Does barebacking make the difference??

Another interesting discussion I thought I would bring to the board is how people feel about bareback sex! I was talking with some people who scouting for cobra and other bareback studios and I was also talking with people who do scouting , marketing etc.. with safe sex studios!! The funny thing is... People say that bareback sex it alot more profitable and people seem to like it more...(cause it kinda pushes the limits and make the porn more raw!) But I really dont find that it makes a difference! Plus Im all about safe sex anyway

what do you think and how do you feel! It would be nice to see what you guys have to say .. seeming Im planning on shooting my own content soon and I would really like to hear my friends and people I dont know thoughts on this.. and I know alot of people will say it depends on how good your marketing is etc.. But I want to know just in general how it plays a part or if it makes a difference at all!

here's a rather long and heated discussion on this very topic:
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...light=bareback

btw, since you're also in califonia, i'd advise you to talk to a local adult industry attorney. i'm sure i mention it in that thread, but california put a very hefty fine against ttboy's studio for endangering the talent by shooting barefack.

Well I have one.. and I have no plans on shooting bareback at all.. I would never put a model in danger of anything and I would never wanna see anyone get hurt!!! SAFETY IS MY NUMBER ONE RULE!! I was just wondering and that sucks that I missed out on that conversation I would have loved to be a part of it !!

you can post on the thread - this is a board. i've seen two year old threads come to life when someone found it in the search and had an opinion.

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Originally Posted by KellyTaylor

Well I have one.. and I have no plans on shooting bareback at all.. I would never put a model in danger of anything and I would never wanna see anyone get hurt!!! SAFETY IS MY NUMBER ONE RULE!! I was just wondering and that sucks that I missed out on that conversation I would have loved to be a part of it !!

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Bottom line... It sells better, but there are people who believe it promotes unhealthy behavior to those who watch it. That is certainly debatable, just like the theory that video games drive kids towards violence.

Model safety is an issue in certain cases. A bareback production does not put two boyfriends at risk who already bareback at home. However there are models who take a bareback job only because they need the extra money that is offered.

I am against offering incentives to bareback. If they want to do it, it's by their own uninfluenced choice.

I agree with what you said completly actually .. I think you hit it right on the money everything you just said.. It is kinda how I look at the whole thing as well!! I dont practice bareback sex myself ( when it is casual )

If I was with a life partner someone I had been with for awhile then I would bareback but only on those circumstance for sure!

I think ADULTS which are the people who should be only watching porn! I think adults should take responsibility for there actions and be able to make decisions for thereselves and not blame it on porn! Saying that porn made me bareback and told me it was ok! That is ridiculous! If someone is well educated about HIV/STDS and there risks etc.. I dont really think that argument could be made you know?!?! I hope I didnt say thing wrong LOL

I know a lot of gay couples fucking bareback are boyfriends, but also I see gay orgies fucking bareback, this is a high risk not only for HIV, also for all STD.

but, why is normal in straight porn fucking bareback?
the risk is the same.

I totally and completly agree with you for sure! There is alot more emphasis on gay porn I think because alot of people blame or say gay people pass HIV more which is bullshit I think and it has to do with alot of other factors but that is one of them I think!!! Alot of gay men are also really slutty!! I dont have orgies and that is not my thing.. I may be in the industry but that doesnt label me loose... I dont care what other people do with there life! that is there own thing and isnt my problem and it totally cool with me as long as know one pushes it on me!! I appreciate the male body and love men!! But I only want one man and what I mean by having bareback sex with my boyfriend .. We would have to be boyfriends for awhile and be well commited as well!!!

Much peace and Love K.Taylor

Yes it makes a giant difference in revenue at least.

Your thread prompted me to start a new one as my reply somehow turned into a tiny rant:

http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...ad.php?t=13948

BTW Kelly, when is your new site going to be live? We'd love to promote it on GUYSonVIDEO.

Which site....

Well KellyTayloronline.Com my solo site or the other ones Im working on??
That is the first one up for sure.... I have some people I really care about who are very creative and bright and best friends of mine working on other projects with me!! I would love to work with you... As far as doing promotions and such!! Please email and get in touch with me when you have some time and we can talk about further possibilitys for many different things!!!

I have some stuff Im working on right now.. That I may need some help from some other people doing as well!!

Sorry for get off the subject!!

Back to the subject at hand!!!

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Kelly Taylor!!

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Originally Posted by Seth

I've seen several recent posts regarding bareback sex and it's time I chime in on the whole bareback issue...

We film a lot of bareback videos and it is at least 80% of our revenue.

Unlike some companies, we have a strict policy of filming only committed partners and/or guys who already fuck bareback.

Our top affiliates make several thousand dollars every month promoting our bareback videos because they understand what converts and have little problem with the ethical issues because of our policies.

As we state on our disclosure page (http://barebackplace.com/safer_sex/index.htm):

"All performers engaging in bareback anal sex on this site are either committed couples and/or already engage in bareback anal sex with each partner."

Every bareback video on our sites are of committed couples who fuck bareback or are guys who already fuck bareback with each other and have no problem doing so again on video.

We have never set up two or more strangers to engage in bareback sex. With that said, we do not prominently state such. Doing so will certainly take away from the fantasy of the horny surfer.... and yes it IS about the profit. Believe me, I understand the concern regarding bareback sex among gay men but being horny is not an excuse for a legal ADULT to make irrational decisions.

Additionally, we are currently building a straight porn directory and of the thousands of sites I've seen so far, I can literally count on fewer than my hands and toes the sites that promote safer sex or at least show obvious use of condoms in their tours. I mean give me a break... How can literally 65 guys deposit their loads in one girl and that be considered safe sex.

I'm sure there will be more discussion regarding this topic as it seems to be a never ending controversy...

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See I had thought that was the case.. I mean look at cobra they sell tons of videos and it seems like it very high in demand,.... Im a big fan of a thing called Karma so sometimes things can kinda get to me.. Cause Im so sensitive.. But Im open to opinions and I think you make a very valid one!! SETH!! There is many different ways to approach the situation and subject and believe you have brang up a good arguement from reading your thread!!

K.Taylor

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Model safety is an issue in certain cases. A bareback production does not put two boyfriends at risk who already bareback at home. However there are models who take a bareback job only because they need the extra money that is offered.

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True however, it DOES put the production studio at risk.

Regards,

Lee

it's not - not in the u.s. most porn companies who are shooting it are going to canada or even brazil. but a lot of what you see is older, too.

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Originally Posted by webnet

but, why is normal in straight porn fucking bareback?
the risk is the same.

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Thats true I have seen that alot as well..

Now I dont know alot about barebacking and laws and such ( Im somewhat educated on 2257 but only the stuff that concerns me and my interests are always looked out for by abunch of people who I know ,, know there shit and are very intelligent ) .. But can a studio get in troubleor be held liable for something bad happening with the model.... concerning barebacking??

I mean Im a big fan of rimming ( That is my favorite thing to do!) Not so much oral but you could say that bolth of those things are very unsafe!! Oral you still get pre cumm etc.. in your mouth and rimming is unsafe as well to a certain degree there is alot to argue here... I mean I think alot of peoples focus is on HIV and you wanna get that techinical then! Syphillus and other such things Like Hep C which are easier to catch bolth very dangerous and can be very harmful are easier catched!!!

I mean there is alot of variables and almost to many to weigh out to a certain degree because one good point can always be argued by another good point correct!! I always find things I dont agree with but I still go! Ok I see there point and they have a great arguement and leave myself open for different things.. That is what makes me grow and learn and If I know someone is educated and passionate about what they are saying not just blowing something out of there ass!! Cause they heard someone else say it or they just heard it somewhere or read it somewhere then Im all ears and willing to listen and maybe except there point of view!!

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Originally Posted by basschick

it's not - not in the u.s. most porn companies who are shooting it are going to canada or even brazil. but a lot of what you see is older, too.

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We haven't shot a bareback scene in California in a very long time. I'd give the exact date but it's 2AM and don't feel like looking it up, forgive me ;)

We have some coming up in Vancouver, so I guess we're part of that whole Canadian thing... We actually almost moved there before relocating to San Diego from Denver. We're actually considering it again since SD is really not our style. But that's a whole other topic.

i have a friend who does amateur shoots in canada - well, he's a canadian. when he first started shooting girls, they were all getting work with name pornstars (i seem to recall that peter north was one) and they were VERY excited. turns out that all the pornstars shooting there were doing bareback and were having trouble doing it here.

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Originally Posted by Seth

We haven't shot a bareback scene in California in a very long time. I'd give the exact date but it's 2AM and don't feel like looking it up, forgive me ;)

We have some coming up in Vancouver, so I guess we're part of that whole Canadian thing... We actually almost moved there before relocating to San Diego from Denver. We're actually considering it again since SD is really not our style. But that's a whole other topic.

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I really wanna move to canada and I have a ton of people I have scouted up there I would love to shoot.. But I wouldnt go up there to shoot bareback porn even if it is easier to shoot it up there..

But anyways thanks everyone .. got getting back to me about this.. LOL I really didnt know it converted better.. It is nice to know what everyone thinks without and arguements etc.. I appreciate the info for sure!!!

Anyone please feel free to leave there opinions

K.Taylor

P.s.
Does anyone know of any rimming sites with completly exclusive content and a very extensive collection.. that is twink???

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Originally Posted by KellyTaylor

I agree with what you said completly actually .. I think you hit it right on the money everything you just said.. It is kinda how I look at the whole thing as well!! I dont practice bareback sex myself ( when it is casual )

If I was with a life partner someone I had been with for awhile then I would bareback but only on those circumstance for sure!

I think ADULTS which are the people who should be only watching porn! I think adults should take responsibility for there actions and be able to make decisions for thereselves and not blame it on porn! Saying that porn made me bareback and told me it was ok! That is ridiculous! If someone is well educated about HIV/STDS and there risks etc.. I dont really think that argument could be made you know?!?! I hope I didnt say thing wrong LOL

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Hear hear! I completely agree with this opinion.

Personally, I enjoy watching bareback porn. I think it's very hot. It is sex the way that sex is MEANT to be had. There's nothing hotter than having sex that is completely free from constrictions and totally uninhibited.

That said, I do feel that bareback porn companies should do everything in their power to educate people on the risks in having unprotected sex. I think they should do more than just have text scroll up their screens in the beginnings of their movies. I think they should film really interesting, hot PSAs that could be shown right before the movie starts. Something with quick editing and which is entertaining, something people may actually watch.

However, in the end, like ALL porn (yeah, even the stuff that I find to be potentially harmful to the gay community), the responsibility lies upon the viewer to make the safest choices. It's not OK to blame your actions on a porn movie. I fully believe in the survival of the fittest. If you make the CHOICE to participate in unprotected sex, then you must face whatever consequences are coming to you. That's called taking responsibility for your actions and your choices. Gay men today are educated enough to know the risks. Even kids from small towns today know that unprotected sex may lead to HIV infection.

"Porn made me do it" is not an adequate excuse in my eyes. Just like people who smoke have no right to sue cigarette companies if they get cancer.

Very good.. Outlook Ken.. Thanks for responding I always love seeing your responses they are very diplomatic and assertive ( str8 to the point with no bullshit) Well spoken as well I would like to add.. I appreciate you agreeing.. Cause I do believe to many people in this world get away with not taking responsibility for there actions and it is not right and not ok! If someone over the age of 18 doesnt feel like there an adult then dont do adult activities!

K.Taylor

P.s. I always believe as well ( To each there own! ) I always have respect for other peoples views that is what makes life fun and everyone different! Debate is always fun... Not arguing... Im glad this thread was more statement then battle cause I know this can be a touchy subject!

All I really wanted to know as well.. Which one converted better LOL... I guess I should just called people :bomb: