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Hello guys,
in your opinion what's more productive layout between graphical and textual for TGP/CJ?
For graphical I would say TGP/CJ like that
http://blueflyadult.com/images/img/t...ilresource.gif
http://blueflyadult.com/images/img/hotmovies.jpg
and for textual layout maden just with html/css and text
Thank you :1ymca:
All the people i know that operate CJ sites have told me that 'plain' html designs with 'lots of thumbs' work best.
For TGPs it totally depends on where your traffic is coming from, where you are sending it, whether you trade using scripts or hard links, etc etc.
Regards,
Lee
If it's CJ that layout is fine.
BUT, I strongly believe that if you are creating a tgp for long term success. Text is the way to go. And build it with either your own traffic a few trades here and there, or buy traffic.
I just havent seen many TGP's that have launched in the last few years that are successful.
Succes is NOT based on traffic alone.
Well, and in your opinion what's successis based on? (Is it a correct english sentence? :D)Quote:
Originally Posted by abostonboy
text.
1. page loads faster
2. you can fit more links to galleries higher on the page
3. less bandwidth use
hey basschick, how are you? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by basschick
Well, is it for TGP, CJ or both?
search engine traffic, both to your tgp and the galleries. I have about 200 galleries that get 5-10 SE hits a day from years ago. It adds up.Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
I mean some people have a small tgp and skim so hard to get on the top of the big ones. Thats it's just a pass thru site. Surfers don't click.
And if they actuall get to a gallery link that's NOT yours (and not some other tgp), they may be so relieved that they may buy.
Traffic is ONLY good if it is productive for you.
1,000 direct link, SE, bookmarks uniques to a niche TGP can be as valuable as 15,000 to a skim the surfer to death tgp, especially if it's text. And trust me thumbs only show so much. And we all know the "BEST" thumbs get skimmed to another site. :)
And surfers do read.....Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
i know. i sometimes rewrite tour text for sites and generally there is a 15% or better increase in sales. i'm a BIG believer in text making more sales as well as bringing in search engine hits.
simons - both. you want them clicking as soon as possible.
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Originally Posted by abostonboy
Basschick,Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
I know when I help do members areas, especially my own, instead of just thumbs lead to a gallery (which many sites do), when i changed to having the thumb and a description in the members area I found members were exploring the site more. A thumb can only tell so much. And someone may not like the thumb, but may like the theme of tha gallery. Huge cumshot, etc etc.
But NOT necessarily to someone elses tgp...Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
Then you are just a distant memory. You got 1 hit out of 15,000 but what good was it? And if they come back and get the same thing again. They move on....
depends on the business model of the site.
most of the successful tgp owners i know send the first click to a gallery EVERY time. also if you're running a tgp that is building slowly with search engine traffic and only uses a toplist for trades, you have a very different animal than a trade tgp.
but either way, best to get the surfers to the gallery listings so they can either have their daily dose and bookmark your site or get traded to someone for another surfer who might like your ads more.
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Originally Posted by abostonboy
That is true as long as a surfer actually gets to a gallery...Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
Some skim so bad it's like a 1 in 10 chance.
You really need to watch your trades acrefuly. And remember you can set so you are skimming for only x amount of time, but doin it heavy, then skimming zero for x amount of time to get the bookmarkers and people in the galleries. Just how closely you watch your trades will determine your success.
After all your good and useful advices, what's your opinion about this CJs
http://www.boylove.info
http://www.young-boys.be
http://www.young-boy.be
http://www.fuckability.be
http://www.spankingsex.be
http://www.gays-sex.be
http://www.nice-boys.be
http://www.gay-hardcore.be
http://www.spank-sex.be
http://www.chilitwinks.com
It's not spam. A couple of visits from this forum, as you know, don't make me rich! :D What have I to change or fix in this CJs?
Thank you. :cheese:
There are a few sites on that list i wouldnt want traffic from :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by simons
Regards,
Lee
What and why? :develish:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Have you see some of those KIDS in the pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by simons
Regards,
Lee
All sponsors used are 2257 compliant, all models are over18 and the large part of the models are from content provider located in USA or Europe... what's scarying you? people that look young?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
How do you know all the models are over 18?Quote:
Originally Posted by sexgayfree
Yes, the fact that some of those pictures look like they are kids does scare me and i wouldnt want any traffic from them.
I think its pretty obvious to people that if you use pictures of young looking children on your sites, you are going to attract a certain 'type' of surfer, imho, that is no better than using actual child porn and i wouldnt want anything to do with it.
Regards,
Lee
How do you know that all sponsors models are over18? Do you remember the brentcorrigan case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Every webmaster can't be 100% sure that all models he is promoting are over18 but we HAVE to check all sponsor as well as we can. I use just known sponsors that use well known credicard providers (that stop processing them if they think there are any kind of cp), that have a 2257 info, that are easy to contact and no fake company, that are located preferably in america or europe, that preferably use well known content providers, that preferably doesn't support bareback sex (I think that working in twinks this is really important).
I check all I can check before starting promoting a sponsor, I decided not to promote lots of sponsors because of I was not sure about them and I don't want in any way to promote illegal porn.
Please, don't say that and don't confuse illegal porn with young (but over18) models...Quote:
I think its pretty obvious to people that if you use pictures of young looking children on your sites, you are going to attract a certain 'type' of surfer, imho, that is no better than using actual child porn and i wouldnt want anything to do with it.
All people in the world do sex with 18-19-20 years old boys, and this is totally legal, but they may look younger... And is totally legal to make a porn video with a 18 years old model. I really can't understand why do you say that if I post pictures of young looking guys on a site I'm attracting a certain "type" of surfer. I'm attracting, for example, 18 to 25 years old surfers, I'm attracting older surfers that have a 18years old partner, I'm attracting old surfers that have a 20 years old """son""", or people who have fantasies about that but that doesn't have any 18 years old partner, I'm attracting lots of people who fantasize about having a young (but in legal age) sex partner.
That's not CP and that's not promoting CP in any way...
Fair enough, you run your business that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by sexgayfree
To me, profiting from traffic sources that have a lot of questionable images on them is an unacceptable business risk and one that i wont take.
Regards,
Lee