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Hi
this person has sign to my program like 1 day in a half ago
X3 Online Media
this is what he sent me since 1 day in a half to my website
3092 X3 Online Media 5 sale(s) out of 312 click(s) 1.60 % 62.40 clicks per sale
the website he signed up with was http://x3om.com/ but there is nothing there i e-mailed him but no response i think this is the best ratio i have seen...
I would not worry too much about it. At least not initially... Check your logs to see where the traffic is actually coming from.
We often have affiliates sign up who list a site that is non-existant or under construction and send a good amount of sales from their other site(s) that never result in refunds or chargebacks.
Again, I'd say check your logs/stats program to see where the sales are actually coming from. Of course you can always Email the affiliate for more info.
You should wait a couple of weeks before you get too excited about this guys traffic for a few reasons, New programs sell really well the first few days then drop off, it could just be a lucky fluke that he’s numbers looked that good “after all it was only 1 ½ days” ECT. But a sale is a sale so that’s always good.
if you have good traffic sources sending you traffic (by good, i mean traffic sources like gaydemon and justusboys) and suddenly a newcomer starts sending traffic that is converting much better than your other affiliates, i think it bears looking into. twice this happened to us and both times they ended up being fraudulent signups from a webmaster using stolen credit cards.
http://x3om.com/ doesn't exist - it's just a placemarker - and the domain itself is only a few days old. also the domain info doesn't give a name, address or anything that is legally required. it says his zip code is 11111.
http://www.directnic.com/whois/?query=x3om.com
if you don't hear back from him and can't find the urls sending the traffic, talk to your processor's fraud department. his traffic could be as good as gold and he could be a great guy, but his lack of legitimate whois info, very recent domain and complete lack of website are definitely signs to keep an eye on this account's signups.
Those are some really good points I did not even think about “whois” his domain, but I don’t know about that whole justusboys stuff. That guys zip ECT dose sound very suspect, she is right you should keep a eye on him.
X3om.com has the same whois as JasonAdonis.com and PierreFitch.com
That site redirects to yours, so you must be affiliated with them in some way.
so that is the fucker who took my name pierrefitch.com i cannot get that dam domain name because he or she took it .. grrr
you sure about this mattz
PierreFitch.com omg what the fuck the guy who stoled my domain name is redirecting it to my site now
good catch, matt. and pierre says he is not affiliated - this guy signed up the domain pierrefitch.com before pierre did but he does not know him. the guy signed up for pierre's program apparently and is redirecting through his affiliate link.
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Originally Posted by Matt 26z
a new low in domain squatting. Steal the name, then get 50% of the legitimate owner's revenue.
Pierre, you might have a shot at filing a grievance with ICANN. ICANN prohibits registration of a name solely to "squat", it's considered bad faith.
Because since the guy is redirecting traffic to you, you've now got solid evidence that his intention in securing the domain was not to use it for a legitimate purpose, but only to siphon traffic from you. Might cost you a lil money to file the grievance, but if you get the name back, it won't be long before you'd make it back in increased revenues.
Boyfunk i sent out a lawyer letter to the domain company
Sounds like you might miss out on some sales but I would block that guy from my program. That’s just fucked up, I knew those numbers sounded to good to be true. So basically he is going to try to get ½ the money you make off of search engine traffic ECT I know of some movie stars that have sued to get their name back from people like that.
what a jurk he is .. i will do evreything to get my name back..
I'm gonna ban him from my site i hate poeple like this
Michael Youens
Ex falcon worker is the one who took my name pierrefitch.com
Hmmm. The plot gets thicker. The fact the guy is an ex-Falcon employee, and the fact that he also registered "jasonadonis.com" goes miles further toQuote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch
show an indication of bad faith, which is one of the primary reasons that domain disputes are successful.
Actually, sending a letter to the domain registrar won't really accomplish anything; it would seem that your attorney is unfamiliar with the specific procedure, the Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy, established by ICANN to resolves issues like this. Here are the links to the policy itself, and to providers of dispute resolution services that ICANN has partnered with to streamline the process.
http://www.icann.org/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm
WIPO is, I think, the most well known dispute resolution provider, and their website is here:
http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/
I'd read (or get an attorney that's familiar with the specifics of domain disputes based on bad faith and unlawful appropriation of a trade name to do so) the UDRP in the link at the top, and f you feel like your situation fits (which I think it probably does), file a dispute with WIPO.
Most likely, the guy who owns the name won't want to spend the time/money to fight, and will just give up the domain.
yet another reason to only go to web-specific attorneys when doing things on the internet. most attorneys don't know a thing about the web and they don't know a thing about adult.
ha that fucker i disabled his name he has sent me 3 e-mail
this is one
I have disabled the domain from the server and will stop forwarding
traffic.
Sorry this did not work out.
Boyfunk were would you find this type of lawyer
hmmmm.
well, it's a somewhat sticky issue because the owner of the domain is in the US and you're in Canada. But then again, the domain dispute process is a worldwide procedure.
The ICANN policy itself is somewhat informal, not like a full-on legal process, so you *might* be able to get through it yourself, but it certainly could be helpful to have some advice from a specialist.
You could start by contacting the provincial bar association (barrister's association up there?) and asking for a referral. What you want is someone that is specifically familiar with Internet law, intellectual property and domain name disputes. Usually (in the US, at least), the attorney will give you an inexpensive initial consultation to determine if s/he can help you.
One other thing to be aware of: Many attorneys have a habit of claiming ability to handle cases they have no expertise in, and then they bill you, and you get to pay for the time it takes for them to read up on whatever it is they don't know. So ask a lot of questions with whomever you're talking to about how many actual domain disputes that particular attorney has handled and what the outcomes were.
I echo Basschick's point... I think the majority of people treat attorneys as "one-size-fits-all", but there are really a *lot* of specialties and subspecialties, and going to someone who specializes in the issue you're dealing with, while they may be more $ per hour than a generalist, will usually save you in the long run, 'cause they'll already know the issues and what to do, and they will also most likely handle the case much more competently than would a generalist. You wouldn't go to a psychiatrist for brain surgery, you'd call on a neurosurgeon, even though both specialists are MDs; the same holds true of law.
Boyfunk the guy e-mail me he is now transfering my domain to my name yippy evreything work out good
Wow -- glad that's working out for you pierre.Quote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch
That is good news Pierre :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch
Glad everything appears to have worked itself out for you :)
Kudos to X3 also for doing the right thing :thumbsup:
Regards,
Lee
Thank you Lee i needed this domain it look like it will make me good money if he made this many sales in no time
Congratulations, Pierre!
That's an unusual occurrence that he's just transferring it to you, so my hat's off to ya!
From the looks of things he is webmastering the Jason Adonis site, and it wouldn't be a good idea for an active member in adult to hijack domains within the industry.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
Pierre, I'd contact your processor and see about withholding his payment. You shouldn't have to pay him a cent for hijacking your name and capitalizing off free SE traffic.
Matt please tell me what i should tell my proccessor company
Well I don’t know about that, he did just give up the domain with out much of a fight at all, I might just let the 5 sales he made go as a show of good faith, but I am a bit of a softy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z
I'd focus on two things...Quote:
Originally Posted by pierrefitch
PierreFitchOnline.com was registered on 8/23/04. PierreFitch.com was registered just 7 days earlier.
Him being an employee of Falcon sure makes it look like he used insider knowledge to hijack the name just before the legit registration was attempted.
Then he waits a year and a half for you to open to affiliates and redirects the domain to your site. That domain is not in the SE's, so we're talking pure type-in traffic.
Nothing but bad intentions here.
Yeah Pure traffic is right
image when i use that name i'm sure it will make me plenty of money what i will do i sign up to my own program and have it redirect to my page like he did ..
Well i just e-mail myvirtualcard hope they understand!
whoa there~
I would make sure the domain name has been changed as promised before I contacted processors about withholding payment.