He used to post here a lot but I havent seen him here in a long time. Was just curious if hes still around.
Maybe hes buried in work, if so hope he's doing well.
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He used to post here a lot but I havent seen him here in a long time. Was just curious if hes still around.
Maybe hes buried in work, if so hope he's doing well.
he's been busy with "Other Projects".
Come on. I want to see someone tell the truth here. Who is going to have the guts???
er... why not you?
i'm not comfortable talking about what happened to dawgy.
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Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
Last I heard... he was in jail in Canada because of some ugly business with a minor. That was a long time ago. He may have since returned but I don't know for sure. But my friends in The Woodlands, Texas have been warned.
I have the guts:
He is a dirty child molestor and even if he HAS been released, he won't dare show his face in this community again after what happened in Canada.
I'm not talking shit, and I'm not trying t ruin anyone's reputation. Dawgy did that quite well, himself, without my two cents.
I have no tolerance for that type of behavior, expecially from one in our industry. Sorry if this offends anyone. It wasn't meant to. I just have my opinion.
Rocky
This has got to be the best answer ive seen about this topic yet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasun
From what i recall though, wasnt he going to be released? I recall someone mentioning that was the case and that he would 'be back soon'.
Regards,
Lee
How old was the minor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
14/15 i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
Regards,
Lee
to be totally fair, I don't know if we ever heard his side of the story or if he was even convicted of anything...
that kid could have lied about his age (it's happened) and Dale maybe was dumb enough to not check his ID.
I liked him and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.. but if it turns out that there's even SOME truth to it, then yes... throw him to the dawgs.
True enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasun
It could have been a photo shoot gone wrong or, not i dont think we'll ever find out.
BTW Ken,
Heres a link where you can find a little more info, the kid was 14.
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...e+eric+beckham
Regards,
Lee
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Originally Posted by Lee
Yeah, damn, that's pretty young. 16/17 -- depending on your age -- is not nearly as bad, if the age difference is only by a few years (like if the "culprit" is only 19 or 20), but if you're an older guy and you're sleeping with 14/15 year-olds, you've got some issues to look into. You should know better.
Least we all forget jerkofffboys.com Kevin:
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInma...onID=526717970
http://www.livegaytv.com/images/B01002.jpg
15 will get ya 30 fer sure.
oh my God, I really didnt know. I thought he switched industries or something.
That shit really creeps me out. I wish I didnt ask.
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Originally Posted by Lee
Hmmm, interesting. So, by Canadian law, he didn't really do anything "wrong."
I'm sure Dale wasn't the only one responsible for what happened in this situation. I doubt the kid didn't realize that Dale was slightly older than him.
Remember that in Greek and Roman days, older men with younger boys was the norm. Maybe Dale was just initiating the kid the old fashioned way? Haha.
I'm kidding, obviously, but my views on this kind of thing are much more lenient than those of others. I don't believe in pedophilia by any means, but I do acknowledge that teenage kids can actively and with sound minds (for their age) consent to sex with pretty much any one they damn well choose to. I've posted this before, but when I was 12, I propositioned several older men. I even got into "trouble" for it when I was 14. I was a randy kid, and I didn't want to have sex with any of my boring friends. I wanted a daddy! :)
Did anyone ever see the movie For a Lost Soldier? It's a beautiful film on this subject.
Not that I condone the behavior by any means (Dale was old enough to have known better, unless he was duped into it by the kid, who may have lied about his age and called the cops just to get someone in trouble; shit can happen), but I think it's important to remember that these kids aren't always the victims that society pinpoints them as. There are some hellions out there who know exactly what they are doing when they get into stuff like this. Are they mentally competent in their teenage years? Perhaps not. But there are two sides to every story, and it would be interesting to hear what Dale had to say about this.
Just my $.02.
That actually really bothers me. What he does or doesn't do in his personal life is one issue, but shooting a 14 years for commercial purposes is WRONG and can get a lot of people in trouble, not just the photographer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Just to clarify a few things about the age of consent in Canada... as it is relevent to why he isn't or was't charged with a sex crime.
The Government elected to place the age of consent at 14 to avoid the attempt by irate parents to punish their kids who had consentual sex with an older person, ie someone say who was 15 having sex with someone 16 or even 17. It was not nor is meant to be a case of older men Dale's age being allowed to have sex, but that is the downside to the law.
It was enacted because our governement recognized that teenagers are sexually active and that a hormone crazed teenager at 16 or 17 or 18 isn't going to think about such things. By placing the limit at 14, the hope was to remove the notion that parents could get back at the fiend who deflowered their precious innocent.
Secondly it was to avoid labelling such a juvenile as a sex offender for the rest of their life because some irate parent conned a prosecutor or some prosecutor decided to make a name for themself.
At the present time our brand of republicans are attempting to use that case and others as a reason for increasing the age to 16, there by once again creating the situation the law was designed to eliminate. It isn't perfect but at least we here are trying to accept reality. Kids have sex, we know it and the responsibility has to lie with the parents and not the court system to deal with over active teenage hormones. Hey, least that was the reason then.
As for the case regarding Dale, there were other charges levied according to the articles, which are supposed to cover those cases such as this one.
Anyhow, just some of the reasoning behind the 14 age limit.
I do not believe Dawgy got into this situation by accident--from what I hear this was Dawgy finally get caught. As a former prosecutor, I know that nobody ever got caught doing something--anything--stealing, drunk driving, lighting fires, or soliciting young boys for sex--the first time they did it [except MAYBE murder].
My question is, "How many times did he do this with young boys and NOT get caught??"
Iowa has a graduated system--where the age of consent is "kind of" 14. If you are 14 or 15 years old, you can have sex with someone who is up to 4 years older than you. If you are 16 or 17, it was up to 6 years older than you. If you are 18, then you are an adult and can sleep with anybody willing.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaystoryman
A 14 year old having sex with an 18 year old is fine, but a 14 year old and 22 year old is statutory rape. That allows for the sexual exploration of youth but criminalizes preying on youngsters. I thought that was a good compromise solution.
My 2 cents... I bet Dawgy was WELL aware that the age of consent in Canada is 14. I bet he planned many trips to Canada for the purpose of sex with minors. This makes him a sexual predator in my mind. I'd be interested in knowing what his travel itinerary was before he got caught.
I disagree that he could have been fooled into thinking the 14yo was 18.
We're talking about someone who hung around guys 10, 12 years younger than himself. Someone who worked extensively with and shot twink porn. Such a person would know exactly what a legit 18yo looks like. An 8th grader just isn't going to pass.
You put a younger looking 18yo up against an older looking 14yo, they still aren't going to match.
I wonder too. I think this is something that should be of concern to Canadians. I wouldn't like my country to become a tourist destination for people looking kids, like Thailand and other countries in the Far East have become.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
That system set up in Iwoa makes a lot of sense really.
This is the first time that we as moderators have allowed this subject to be discussed.. enough time, I guess.
I know a few things about the case, but I'm not an expert... I've seen plenty of kids who were 18 that looked younger and plenty of 14 year olds who looked a LOT older.
he may have been duped and he may be guilty.
Until I get all the facts, I won't crucify him.
I should also add that Rainey thought I was 26.
I'm 38.
so if she can be wrong by 12 years, maybe he was wrong by 2.
I'm with Jasun. I think I'll stay out of this conversation from here on out. It's simply not my place to judge until I know the facts.
Lol, it's not my place to judge either. But sometimes I just can't help it dammit!
Dawgy did not get caught by accident or mistake. He was lucky to have made it that long before getting caught diddling little boys. If a few more would come public, Dawgy would have more arrest warrants awaiting him after his release.
It is good that this topic is being discussed. Predators and pedophiles have no place in the adult industry--we should make every effort to exclude known offenders and one way to do that is through public disclosure.
I don't think it matters what the age of consent is in Canada, I believe I read at the time that many, if not most, U.S. jurisdictions have laws in place that prevent citizens from travelling to a foreign country simply to avoid age of consent laws in their own country.
I know with Canadian law, we must adher to our own age of consent laws regardless of where we're travelling.
Cheers
Michael