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That UGAS said this “you cannot have links or banners or text leading to any sites with the name "boys" in it because it does promote underage boys”
Can these people really be serious about this BS what planet are they from? Dose this example of a tittle sound like it promotes kiddy porn? “Australia Beach Boys” the word boy is the same as the word girl its not used to determine age like the word preteen does WTF :wtf:
How many of use the word boys some place in our sites, come on get real, hell allot of my feeds and movies have that word some place
Yahoo has 2,450,000 listings for twink boys
there are many pay per click search engines that also won't allow the use of the words "boys" or "girls".
why not just work within the rules and make your money? just maybe ugas - who uses jeffrey douglas, one of the most respected attorneys in our industry - knows something you don't.
It's just a case of someone going with the "ultra safe" level of advice they were given. I can certainly see why some companies would want to ban the word though. Especially a site that deals with a wide variety of niches like UGAS does.Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
Surfers who are into big real men go to a site that also has fresh faced 18yo twinks and sometimes they flip out because they believe they are looking at CP. Nothing will convince a stud lover that it is normal to like twinks. In their eyes if you like twinks then you must also be a ****. Having words like "boys" on such sites just adds to the confusion.
Nowadays I try to segregate the two niches as much as I can. If there is a traffic connection I'll make it very clear that the guys are 18+, and I really watch the language I use.
Matt26z that sounds like excellent advice.
jeff
Maybe its just the fact that I am gay that has given me a predisposition against pussies :sneak:
Well I think that the word “bear” does advocate bestiality and they should have banned that too.
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so you think they would be more manly to go to one of the best and most expensive attorneys in the business and ignore his advice?
you don't understand what business is, do you? you think it's all a game and a gamble. some of us do what we think will protect our businesses, make it stronger, make it less vulnerable through legal channels - or any other channels. that's what responsible business owners do.
do you also not lock your domains to show you're not a pussy?
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Originally Posted by maxpower
The word “bareback” promote unsafe sex and is illegal is some states
The word “gay” is seen by many to be immoral, and promoting deviant lifestyles
All of these “Str8 Bait” sites promote a kind of rape
US military sites break the “not ask don’t tell” law
I can go on and on, but the point is that once you start banning words where is it going to stop? UGAS is one of the largest online gay companies, but instead of leading the fight for all of us they are hiding behind a bunch of lawyers. I guess I can not expect someone like you to understand that, but I do not just make gay site to make money. I believe it is a good way to desensitize people, normalize us to the public, and show the next generation that not all gay people are like the media wants to portray us. You not being a gay male I can see how that might escape you.
Just stop whining and deal with it. You want the easy entry into the biz so you do twinks. Apparently you didn't do any research to find out the advantages or disadvantages of such a decision.
Your immaturity and unprofessional approach to this business is tedious.
If you're not creative enough to promote "young men over the age of 18" then you're not going to last much longer. Don't blame it on the people that take this business seriously.
you're just throwing out what you think, and that's only supposition based on your personal belief of morality.
you seem to have a lot of trouble understanding this but ugas isn't guessing and choosing arbitrary words. they paid very large amounts of money to one of the top lawyers who works only in our industry and who knows which words have already been attacked in court because he researched the hell out of it.
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Originally Posted by maxpower
I don't know much about AVS/AEN sites and their situation with Visa. I recall they were on shaky ground awhile back. Visa had this idea that AVS sites were actually 3rd party processors for the sites under them and that those sites should be bound to the Visa regs (which frown upon the word boy). Could this have something to do with that?
If not, my money is still on confused surfers resulting in the ban of the word.
Sometimes it's not about sticking up for what is legal. The decision to ban something can be about unwanted attention. Among certain audiences, the word boy can cause confusion. Plain and simple.
What the fuck are you talking about? No it isn't! Bareback sex is not illegal in any states as long as it's between consenting adults. Although gay sex (aka. sodomy) was illegal in 13 states until The Supreme Court ruled on Lawrence v. Texas and negated all State sodomy laws in October of 2003.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
Btw, are you sure UGAS forbids "boy"? Recently you accused Mancheck of not allowing some things but you were confusing it with Mansites. If you search for "boy" on UGAS you will find plenty of listings.
Ya that’s what UGAS told me 2 day ago? I don’t know why they would have links in their own site that has that word, but who know what they are doing, like too many bigger sites they have too many chiefs and almost no Indians.
Hey Xstr8 you know UGAS better than me can I ask you a question? I know your banners have to be 450X100 or less but can I have 2 per page or will they just allow only one? They are really hard to get a straight answer from and really I can not find a list of their rules anyplace :argue:
ugas rules regarding banners on their participating sites. preferred and platinum have different rules:
"You may not have more than 2 banners on your front end pages, and no more than one banner per page, including content pages, max of 5 banners total in your content pages."
Ok Thax, I was told to be listed I could not have any banners in the unprotected areas at all? I hope hey will look the other way on the 5 banners total cuzz some of my sites have 6 content pages. I really wish they would publicly post all these rules, but I guess if they did people like me would share it with the webmaster public in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
actually they probably won't overlook anything.
are you making a platinum site? i don't think that they're allowed to have banners in the tour. otherwise you can't have banners on your main page - the url that the ugas members land on.
Well really as I recall its a participating site, I don’t want to leave any of their members out, and really don’t care about making upsales for their other programs.Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
UGAS just e-mailed me and said:
The site is now listed. The banners were too big, and now they are ok. This template is good for listing. Thanks,
I guess the 2 banners per page where ok? Who know what’s up with them, I will send them like 6 other sites today to see if this template really is ok, or if they will find some other problem with it. I dont know why but I feel like I just won the lottery or something :honest:
Yep, that's exactly right. Patti beat me to it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
The rules are plainly listed inside the webmaster area and they are easy to understand. Platinum site only allow 3 banners in the member's area.
And if you are a trusted UGAS webmaster, they might allow you to have a few links to your hub page in addition to the 5 (or 3) banners. But don't abuse it. They will not allow links to leaky hub sites with links to competing AVS's. I think mansites isn't too picky about that but with most AVSs, it a big NO-NO.
Participating Site Requirements for the Links pages.
You must have a minimum of 50 images in your content pages.
Your site name/title, promotional language, and sample pictures must match your site content.
You cannot have any links or banners on your home page to any other site or sponsor, (Counter is acceptable.)
You may not have more than 2 banners on your front end pages, and no more than one banner per page, including content pages, max of 5 banners total in your content pages.
Your site must be on a domain name, no IP addresses allowed.
We do not accept any free hosted domains that are not part of Tri-Tech's free hosting service unless approved by a UGAS staff member.
Blind links such as (Continue here) (More pics) (Next gallery) or any other misleading practice that links to pay sites or sponsors are not allowed. This includes any banners supplied by sponsors that are designed to trick the consumer by suggesting it is one thing when it is really another.
Your site must be easy to navigate.
Multiple sites must use different content.
The use of templates in a way that degrades the quality and uniqueness of your web sites is not allowed. The more sites you register each day, the more likely our staff will scrutinize your use of templates.
No pop up consoles or entrapments of any kind.
Movie sites must have a minimum of 30 movies and 20 pictures.
Story sites must have a minimum of 30 stories and 20 picutes.
You cannot link any images or thumbnails to our sign up page. Linking them to your join page on your site is acceptable.
If you are not using our middle page, no full or half page ads are allowed unless approved by a staff member.
You can submit up to (8) eight sites per day.
All content and content pages must be hosted at the same location (host).
We do not accept Celebrity Sites or fake Celebrity sites whatsoever.
Your site cannot contain, promote, or link to any death, rape, torture, bestiality, child porn (including under aged with or without clothing), depictions of urination, or other excretory functions, hardcore facials, object insertions (other than sex toys), or any content of any kind that isillegal in the US. Meta tags promoting any of the above are also prohibited.
You cannot up sell any other AVS not affiliated with Tri-Tech any where on your site. This includes promoting, or linking to, any of your own sites using an AVS not affiliated with Tri-Tech.
Text link should be no longer than a sentence, no linked paragraph will be accepted.
Your sites content cannot have any url's on them.
Your site must be exclusive to the Preferred Program.
Sites using Copyrighted or trademarked names will not be accepted.
Btw max, if you are trying to put more than 5 banners in the member's area they might list you as a Participating site rather than a Preferred site. Preferred sites have the same membership as Participating but are listed higher on the "new" list.
Another thing they may do is approve but not list your site. Make sure there is an "L" next to your site title on the stats page.
* Added Also, Preferred sites pay-out more than Regular sites.
Ya man thax, I will try a test site as a Preferred one to see if they list it as such, do you know what I can end the site in? Right now I have it set-up in a loop, but I would like to end the site with a ad or something, what do you do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
My sites generally have a member's index page that links to 4 gallery pages. Each gallery page only links back to the member's index page (no "next" link except for Platinum sites) and my UGAS hub site. The 4th (final) gallery page has a more prominent link to my UGAS hub. Keep in mind though, if they don't know and/or trust you, they will not allow the extra links to your hub in addition to your sponsor banners.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
OK thax man, I guess for now I will just keep the loop in place, anyway it would make the sites more expectable to some other AVS service I have my eye on with this new template. :toff:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy