i have this gallery
http://pierrefitchonline.com/pierretgp/adv.html
i get like 3000 too 5000 hits a day on it and mabey 3 sign ups what a I doing wrong ... and it's from all good tgp sites
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i have this gallery
http://pierrefitchonline.com/pierretgp/adv.html
i get like 3000 too 5000 hits a day on it and mabey 3 sign ups what a I doing wrong ... and it's from all good tgp sites
Tgp have really poor traffic. People normally just go to them for free stuff. 1 out of a 1000 is not really that bad for a tgp
The best traffic is AVS traffic, still kinda sad mancheck dose not like my sites after 5 years now :(
and what do you want me to do on mancheck with my site
well mancheck is just the only AVS I care about that will not take my sites now. you can get 4000 hits a day from 1 site on a tgp? what tgp would that be? I would start off by making a site to submit to All of the AVS systems
Also your a really good looking guy man, but you might want to watch what you say in our vids. If a guy is to out there it kinda takes away from the action. You can be really donate or submissive but sleazy dose not sale as well. But hell maybe thats just me. Best words in a twink video are “I have never really done this before” or “stop I don’t know if I should do this”
watch what i say in your vids never done a vid for you LOL
not sure why you did a hybrid gallery - hope you don't post it at tgps as you'll burn a lot of extra bandwidth.
and i get on average 3000 - 5000 uniques to my gallery to make a sale. sending hits to a bad site or having a bad gallery can make it take 10,000 - 15,000 to make one sale.
the thing to do is to get more traffic to your galleries, but having those sample movies on it makes things more expensive. on the other hand, you don't have enough pics to submit this to most tgps as it has less than the required number of pics, so you have a problem on your hands as i'm not sure that an mgp will post a hybrid gallery with so many thumbs above the movie thumbs.
Well that’s true I am really not ready to start making exclusive movies yet, but you have a really good str8 guy look I think we could do allot better :)Quote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch1
Hey man like 1 hour after I talked to you last night Bjorn from gaydemon e-mailed me about a preview to my members site. I hope you will put in a good word for me :) BTW I really dont use TGP's ya its kinda a waist of bandwidth but maybe I should give them a shot. What do you think are some of the best I can use a free-host with?Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
TGPs... how shall I put this? ...
TGPs take the Soviet approach to producing results. Volume, volume, volume. Rather than technical superiority or superiority with regards to the quality and capabilities of its personnel and equipment, sheer overwhelming numbers are what it relied on. People and equipement were expendable resources, and by directing massive numbers of each towards an objective, despite heavy losses, enough would eventually make it through. The contributions made by individuals were slim to none, but by having so many poorly-contributing individual elements, the end result of their collective effort would be satisfactory.
See where I'm going with that? Besides off on a totally unrelated tangent and speaking loads of gibberish... lol
1/1000 off of a TGP isn't bad. TGPs can produce for affiliates and sponsors alike some pretty good numbers, if and when significant volumes of traffic are involved. Massive amounts.
So keep trading traffic with other TGPs, building up a big base of bookmarkers and inbound traffic, maybe direct a good chunk of that to a better-producing site you have (like your own personal paysite, for example. That way, even if you're not referring a direct sale, you've at least made that surfer aware of your own site so that they might come back to you in the future as opposed to a sponsor in the future that you might not get any credit off of a sale for [cookie expiration] after a certain point... advertising your paysite to your TGP surfers), and be content with 1/1000. :)
I think Pierre's quite well-enough established now as one of the most eager performers in gay porn that he need not worry about stuff like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by nomad0023
This enthusiasm is one of his most endearing qualities and one of the things that has made him as popular as he is. Trying to play it straight now, after his eagerness and enthusiasm (not to mention face, body and ass) have made him in to a headlining performer, Falcon movie cover model, and one of the best known performers in gay porn today, wouldn't do much good. IMO.
basschick = female :DQuote:
Originally Posted by nomad0023
Thanks sorry I guess I really don’t watch to much adult porn man. I really did not know who he was, I am sure most of you guys know allot more about this stuff than me. :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by CorbinFisher_BD
Well I just assumed, I guess I should not do that, I really did not look at “her” profile. It must be really rare to have a female gay adult webmasterQuote:
Originally Posted by Takemytaco
Looks like NE is going to lose to Denver 6 to 17 in the 4th:hmmph:
i don't recommend you use a free host for galleries at all - i wouldn't.
btw, there are several female webmasters of gay sites on this board and many more working with programs.
thank you, dahlink ;)
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Originally Posted by Takemytaco
See I really did not know about the female webmaster thing its not an insult or at least I was not trying to be insulting. Like I have said before I guess I have really never talked to other adult webmaster, maybe I should watch what I say :( As far as the free host thing, I have made both kinds of sites, and I really have not see less sales from the free host I use. I know that gaydemon dose not like them, but there is a loop hole in that too “hosted domains” Its just that its hard to make enough money now days I really have to watch every thing I spend. I really do wish you would put in a word for me I could use all the help I can get :)
Thanx corbin for this
i think i will be going with Braincash very soon .. i'am going to be talking to them on thursday or friday will go and have a coffee with them ..
me and my husband Ralph Woods will probably do a action site together
like the married couples website
of just me and him..
your best bet is to pay a gallery maker to make you some galleries that will get better results, then pay for hosting and get them posted everywhere. your free hosted sites are sending plenty of hits - to your free hosts' sponsors.
btw, you don't seem to have a link to your affiliate program in your sig. wouldn't that be a good step in marketing it?
i wasn't offended, btw - but i am a female ;)
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Originally Posted by nomad0023
Yeah but
I know the company Braincash could make me some really good money i know they could promote the hell out of me
but i could also do like to say .. pay someone to do me some tgp gallery's
yes your right i should add my affiliate program to my sig
http://pierre-fitch.com/affiliated/b...ffiliated.html
Here it is hehe
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Originally Posted by basschick
Well as far as I have seen I have better galleries sites that 90% of the other webmasters around, and I really can not pay to have someone do that I am not rich. The free host I use has as their only advertisement a “pocket pussy” I do not have adult toys so that has really not been a big problem. The sad fact is that people are just signing up allot less often as they did 4 years ago or so, I have to do what I can. The reason I did not post my affiliate program was I did not really want to be seen as pushing my stuff on other webmaster. I really just wanted to learn as much as I can from you guys and girls :). I am glad I did not ofend you I kinda have a bad habit of doing that.
NE has lost 27-13 to Denver
You know I have to make 6-12 new gallery sites every week, gaydemon accepts most of them. I really don’t think paying someone to do that would really be a good idea. I really might look in to this TGP thing again and the str8 sites you talked about. What do you think would be the best places to start with that?
not rich? i pay around $15 per gallery i have made, and i have never paid more than $25 per gallery, although i HAVE paid as little as $10 each. you don't have to be rich to pay $60 - $100 for templates...
a lot of people never do learn to make galleries that sell, so it's sometimes risky as far as bandwidth. do you know what your gallery CTR (click through ratio) is?
no basschick i don't know how to check for the ratio ..
you know someone who can make gallery for 10 to 15 bucks send them over to me icq 54844331
I have PM you a list of some of the sites I have listed with gaydemon, Can you show me some examples of the sites you are talking about? But 400$ a month is something I would have to recoup, all my work as to be profitable. I pay over 3000.00$ a month just for content for my members site, hell I dont even have a phone, all my money goes back into my work. I really can not sole a problem by throwing money at it, I have seen these “template sites” that directories make on justusboys ECT. banner ads and a white background are not going to help me. I have sites listed in just about ever major gay directory and AVS in the world. I only ever have problems with the few of them that like to list their own sites more than mine.
well if you have PM me i don't see anything in my inbox
Sorry man I was not really talking you, but I will send you the list too. Please keep in mind these are just what I call “dummy sites” Let me know what you think, I really try to do something different with allot of them with out burring my expensive contentQuote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch1
Pierre, your gallery doesn't have good proactive links to your site. As basschick will tell you, it never hurts to have big "CLICK HERE for more blah blah" links on your galleries. Tell the surfer what they need to do or they simply won't do it. You would be better off using links like "More" and not "Join" on a gallery. Your goal with a gallery is to send traffic to your tour not make them join your site. Let the site tour do the selling.
It doesn't do any good to put your biggest link "Join Pierre Fitch Online" at the top of the page because once the surfer gets past that link, they aren't going to go back to the top to join. All of your other links are vague and way to small. Plus the Times New Roman font is a really old-fashioned looking font to use on a gallery... use a bolder font and upsize it quite a bit.
Grey is a dismal color to use as a background. Actually grey is fine but it would look better if you put the gallery onto a table in a complimentory color like dark red, navy blue or black.
Another thing you can do to learn how to make better galleries is to go to a big TGP and look around. Paid spots on the big TGP's can be good examples of effective marketing. Also get ideas from the other listed galleries.
Xstr8guy
what you would write to get customers to join my site in your gallery i will try and make better
Just be more enticing... such as "Click HERE to see more pics and videos of Falcon's newest and hottest porn star". Be proactive... tell the surfer what to do and get them horny and curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch1
He said my free sites look "Too flashy" I think thats a first for me:wtf:
Or just “Click-Here to See More of Me” A banner would be nice too
LOL
does this look better
http://pierrefitchonline.com/pierretgp/adv.html
You are on the right track! Try putting the whole thing in a table around 760px wide so the text doesn't spread out to the edge of the screen.
Also, be careful when changing galleries after they have been listed... it could get you blacklisted. Most TGPs crawl all of the listed sites to make sure that the galleries aren't changed. This prevents submitters from cheating.
You do need a table but I think 1 line of text would look best
there i think it looks ok now
Pierre,
Stupid question but, why arent you selling yourself?
It just seems to me like it would be a much easier sell if you told the surfers hitting these galleries that YOU actually put the gallery online and you are the guy they are going to see in the pics and movies.
I could way off base here though.
Regards,
Lee
i'am selling my self lol those pictures are me