Hey everyone... know any good lawers specialized for Internet Porn Sites? I know of Joe Obenberger over at adultinternetlaw.com. Just wanted to know of there were other specialists in the industry.
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Hey everyone... know any good lawers specialized for Internet Porn Sites? I know of Joe Obenberger over at adultinternetlaw.com. Just wanted to know of there were other specialists in the industry.
Chad is good
Chad Bellville
his nick: ChadKnowsLaw
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Chad is our resident lawyer. Just about everyone here has only good things to say about Chad. http://www.chadknowslaw.com/
four more specialists at http://www.firstamendment.com/
i recommend lawrence walters
there's also A.J. Comparetto who has an adult legal forum at http://bbs.mediumpimpin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39
You guys are awesome... Thanks :-) I'll go and check out those leads!
Chad is the only lawyer I would use. He is the only lawyer I like, lol.
Mark
On the bus to one of the dinners at Phoenix, there were about a half dozen of the larger players in the gay marketplace (Naked Sword, Cybersocket, Pridebucks, Badpuppy, two or three others I can't remember right now) and us. We got to talking and decided that we could never sue each other since Chad represents all of us. I honestly think he's got about 70 or 80% of the gay webmaster community as clients. We are very happy with his work.
If you want another name in addition to Larry Walters and the First Amendment Law group, I'd recommend J.D. Obenberger. Been around a long time, lots of courtroom experience, very practical and down to earth. But not inexpensive :)
If you are a member of the Free Speech Coalition, they will provide you with a short list of attorneys and their fees.
Thanks again, everybody! I'll get in touch with Chad :-)
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Originally Posted by boyfunk
That is one of the best reasons I have ever heard to hire any particular attorney :groovy:
i actually have two law firms
but the one i depend on most is mainstream corporate law firm in the south that also does entertainment law...
figure they would be just as interested in keeping me out of the papers and jail as i would be... after all their clients would be all that happy that they rep a porn queen
NakedSword loves Chad! Good honest guy who works hard for us! He has our vote!
No disrespect to Chad is meant with this but.. That is actually quite worrying from a business standpoint.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
Kudos to Chad for having a great deal of gay clients however, what would happen should one of you guys decide to sue someone who was also using Chad as an attorney?
Regards,
Lee
If it is like it is here in Germany Chad would either have to drop one mandateship or the suing party would have to choose a different lawyer
Big companies have consultant-contracts with important, agressive and reputable law firms just to be save from lawsuits coming from them.
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Originally Posted by Lee
Maybe trying to work-out the problem before you jump to sue someone in your own industry and using him as a type of mediator. If an equable solution could not be reached then possibly getting another attorney if you feel you are on the losing end of said decision. I personally think we should support one another as much as possible, and suing another gay webmaster should be the last option.
*flump*Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
[picking my self up off the floor and dusting 'things' off]
WOW, you cease to amaze me, MaxV2.0
Yah, too many people are too quick to throw out that umma gunna sue your arse off threat, it makes me sick.
IF I were ever in need of counsel, I would have Chad ... as a lawyer.
Our attorney here at YNOT is awesome... Eric M. Bernstein. Extremely well versed in 1st amendment and a plethora of issues unique to adult webmasters. His website is at http://www.embalaw.com ... if you have any questions please feel free to contact me at icq 92418228 or email jay@ynot.com thanks...
The answer is simple--both parties have to get separate counsel. I will not be involved and likely drop both clients permanently for all matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Even in the event of a little spat, I will not take sides, nor help one side gain an advantage nor do I ever share information between companies. You also won't hear me talk about who is on my client list, although it seems those on my client list are very happy to be there.
Thanks to everyone that has such words of praise for me. You are almost makin' me blush again~
Ah okay, is that something that the bar association says has to happen or just something you personally would do?Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
Regards,
Lee
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Originally Posted by Lee
The Bar would actually allow me to represent BOTH sides, if I fully disclose, in writing, the conflicts that are present and get written permission from both sides to continue representation. Bar Ethics rules are weird.
My own personal ethics rules are definitely more strict than the Bar Association. I may joke about being just an Iowa farm boy, but there are things I learned growing up in rural Iowa that I still practice today, and the ethical standards I hold myself to draw very heavily from living life in farm country. You don't fuck your neighbor, you don't do anything that you would be ashamed of because everyone will find out anyway, and learn to get along because nobody is going anywhere.
That certainly makes sense to drop both clients. Because with the access a lawyer has been given by both clients prior to a lawsuit between them ever being considered, it would not be right for the lawyer to represent one over the other. How could they assure the dropped client that nothing they were made privy to during their relationship would now end up being used against them?
I think it's pretty cool that is your stance on that, and certainly seems the right thing to do.
Haha damn they are weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
How would that work in court? Would you need to move from table to table to present each parties case? LOL
I know in the UK if one party has an attorney, the other cant use that same attorney hence why i asked in the first place.
Strange stuff for sure.
Regards,
Lee
The other thing is... lawyers are like doctors, but few people get that. You wouldn't go to a orthopedist for brain surgery, so you shouldn't go to a generalist attorney for something very specialized, such as a complex intellectual property dispute or an involved employment practices dispute.
So most of the larger companies have more than one attorney. Chad is well rounded having both a pretty strong basis in criminal litigation (as a former prosecutor) and the work he's done over the past several years with specialty in the adult industry in general and 2257 in particular. But if I had the justice department breathing down my neck, I would have Chad representing me, but I'd probably also have J.D. Obenberger or Greg Piccionelli or one of the other guys that's been around for a really long time on retainer for assistance, under the "two heads are better than one" rule. I know that during the first weeks of the June 23rd 2257 issue, several of the larger players were meeting with 2 or 3 2257 specialists, getting opinions from all of them (which often didn't match) and then making the best educated decision they could.
And to comment on Maxpower's statement... yes... it is VERY easy to say "I'm going to sue your ass"... but until you've been through the process a couple times (and I don't mean small claims), you really don't have any concept of how expensive, time consuming, and unsatisfying it can be to do that. Using alternative dispute resolution (mediation/arbitration), or just simply trying to sit down and talk are MUCH better approaches for everyone.
I've settled cases where I was clearly in the right just because it wasn't worth the time or hassle to mount an offense or defense, and my time is better spent building my business. Of course, that won't always be the case, but you'd be surprised how often when you actually make the effort, you can get a satisfactory solution just by reasonable discussion.
Joe Obernberger (JD) is excellent. He represents our firm on certain issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianDN
Bill
what would be more funny is him saying soemthing then suddenly objecting to it :)Quote:
How would that work in court? Would you need to move from table to table to present each parties case? LOL
I think I've got a good idea for a porn plot now :)
HahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by collegeboyslive
Ive seen that in a movie somewhere but i cant remember which one, Liar, Liar perhaps?
Regards,
Lee
Maybe, but I don't think anybody would buy the notion that one of your models is old enough to be a lawyer. I guess that means I will just have to make a cameo appearance. :develish:Quote:
Originally Posted by boyfunk
If they did not have a problem with Doggie Howser as doctor I do not see a problem with them believe about anything. :thumbsup:
http://homepage1.nifty.com/Theater51.../dh_casthp.jpg
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Originally Posted by maxpower
But if that had been hardcore instead of sitcom it would have been child porn. So I think there would be a problem.
Well maybe, but I think the last few years of the show he would have been legal for porn movies. :D