MSII / GridMerchants aka ibill???

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08-17-2006, 04:56 PM
Chilihost

MSII / GridMerchants aka ibill???

just received this email from Viola MSII (viola@msii.info):

Quote:

Subject: Merchant Solutions International Inc.
Dear Merchant,

Merchant Solutions International is an industry leading full service solutions provider of online payment processing and internet marketing. We are a complete one stop shop for all your e-commerce needs. Our company has provided businesses worldwide with reliable billing solutions, professional-class marketing and other web related services.

We have joined with GRID to not only offer you a better solution, but to offer you a guaranteed payout option, in addition to:

Lower rates at 9.99%
Lower transaction fees
Accurate reporting and tracking tools
On-time and consistent payouts
Re-bills with higher approvals
No Visa fee
Mainstream and Adult websites

In addition we are now offering not only the lowest processing rates but also the lowest transaction fees as well. MSII products are powered by technology that integrates online payment processing, fraud control, and affiliate management.

MSII can also offer secure, scalable solutions that enable merchants to process transactions from anywhere in the world.

Please review our websites below and contact me at your earliest convenience.

http://msii.info/

http://gridmerchants.com/

Sincerely,
Viola E. De Witt
Sales Account Manager
Merchant Solutions International Inc.
viola@msii.info
954-363-4522

I thought it was strange that it was addressed to nobody so I checked the email headers and it shows this:

Received: from relay01.ibill.com (208.62.229.38)
SMTP; 17 Aug 2006 15:58:04 -0500
Received: from exch01.CORP.IBILL.COM (exch01.corp.ibill.com [10.148.100.203])
by relay01.ibill.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id

sounds like ibill have rebranded YET AGAIN. I will not be applying :cheekymonkey:

cheers,
Luke
08-17-2006, 05:00 PM
CorbinFisher_BD

Maybe they should just call themselves "SyBILL".

o.O
08-17-2006, 05:11 PM
basschick

good catch, luke!
08-17-2006, 11:30 PM
gaybucks_chip

"No Visa fees" = illegally processing offshore = going to be shut down when Visa notices.

Same shit, different day.
08-17-2006, 11:35 PM
Lee

Quote:

Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip

"No Visa fees" = illegally processing offshore = going to be shut down when Visa notices.

Same shit, different day.

The problem is, webmasters will use them because of the 'no fee' thing :(

Regards,

Lee
08-18-2006, 11:08 AM
Chilihost

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee

The problem is, webmasters will use them because of the 'no fee' thing :(

Regards,

Lee

If webmasters are that stupid that they don't even check the boards before signing up with a new processor, then maybe...just maybe... they deserve what they get.
08-18-2006, 09:33 PM
marcjacob

true.. but... what about europeon merchants like me who dont have to pay the rip off visa fees, then sign up for it.

i know ccbill dont charge for euro merchants which as far as i can tell is cool with visa so id only stick with them, these others scare me.
08-19-2006, 02:54 AM
basschick

us processors aren't allowed to process for non u.s. businesses.

the ccbill who does european webmasters is ccbill eu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcjacob

true.. but... what about europeon merchants like me who dont have to pay the rip off visa fees, then sign up for it.

i know ccbill dont charge for euro merchants which as far as i can tell is cool with visa so id only stick with them, these others scare me.
08-19-2006, 07:46 AM
marcjacob

oh, verotel do aswell. i think alot of business's started operating in europe anyway. many in london for some bizare reason. i guess there must be a business reason but i thought it was odd at the time.
08-19-2006, 01:26 PM
basschick

verotel is a well established processor - not a great one, but they've been around a while - but they are the exact opposite of what i'm talking about. i'm not saying ccbill eu is the only european processor - i'm saying no u.s. processor is allowed to process for non u.s. companies.

it's because of visa u.s. - they have a LOT of rules!

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcjacob

oh, verotel do aswell. i think alot of business's started operating in europe anyway. many in london for some bizare reason. i guess there must be a business reason but i thought it was odd at the time.
08-19-2006, 01:54 PM
tombarr

Hmmmm. Plausible

sorry, edited ... duplicate post
08-19-2006, 01:54 PM
tombarr

Hmmmm. Plausible

"Merchant Solutions International, Inc. is an industry-leading, web marketing services company based in Florida."

If it's IBill, this part is laughable....

"Our company has provided businesses worldwide with reliable, professional-class marketing, billing solutions and other web related services. We are a friendly, accessible group of seasoned professionals, digital artists, and business developers focused on making our company successful and adding value to the services we provide. Our success begins with yours."

They may have problems with Bank of America with the name...
BofA is affiliated with a "Merchant Solutions International, Inc" which is a merchant credit , atm, debit, check, merchant account processing company in Michigan.. not sure how this name will go over with the trademark people...

Once again, plausible....

"With over 10 year’s internet experience, we are able to specialize in an array of different Internet technologies used in ecommerce projects of all sizes. .."

And if IBilll, laughable.........

Merchant Solutions International, Inc. stays focused on its goal of expanding client's exposure online while tracking and improving the bottom line ROI. We have an established record for providing entire internet solutions.
...

The website colors are even the same concept..
08-19-2006, 02:12 PM
basschick

plausible? i thought the headers having

Received: from relay01.ibill.com (208.62.229.38)
SMTP; 17 Aug 2006 15:58:04 -0500
Received: from exch01.CORP.IBILL.COM (exch01.corp.ibill.com [10.148.100.203])
by relay01.ibill.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id

made this more than plausible.
08-19-2006, 02:43 PM
tombarr

IBill could be whoring out it's client email list...there has been "other" client information accidently leaked out of there before....

IBill could be mailing for them.....

Then again, it could very well be an attempt at rebirthing IBill...

My problem with that is that IBill is part of a public company....
wouldn't this type of "makeover" be something that would be in the public domain or in some sort of press releases?

Quote:

Originally Posted by basschick

plausible? i thought the headers having

Received: from relay01.ibill.com (208.62.229.38)
SMTP; 17 Aug 2006 15:58:04 -0500
Received: from exch01.CORP.IBILL.COM (exch01.corp.ibill.com [10.148.100.203])
by relay01.ibill.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id

made this more than plausible.
08-19-2006, 04:58 PM
gaybucks_chip

Quote:

Originally Posted by tombarr

My problem with that is that IBill is part of a public company....
wouldn't this type of "makeover" be something that would be in the public domain or in some sort of press releases?

I don't think public companies are *required* to do press releases, and even if they are, Ibill has done so many shady and downright illegal things, it wouldn't surprise me if they're simply pulling a George Bush and ignoring the law entirely.
08-19-2006, 05:08 PM
Xstr8guy

Quote:

Originally Posted by tombarr

Then again, it could very well be an attempt at rebirthing IBill...

Hasn't Ibill already been born again as Segpay?
08-19-2006, 06:10 PM
tombarr

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

Hasn't Ibill already been born again as Segpay?

I think SegPay is a registered UK company founded in 1999....

This one is in Florida.... hmmm
08-20-2006, 10:49 PM
hdkbill

Couldn't agree more. If your corrent processor is doing it's job, and the checks arrive on time......makes no sense to go with someone like this with such a poor track record. And, no VISA fees? ..... right!

Bill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilihost

If webmasters are that stupid that they don't even check the boards before signing up with a new processor, then maybe...just maybe... they deserve what they get.