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Let's all try and come up with good topics where we can all learn a bit and hopefully a certain text topic will goto page two.
Hhehehehe.
Well we can talk about that program or others you suggested to manage your members site content :) I was looking at the one you suggested, is that a really good one?
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Originally Posted by maxpower
Max,
Post a little details about what your members area goals are and maybe i or someone else can help you.
IF at first it's mostly plug in content, then don't stress right away about CMS. Stress more on a layout that you like.
Managing mostly feeds and a small amount of content that you actually have may take less time than setting up the CMS and customizing it..
To MOST I would recommend a CMS, but I am not sure that it may be right for YOU. It's just another expense that you may not need right now.
Well you said something about this one http://awizsoft.com/paysite/ I was looking at the demo, but I was wondering if I could add graphics around some of the features. Like when updating videos, the polls for voting favorite content, if it would move around the content so people would see fresh stuff they have not seen yet, stuff like that.
Despite pubic opinion, I do need something to manage my content, “or trust me I would not waist any money” and right now when I am having the graphic for my members area redone would be a good time to think about how these programs will work with said graphics. It just looks kinda plan in the demo, I was just wondering how much I can personalize it.
Some other questions I might have are, if I change hosts in the future will it effect these things?
In the future if I need a more expensive program with more features is it relatively easy change programs?
How long does it take to learn all this and set it up?
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Max,
I personally like awiz deluxe at 349. Others may say site depth or the NATS CMS.
I feel the learning curve on site depth to be higher. I know of some webmasters that have spent a lot of work customizing it.
There are certain features that I personally like aboy awiz that are easy to implement. But these features may not be what you are looking for.
To answer the questions about how easy it is to move to a different server, I really cant answer.
I did one server move with a lot of scripts, and the other hosting company really did it all for me as well as change one script I have. Others will be able to answer this better.
Concerning the learning curve, it depends on your skills i guess.
I mean try installing worpresss and change templates and get it the way you like. That's a good test of what you can do.
Well you where talking about a program that will move around content so viewers will see something new every time they come to the site will awiz deluxe do that for me?
I guess it would be easy to add the graphics around thumbnails and videos I could just do that to each of them before I uploaded the files, but could this do that for me so I would only need to upload the image and it would just put it in the frame or what ever you want to call it for me. “this would save me some time you know”
And what about the polls I see some sites that have a graphics frame around the poll will this do that for me, “I guess this question dose go back to the previous one”
As far as I know it does not.
Max,
I don't want to think I am being rude. But the best advice I can give you is contact them. Tell them what you want to do, see if it does it. My experience with that system is minimal. I have helped two webmasters set it up. One was an earlier version.
The feature that I like mose about it is it allows you to offer trial memberships, but only give say the first two clips in a series or the first 20 pics. they have to upgrade to get the rest. I dont think site depth allows this but i may be wrong. BUT, I heard the new NATS version is going to rock. But, very expensive as well.
Please contact them and ask them your questions. Then post the results on teh board. I will respect you if you can actually answer that question.
They are the best at knowing what their system does and may even be able to tell you what the next version will do.
Well then what did you use to that moved around you content to keep it fresh for you viewers? You did say you had that right? As I recall you said I should get that, I was just wondering where to get stuff like that. NATS is a bit to much for me now, kinda why I asked about how easy it would be upgrading later on
Max,
I used my own CMS.
I would give it to you, but that was two years ago. And when I launch my sites I won't use that system. It's just not polished enouh at all. And what I knew as far as php and what I know now are too different things.
I WAS working on a CMS using worpress as my members area and sortta mimicing whats on the inside on the outside. Only instead of having what on the tour link to the feed or gallery or videos, it would link to a join page.
Now I have swithed to Serendipity so that whole project is so far off. And with that I have the issue of rotating fresh galleries.
Max, visit the forums there and ask
Here is a link I found for you
http://awizsoft.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=166
It looks like if you get the deluxe version they will mod it to do whatever you want. Within reason. And if they wont go on gfy and you will find someone that can....
As far as the templates you control what borders you want around the images and all that.
One thing I like about awiz and many CMS is that when you add a new model you can have it appear in your tour without having to manually edit the tour. the script does it. And remember a s urfer may visit your tour more than once and we all know one mode they like can make a sale.
http://awizsoft.com/member1.html
This is an example.
Man, one reason i recommended this is because you seem on a budget, Its a decent price and you can pay in 3 payments.
Go to their boars and ask any questions you may have.
I believe Danger Dave used it a few years back and really liked it.
Oh Man
This is getting to be a long post. When the time comes for you to upgrade to Nats, chances are you will be using their affiliate system and teh content system. And at that point I wouldnt worry about upgrade issues as much. IF you get to that position, You will have the capital to pretty much get whatever system you want to do whatever you want via hiring someone. There are many guys that are familiar with NATS and can do amazing things for you. And anything you may want done may run you some cash, but it will be small in comparisone to what you are investing in your overall infrastructure.
I dont want to give you wrong advice. i would contact them and see what they can do.
Thats the best way.
Yes, using a CMS can dramatically affect you easily moving from hosting companies or even to another server within the same host. Most hosts will try to move programs, but invariably you'll probably find you need to have the company of the program come back in and re-install it. So make smart decisions about who you want to host with, size and speed of server you order, etc prior to starting the installation of CMS (carma, content god, awiz, sitedepth, whatever), shopping carts, affiliate tracking software (such as nats) merchant accounts, strongbox or sparta, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
There are often very specific adjustments that have to happen and customization of a server to work hand in hand with the various scripts and programs used to dynamically run a cash program of websites.
Not ususally. You'll probably need to create a subdomain to build in the new program, once it's up and running you can then redirect and delete the old one.Quote:
In the future if I need a more expensive program with more features is it relatively easy change programs?
It really depends on your cgi, php, css and smarty.php editing abilities. Editing templates is a pain in the ass and every program seems to use a different template system, database and parsing rules. Encoded backend pages aren't editable and you have to be able to understand the rules you have to work in and design AROUND the program - trying to force a design that wasn't built with their templates in mind will cause hours upon hours of agony trying to get them to work right.Quote:
How long does it take to learn all this and set it up?
Thax man I will check all that out, I just want to start off the new site on a good foot. If I am going to have to redo everything I might as well do it right, besides I really need a good idea of what to tell the designers I want my layout to look like.
Prior to ordering a design, I'd be making a decision on whether you want to use a CMS. Once you settle on which one you'll use, then find a designer that understands how to build a design to work with that template system.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
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Originally Posted by Bec
Well my members temp comes with the graphic design package I have now, and to tell the truth I know almost nothing about this stuff. What would you suggest I tell them? I guess I could ask them to wait on just the members temp.
Or is their something pretty standard I could ask for as far as a members temp?
Max,Quote:
Originally Posted by maxpower
You confuse me.
Doing it right really involes money. And this whole thing started with you and CCbill and the visa fees.
I offered you a solution that MAY not be right long term, but based on your budget, may be right for you.
IF in a separate post you could share exactly what you are doing as in as much detail as you can and your budget, you may get more specific advice that better suits you.
Some designers have NO FUCKING EXPERIENCE whatsoever with CMS's at all. ZERO. ZILCH. They are great designers, but in no ways are great w/ php scripts.
To be honest i don't think you are ready for a CMS when you launch. Grab the new version of arles. It does video now I believe. Learn css, intall a few scriots, and get some experience. Ultimately you will need to make the final decision on a CMS. AND only when you have some idea of hwat you are doing will you be able to make that decision.
And Max,
Based on the membership base you said you had, The offer to buy your site as is still stands that i made. You may want to entertain the idea.
Well we have settled that Ccbill stuff and BTW I will be adding that. I am really thinking about just going with the one you first suggested it was only like 350$ not 20,000$ man. It not that big of a deal, and I have learned how to use countless things this would just be another, I am sure I will be very frustrated for a week or so, but I will work it out. One thing about me is that I do not give up very easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by abostonboy
I really might have to have another designer go back in the future and redo it, but again that does not cost to much.
You have a suggestions of what a basic members temp should look like, what I should make sure they provide me at first?
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Originally Posted by abostonboy
Thax agien for the Very Nice offer man, but I have spent so much time, blood, sweat, and tears on this site I really do not want to sell it on what will soon be a total rebirth :1ymca:
I'm so excited... My first Thread started and I am almost at two full pages... going well.
Thank you guys for welcoming me on here.
i can tell you what hot topic will get you 6 - 8 pages and some of the better? personalities on here :goof:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kewlaidkiddd
sincerely ..."he went there!"...
p.s ~ and welcome!