13 AM
Squirt

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Originally Posted by Lee

You would have thought some of the bigger gay specific sponsors would have mentioned something by now :eek:

I'm not that big so I guess I don't have to mention anything ha ha :groovy:
06-19-2005, 12:19 AM
Lee

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Originally Posted by basschick

i'd like to hear from pridebucks or intensecash or any of the folks we know on our board. after all, there's less than one week for people to get all the info input - or to find out they're not giving it out, and to delete their content.

Im sure there are a lot of affiliates who are just 'waiting' too unfortunately.

Whilst the vast majority of sponsors on the straight side of the industry have taken a pro-active approach to informing their affiliates what changes may be happening, the only place i have heard from is Brendons Bucks on the gay side of things specifically which to me, shows a lot about the type of business those guys are running, class all the way :thumbsup:

Monday evening, im actually going to start pulling links from sponsors that we havent heard of, even though the new regulations dont effect our direct 'porn' business with it being maintained outside the US, id prefer to know that the content being used on those sites is compliant should the need ever arise to prove it.

Id rather not be kept in the dark about an issue as important as this, especially when it means *I* could end up doing jail time.

Regards,

Lee
06-19-2005, 12:38 AM
Bec

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Id rather not be kept in the dark about an issue as important as this, especially when it means *I* could end up doing jail time.

Thought I'd seen a post by you stating everything is going to your company in europe? Why would you be worried about jail time?
06-19-2005, 12:41 AM
Lee

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Originally Posted by Bec

Thought I'd seen a post by you stating everything is going to your company in europe? Why would you be worried about jail time?

Because even though our 'porn' stuff is in Europe, GWW isnt and, despite the fact we are covered by the 'advertising and media' clause of the current 2257 regs, id rather play it safer than sorrier.

Just because a model 'looks' 18 years old, it doesnt mean that they ARE 18 years old.

Regards,

Lee
06-19-2005, 12:48 AM
Squirt

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Originally Posted by Lee

Im sure there are a lot of affiliates who are just 'waiting' too unfortunately.... Id rather not be kept in the dark about an issue as important as this, especially when it means *I* could end up doing jail time.

I haven't waited. I took care of business a long time ago, and aside from getting legal advice from multiple attorneys, both here and in the U.S., my content has always been 2257 compliant since I started.

Being that I'm overseas, AND have 100% 2257 compliant content, I'm secure in my safety and that of my affiliates. I have some G rated banners, and more are on their way ( right Bec? )

I've had one affiliate ask for 2257 info. Others are either overseas, or feel as I do regarding this issue, that the new regs. are unconstitutional and will be shot down as quickly as Gonzales copied and pasted from the last regs that were shot down. :thumbsup:
06-19-2005, 01:07 AM
Bec

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I have some G rated banners, and more are on their way ( right Bec? )

Yes, dear ... :yeah:
06-19-2005, 02:04 AM
gaystoryman

Well I know CUrious Cash did mention it in their last newsletter... but yes it is interesting how silent many of the sponsors have been. Brendon Bucks was definately a heads up. ARS did send out something though I don't use them anymore... but there hasn't been much else...

Definately cutting it close.

but just my opinion
Ian
06-21-2005, 03:54 PM
neags78805

I recieved e-mail from PrideBucks Sunday evening (I think) that stated they were now in compliance with 2257. Their statement is now also in the webmaster area there.

I've closed down my site temporarily untill the storm blows over and we see which way the wind is gonna blow. Wasn't much on the site anyway except links to my sponsors. So now when anyone enters the main page they will get a "closed" notice with a link going to PrideBucks sponsor site. Hopefully that will C.M.A.! (I really need to find a tacky picture to put on that page! :gaydays: )
Check it out: http://www.queerdude.com
06-21-2005, 04:06 PM
basschick

why not put up an all-text and toon page, with plenty of relevent text to catch search engines? then your site will be working for you while you wait.

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Originally Posted by neags78805

I recieved e-mail from PrideBucks Sunday evening (I think) that stated they were now in compliance with 2257. Their statement is now also in the webmaster area there.

I've closed down my site temporarily untill the storm blows over and we see which way the wind is gonna blow. Wasn't much on the site anyway except links to my sponsors. So now when anyone enters the main page they will get a "closed" notice with a link going to PrideBucks sponsor site. Hopefully that will C.M.A.! (I really need to find a tacky picture to put on that page! :gaydays: )
Check it out: http://www.queerdude.com
06-21-2005, 04:08 PM
Lee

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Originally Posted by neags78805

(I really need to find a tacky picture to put on that page! :gaydays: )

How 'bout this?

http://www.bunnypancake.com/2257/ LOL

Regards,

Lee
06-21-2005, 06:03 PM
neags78805

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Originally Posted by Lee

How 'bout this?

http://www.bunnypancake.com/2257/ LOL

Regards,

Lee

I saw that one Lee, I didn't get it LOL! :goofy:

Kevin
06-21-2005, 11:08 PM
Slade

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Originally Posted by neags78805

Check it out: http://www.queerdude.com

Wait a minute..is that CUM on that banner you are showing!

Oopss..explicit sexual behavior if I've ever seen it!
You're going to jail NOW!

Please turn yourself in so we won't have to bother with comming after you.
I mean..everyone else is doing that so be a good boy and join the flock! lol