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A simple way to calculate your rebill percentage is to take 2 consecutive complete months, divide the rebills of the second month into the new sales and rebills of the first month.
Example: 100 rebills for April / 200 total sales (rebills and new sales) for March. 100/200=.5 or 50%
NOTE: If you have multiple sites, you may make more than one selection.
LOL I can see where this is going :) If we only had a E-Lie Detector I might believe 80% of this :P
The poll is anonymous. There is no reason for anyone to lie about their rebill percentage. And since this is GWW and not GFY, I can guarantee that the results will be much more honest. ;)
I can say honestly I do make 2x+ as much in rebills everyday then I do in new sales. But I am hoping the new design and content I am adding will boost sales & rebills by adding many new affiliates. :$$$:
Right now rebills on Condom Cash are a little funky but, i think the reason for that is that ive been 'playing' with our members area trying to improve things, overall in the last month rebills are down around 7% but, im attributing that to changes ive made which, should be changing back to how i originally had the members area sometime in the next 10 minutes when the latest schedule update and template switch-back happens.
As it stands on a normal month however rebills are looking something like this for me right now...
Month 1 - 53%
Month 2 - 71%
Month 3 - 68%
Month 4 - 56%
Month 5+ - 84%
That is to say, one month after their initial signup, 53% of all members rebill, at the next billing period, 71% of the 53% that rebilled in month 1 rebill, at month 3 68% of those who rebilled in month 2 recurred and in month 4 56% of the previous months transactions rebilled again its looking like, right now, once our members hit month 5 84% of the month 4 members rebill again.
In essence, if you send a member to any of our sites on Condom Cash, you have a really good chance that you'll end up making $90+ from them over a period of 6 months breaking that down by 100 sales it works out to something like this (if my math is correct lol):
100 make you $14.97
53 make you $29.95
38 make you $44.92
26 make you $59.89
14 make you $74.86
11 make you $89.83
Those sales, after the 2nd rebill actually end up making you more than what you'd get on a PPS scale :)
Regards,
Lee
My rebill rate is over 80% but I really don't think we are talking about the same market :-)
Wow! The neumbers are all over the place. I thought the numbers would be grouped more towards the middle of the pack. Interesting.
The 70-80% people are blowing smoke up someone's ass. LOL
Ah, they are just trying to make us envious. Lol. My sites occasionally retain over 70% but over a period of several months I hover around 65-68%. So I do believe it's possible. I just wish I could get consistently above 70% myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWCren
ya think? :D
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Originally Posted by MWCren
It's an interesting Question but needs one more bit of data to make it possible to get a realistic figure IMHO.
That would be how many of the rebills you are counting in your 'second' month were in actual fact 1st time recurrers.
I have many members with me that have been with us since they first joined one of our sites 2 yrs ago.
I know my overall figures of new sales to rebills works out at a totally different percentage to my monthly income from 1st Timers/ Rebills.
No that I'm re-reading my answer does it make sense? LOL
Basically I retain 38% of my customers long term (longer than initial sign-up plus 3 months rebills)
But My 1 time Rebill rate is up at 82%
& My 2 time Rebill Rate falls to 60%
I found it can be directly linked to updates, PLUS one really weird thing...You can update a site too often! 'Go Figure!!!!!' Its weird but true!
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Example: 100 rebills for April / 200 total sales (rebills and new sales) for March. 100/200=.5 or 50%
I have to agree with ArmpitLover, your not really getting the correct % if your counting total rebills vers total sales for a month. I worked for this porn site about 3 years ago and 95% of their income at the time came from rebills. And they got 10 to 15 new members every single day of the month. But their rebill rate was only about 75%. So they way your doing it the % would come out all wrong.Quote:
It's an interesting Question but needs one more bit of data to make it possible to get a realistic figure IMHO.
That would be how many of the rebills you are counting in your 'second' month were in actual fact 1st time recurrers.
The formula is a simple calculation of rebill % and it is a legitmate statistic when comparing your website(s) to others. Lee broke his down to a finer detail and that is definitely a more valuable statistic. But I wanted to keep it simple and didn't want to muddy the waters with too many options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tristin
Understood - and that is actually how I answered your poll :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
Err yeah sorry bout that...just thought I'd share my thoughts ...Ok now back to keeping those damn surfers happy on domain #402 !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
Best
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Ok man, that makes sense. Was not tring to bite your head off or anything. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
Incidently, i have it on good authority that if your retention rate as a program owner is above 30-40% you are actually doing something really well in your members areas based on the 'standard' paysite members area many of the PPS affiliate programs have.
30-40% seems to be the figure that is tossed around by most of the large program owners i have spoken to over the past 6-9 months.
Regards,
Lee
Yep 30-40% is about right, most people want to bloviate “thax Bill O’reilly” things like this even if it is private and anonymous. :sneak: I am shocked that this tread did not turn in too a pissing contest filled with BS Spam :signhere: