I can't be the only one who feels that way. And it isn't about getting older or not being "hip" ... it's just that every genre seems to be cranking out complete crap. Totally disposable music ... nothing that 20 years from now we'll look back on and connect to some fond memory.
Oh yes it is! Lol. Every generation thinks that about the previous generation's music. I used to tell myself I'd always be musically hip too. But I just embrace my oldies now. I do however still enjoy most new electronica/techno/house. Thank god for Sirius!Quote:
Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER
It is just another clue to the decline of America'a collective intelligence. In a nation in decline you can expect this sort of lowering of standards.
Yes, the music SUCKS!!
Lee
i'm afraid it IS about getting older. my parents thought my music sucked when i was a teenager. my peers thought the same thing when they passed 30. i think there's always good music coming up, but you have to be willing to deal with the changes - just my opinion here, but i think change is good. it keeps us fresh.
me, i love new music and the constant evolution that music represents. i grew up in the 70's but when korn first came out, i loved their music and think their bass player is an inspiration. i loved early 90's bands like counting crows and all sorts of grunge and i own albums by system of a down and linkin park and other bands from within the last 5 or 6 years. and i love newish bands like otep and she wants revenge.
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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER
You know what they say, music is the soundtrack of our lives. I think we associate "good music" with what we consider to be great times of our life. Ask anyone what their favorite period of music is, and they will also say those were "the good 'ol days."
90's alternative will always be my favorite. Smashing Pumpkins, Green Day, Oasis, Offspring, Beck, REM and many others... they all had some really great albums out during that period, and I can't see the newer set of bands topping them.
But I'm sure someone who is 18 years old will say the same stuff in 10-15 years about Linkin Park, Fall Out Boy and Britney Spears.
well, i'm over 40 and i love music from all periods of my life - i really do :)
I like all of those, last night i just bought the new Snow Patrol album too LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt 26z
Regards,
Lee
Yeah, I agree that music is a generational thing. I love hearing my 80s music because it is what I grew up with. To today's kids... those are "oldies"... Just like the 60s tunes are "oldies" to me. My parents wouldn't enjoy the 80s stuff I like... Just like I am not in love with the stuff I hear today (for the most part).
And I also agree... thank goodness for Sirius. If you haven't checked it out, they are doing a free two day trial today and tomorrow on the Internet! See what you've been missing!
I truly love music, which is why I do not “do” TOP or POP 40. And because of that, I can proudly say that I am not at all disappointed with what I listen to! I love my tunes so much that I give it 12-14 hours of dedication, everyday! The entire time I am at work my speakers are pounding or my eyeballs are shaking (headphones).
I stopped listening to the radio (mainstream) ages ago because it simply did not please me and rarely did it radiate what I like! Okay, ONE university station plays one-hour of what I like! And the publicly funded CKUA offers -->A<-- funky show called Tongue and Groove. Am I supposed to give my time to something that offers me a few hours a week? NOT!
Give me jazz, house (disco mainly), Detroit techno, Goa trance (NO LYRICS ...trance does not have words!), black gospel (uplifting), soul, west coast R&B (no, not gangster rap! Stuff by gods like The Hardkiss Bros) and so on!
Hell, I still have not touched on the brilliant genres (started by the likes of Warp Records), previously known as “intelligent” techno (bands such as Autechre, Aphex Twin etc), or even “experimental”. Nobody listened to them because they were “too different”. Well, I that is what one thinks, odds are they returned to listening to what was comfortable (same ole).
I strongly believe the common problem is people only listen to what is fed to them! They look to popular media (news papers, magazines, music video channel) for popular opinion of --- you guessed it --- p_o_p_u_l_a_r music!
They’ll never search the obscure forums.
They’ll never go to underground clubs.
They’ll never swing their thingaling @ theYardBirdSuite!
No kidding you're disappointed - I would be to, in myself, if I did popular, simply because there is so much MORE!
I can see it now: one decides they are sick of their current favourite, so they scan until they hear a “new” station, whom is playing a tune they like (??) so they lock the dial!
WTF: the station plays exactly the same stuff, however it is fed to them by a different nanny (I refuse to soil the title DJ). Makes no sense.
When I am shopping at Winners (or other stores that play god-awful music such as classic ?? 80's ??); ripping up the slopes (skiing); playing disc-golf, kiting &/or whatever, I am constantly asked, "What is THAT your listening to – I am not familiar with it”. So, like an idiot, I proceed to explain, all the while they look at me as if I just blew hard in to a whistle.
I attribute my listening pleasure to the fact that I simply insist on walking a different line (I utterly refuse to follow trend!!!)!
Even when big badass skis come out, that EVERYBODY loves, I do not touch, because I am not interested in the cults!
One last thing: I am simply stunned at how people will embrace technology, and new innovations, and say they “love change” yet they refuse to listen to “electronic” or truly new music. And lets not kid ourselves with the I like real instruments excuse: exactly which popular artists record their albums live (no production what-so-ever, such as editing)?
I'll venture a guess and say NONE!
I don't believe new music sucks at all. As a music journalist, I'm consistently excited and energized about the spate of excellent new tunes that are still coming out year in and year out.
It depends on what you're listening to, frankly. If you're setting your dial to the local top 40 radio station, then yes, you will probably be very disappointed with the homogeny that you are presented with. Those stations only play songs from companies who pay them to give them heavy rotation. Clear Channel radio stations are from the Devil, pure and simple. Sadly, Clear Channel owns about half the fricking world right now, so chances are, if you're turning on the radio, you're hearing something owned by them. (They're also known to support Republicans and the religious right. Gee. Go figure. A major corporation investing money in a political party that kisses their ass. Never heard of such a thing.)
But contrary to what you say, music is better than ever. There are some AWESOME and HOT new bands that I love.
Seriously, anyone who says that today's music sucks just is not listening to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Rock Kills Kid, Every Move a Picture, the Strokes, the Parson Redheads, Shawn Colvin, the Pernice Brothers, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Sleater-Kinney, Razorlight, The Real Tuesday Weld, the Dresden Dolls, RingSide, Ron Sexsmith, Rufus Wainwright, Sam Phillips, the Scissor Sisters, the Silversun Pickups, Sonic Youth, Stewart Lewis, Eric Himan, Tanya Donelly, Toni Braxton, Universal Honey, Wilco, Nada Surf, The Gossip, Sondra Lerche, Goldfrapp, the Futureheads, French Kicks, Neil Finn, Everything but the Girl, Damien Rice, Mellowdrone, Bettie Serveert, the Dandy Warhols, Cracker, Corinne Bailey Rae, Chris Pureka, Cat Power, REM, Indigo Girls, the ever-brilliant Fiona Apple, or the amazing, phenomenal Regina Spektor.
And that's only scratching the surface!
Every generation wants to talk shit about the music that the younger generations are listening to. It's par for the course when you're getting older. But to say that music is no longer good just because you're getting old, crabby and too set in your ways is a big, fat, rotten, filthy, stinking lie. So there.
With the advent of do-it-yourself (DIY) and indie labels, music is, frankly, better than ever. People are becoming more liberated to say the things they want to say and really make music that matters.
The only thing you have to be is open to hearing it.
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paco
Check out "Alarm Will Sound" - if you can't find anything - they have a few things on myspace... http://www.myspace.com/alarmwillsound.
I was waiting for you ... and still am *looking up at the door*Quote:
Originally Posted by IdolKnights
Any band (2 or 20 piece) that pays tribute to AT can rock me in or out of my socks any day!
Thanks, man, for showing me there are others!
Paco, I know what you're saying, but I always have a knee-jerk reaction to statements such as these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paco
Personally, I'm really bored by people who claim they are "underground" or who insist "they go against the trends." Snooooooze!
Seriously, I know people who are such snobs they refuse to go see certain movies just because the film's budget happened to be more than $10 million. I just think that's stupid.
There is a LOT of popular culture out there that is damn good, and anyone who is so snotty that they won't partake in it just because they think themselves "superior" to it is really just an asshole, in my book. I say get off the high horse and just enjoy what's good, rather than what's part of an "agenda" to be "cool." (NOTE: That's a general statement, not directed at you personally.)
Good entertainment is good entertainment, regardless of how much money was spent on it or regardless of whether or not it happens to end up as a number one single on the radio.
The artists can't help what is done with their music once they record it. But it's still good music.
I just think that people should listen to whatever they want to listen to, regardless of who else is listening to it. Because ultimately, being "different" or "non-conformist" just for the sake of being "different" or "non-conformist" is really just as much of a trend or a movement as being trendy. It's all the same. Just be happy and enjoy what you enjoy, and let everyone else enjoy what they enjoy without being so down on it. No one is "better" than anyone else for liking popular or underground music. We're all just people who like what we like.
I dance therefore I am, I am therefore I dance!
Music is a collective of emotion and storyline. I don’t think today’s music is any different than the music crafted by artists thousands of years ago. You “could” pick it apart and apply measure, instrument and genera but at their core, the message is what you feel when you listen.
Some days I like one style and others I like another. I don’t typecast my music or suppress my emotions.
The style I grew up with was 40’s and 50’s soda pop. I was born in the 70’s. In itself, the soda pop style makes me think of a care free, get up and twist, have fun emotion.
I also love big band, standards, Jazz (modern, classic, acid), House, Break beat, Down tempo, jump up, tribal, Jungle, D&B, Electro (Modern and classic), Freestyle, Experimental (All forms) and so on…
If I was just into Rock, I wouldn’t look to the radio or MTV for “New” bands to follow. I would search out bands that pay homage to the style closest to what I like. Or I too whould think everything modern "sucks"
Seriously, I listen to EVERYTHING. I love folk-rock and quiet acoustic stuff just as much as I love loud, rambunctous rock and roll. If it's got melody and I can sing to it--and it touches something in me that makes me wake up to it--then I'm down with whatever genre it calls itself.
I really pride myself on being someone who's embracing of many different types of music, movies, food, and men.
I love indie rock (let's hear it for Sebodah) just as much as I can enjoy a good top 40 song (thank you, Kelly Clarkson, for "Since U Been Gone"). I love indie movies (Mean Creek, Hard Candy) just as much as I do big budget action flicks (Mr. and Mrs. Smith). I love a well-prepared meal in a high-scale Beverly Hills restaurant just as much as a burger at Fat Burger. I love thin, edgy, dorky hairy guys just as much as I can totally lust after a hot muscly blond and smooth dude.
I don't have requirements on what I'm into, so long as it's good. I wish more people in the world were as open to embracing all that life has to offer, instead of trumping up all these categories and labels and limitations that only serve to box us into our own little corners of close-mindedness and self-induced superiority. I just want to be be open to as much as I can be.
That said, you probably won't find me buying a CD by Hoobastank... well, probably EVER! :)
Ken, first that is not what I was saying. What I was saying is people that say they do not like electronica because it is not "real" do to me as you state I do to you: Zzzz...Quote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
Now that shit is beyond old and boring!
Second: I have tried to stomach some mainstream stuff, and some of my stuff ends up there. I simply hate 99% of it. So?
Not for me. If th@'s for you GR8!
Third: I never said I was "underground" as I know it's been swallowed up by the big monster. What I said was many do not go to underground clubs, because they are different (dark, no booze, EXTREMELY LOUD and THUMP THUMP thumping).
Of course people should listen to what they like - I never said they shouldn't. What I did say is: just taste the other flavours!
Hmm - I guess I need to start weaving in a straighter line as it seems many can not follow my stitching.
p.s. If you think I am "angry" or a "pessimist" you oh-so very wrong!
But I do not blame you as I know you can not see my pragmatic smile ;)
No worries, Paco. Like I said, I have a knee-jerk reaction to hearing someone criticize the mainstream. It's become such a "trend" to devalue or dismiss anything "popular," and I just find it to be really, really tiresome and dumb. I wasn't trying to attack you personally. I'm sure you're much more well-adjusted than that. I was more speaking out in general than I was directly to you. Your statement just gave me the jumping-off point to speak my mind. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Paco
Ken - all is good! I understand (and know) that I am a somewhat forceful every now and then.
Thanks for putting up with me.
~Placido
Wow Space Glider, looks like you hit a nerve.
Yay!!! :donmike:
I love when people get into discussions like this one. Excellent job.
Now, one thing that nobody seems to have hit on... Space Glider... what kind of music do you like? If you are saying that today's pop music isn't as good as the new wave and punk from the 80's and 90's then we may have an entire different discussion than if you are saying Brittney Spears and Christine Agublablabla aren't as good as Prince and Madonna Mach 1.
Ken, I went through a period of being one of those snobs who reject everything mainstream. But I've learned to take things at face value. I still hate most of the popular music today, but only after actually listening to it. I mean, I heard SexyBack by Justin Timberlake and wanted to rip my ears out. There's no music there, no melody, no heart and no soul. However, I could listen to O Superman by Laurie Anderson for hours and there you have a monotone vocal sample that runs through the entire 8 minute piece, sparce keyboards, and an almost spoken vocal. Hardly "musical" but I love it. Although I think it has a lot more heart and soul to it then Sexyback. Okay, I will say it. I usually hate commercial music because I know it's all formula crap made just to sell records, but you know, sometimes I find beauty in a billboard, sometimes I sing commercial jingles all day long and sometimes I like commercial drek that is made just to sell records. It's what Ken was saying, if you like it then like it, no matter where it came from or what the intention behind it is.
Now, (catching a breath) Space Glider, I was feeling the same thing you were, very unhappy with the state of music today and frustrated by the inability of finding ways to hear new music. Then I discovered the All Things Go music blog. Now before anyone goes crying about the whole filesharing issue, keep in mind that although you can get a lot of free music here, they intention of the blog is to expose people to new artists and I have gone right to my iTunes and purchased music from bands I've discovered here because I would have never heard of them otherwise. And the fun thing is that they put together "MixTapes" which is like when your friend gives you a CD (or a cassette like back in the day) of songs they want you to hear, with a custom made DIY cover. They actually reproduce this on the site. You download the songs, print out the cover and make your own mix CD. And if you like the songs you check out more by those artists.
I hightly recommend this site for anyone who wants to explore new music way better than what they play on the radio (in my humble opinion, of course).
Oh wow, my tastes vary. Beach Boys (from Pet Sounds onward) Talking Heads. Beatles (from Rubber Soul onward) George Clinton and all of his bands (Bootsy's Rubber Band, Parliament, Funkadelic, Brides of Funkenstien etc.) Queen, The Gap Band. Relevant Rap of the past (Ice Cube, Digital Underground, De La Soul and all the "Native Tongues", N.W.A.) Earth Wind and Fire, Kate Bush, Sly and the Family Stone, Joni Mitchell, Outkast, the Bee Gees, Tom Tom Club, Spandau Ballet, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, B-52's ... I like so MUCH. But I've found, to my surprise, that my tastes are nearly as varied as some peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
I'm giggling. You know - O Superman and "melody" .... I've never really associated those two together. Well I guess so. And I do have trouble thinking of anything today that would compare to 1980s avant garde.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
O Superman Video on YouTube
I was amazingly fortunate to just happened to have had a group of friends in school who were amazingly smart, and we fed off each other nicely with music such as this. In fact to this day, if I ever dream and remember it, I'm back in Arlington, Texas.... a place I haven't physically returned to in years.
Comparing Justin Timberlake to that is like apples and oranges. Don't forget that while we were listening to Laurie Anderson, most people were listening to David Lee Roth and Quiet Riot.
My friend, you and I probably going to be the last still standing from that old school.
Steve
Oh, I didn't mean to compare Justin Timberlake to Laurie Anderson by any means, I was just saying that my arguments against some of today's pop music could very well be used against me in my own music. It's like when Michael Jackson's Black or White came out. I was bitching to high hell that the repetitive guitar and the samples bothered me but then my favorite song at the time was Rush by Big Audio Dynamite which had, you guessed it, a repetitive guitar line and samples. So when called on it, I learned not to make generalizations.
But I have hope, dear friend. The fact that Laurie Anderson's epic saga of United States parts 1 though 4 is available on CD and not even out of print. So there's gotta be something to the fact that they are kept in the Warner Bros. catalog. :)
I didn't have other friends to expose me to cool and unusual music. I somehow latched on to Blondie and The B-52's early on, and the soundtrack of Pretty In Pink got me to seek out and explore bands like The Psychedelic Furs, The Smiths and New Order when I'd never even heard of them before. And my one saving grace was a show called "Alive From Off Center", which exposed me to a lot of avant garde performers. It was here that Laurie Anderson did a whole episode where she created a digital "clone" of herself, only to have it turn out as a three foot tall man.
I do find it ironic that my earliest exposure to underground and avant garde music was on Saturday Night Live. For those of you who weren't around in the 70's and early 80's, decades before the musical guests of SNL were pop stars de jour, you could find bands like Sun Ra, Capt. Beefheart, The B-52's (before Rock Lobster became a frat party fav), Talking Heads and many other unusual acts.
Oh great, I'm gonna have O Superman in my head all day now. LOL!
Alive from Off Center.
See.... how telling. How many 16/17 year old teenage guys were sitting at home late late on their Saturday night watching PBS? :bow:
Steve
It's funny but "Rock Lobster" was my least favorite B-52 song. And I don't think any of the songs on my favorite B-52 album "Bouncing off Satellites" became even minor hits.Quote:
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Don, I was lucky enough to have an older gay friend who turned me on to TONS of strange, weird, avante garde music, like Jane Siberry, Meryn Cadel, Mary Margaret O'Hara (sister to actress Catherine, FYI), Marianne Faithfull, and yes, Laurie Anderson. I actually saw Laurie in concert twice in D.C. She was great. I have a very deep love of anything unique and underground, as long as it's actually GOOD. I don't love it just for the sake of it being underground.
I have to disagree with you about "SexyBack," though. Even though I, too, disliked it upon first hearing it, I've since grown to totally love it. It's repetitive and hooky, yeah, but upon hearing it a third and fourth time, it started to get into my head, and now I find it to be very melodic and totally sensual and aggressive in its sexuality. Which I love. It's total pop, but as a pop song, it's great. The rest of the album is great as well. Justin really did bring the sexy back. :)
Ken, in order to bring sexy back you had to give it away in the first place, and he thinks he's doin' us a favor. I don't think so. (tee hee)
The reason that it's stuck in your head is not because it's good it's because all those bleeps and blips are specially constructed to embed themselves in your brain. Haven't you seen the Manchurian Candidate??? My God, man! Save yourself!!!!!!
But seriously, Space Glider, given the type of music you like, I think you'll dig that blog I was talking about. And Rock Lobster will always be one of my favorites because it was the first B-52's song I ever heard. But She Breaks For Rainbows is right up there along with it. Bouncing is a great album but it's a little sad for me because it sounds like a collection of solo tracks from each of the members instead of the band working as a whole, and Tony Mansfield's Fairlight keyboard detracted from the band's signature sound. But there are songs that I absolutely love on it, and Summer of Love will always take me back, strangely enough, so the summer of 1986. I got the 12" that summer as a pre-relase promo for the album which would be released later that year and I played it to death. Do you like remixes? I made my own mega-extended mix from the 12" remix and dub tracks. Let me know and I'll send it to ya.
I didn't watch PBS on Saturday night, but I did watch it a lot. Things about it disturbed me. Like how no one noticed Sesame Street was a slum. And no one can tell me that vampire wasn't a pimp ... complete with chicken whores. The Spiderman on Electric Company looked better than the Spidey on the the Amazing Spiderman TV show ... and Mr. Rogers was coming HOME at the beginning of each episode which took place in the early morning. Where had he been all night??Quote:
Originally Posted by desslock
Yes, my parents worried about me.
I am a huge fan of comercial jingles.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
think my top 10 is loosely:
1) Mr. Bubble in th Tubble
2) There's Nothing Like Something With Milk
3) Mama's Got the Magic of Clorox 2
4) Wrigley's Spearmint Gum (with the lyrics "Take a sniff ... pull it out ... the tastes is gonna move you when you pop it in your mouth" ?!?!)
5) Zoom Zoom Zoom
6) The Snack That Smiles Back (Goldfish)
7) My Buddy
8) Mervyn's Department Store("Dear Mr. Mervyns, I hope you're alive ... but if you're not, I'm sorry")
9) You Can Roll a Rolo
10)They Call that Kid a Crackerjack
Honorable Mention: That's Life (Sanyo)
Did you make those up??? LOL! Okay, who are you? Where are you from? You are just too damn cool.Quote:
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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER
Your parents aren't the only ones who are worrying about you... ;)
Music is all relative, and people are all contradictory. It's funny how I can say I HATE HATE HATE Gwen Stefani's wretchedly bland, predictable crap (like that atrocious "Hollaback Girl"--UGH!) one minute but want to tap my feet along to Fergie's "London Bridge" the next. Weird.
I love Madonna, but I can't stand Britney or Evanescence.
I'm not real big on commercial jingles, but really... is there anything more representative of "pop culture" than that? :)
It's all good to me. Well, mostly anyway. There's a lot I dont like (and can't stand), but I'm actually happy that there's a lot MORE that I do like. I'm all over the place when it comes to music. It sometimes makes my friends go wacky when we're on road trips and I have my iPod on shuffle, but to me, variety is the spice of life. :)
As an aside, this right here is the reason I do not assign ratings, ranks or scores to the movie reviews on FriskyFans. People ask me why avoid this, because almost all other sites and magazines assign scores.
I just talk about the good parts of the movie, which, if that particular reader happens to appreciate, should hit the right notes.
Since two perfectly intelligent people can watch the same movie.... or listen to the same song..... or eat the same food, and have completely different opinions, I don't rank them.
It's like when one person sits dowm to guacamole and chips, and find it a delicious appitizer. The next person will frown down at the same guacamole and only thinks how it looks like it just came out of a baby.
Steve
You wouldn't get very far in the entertainment journalism industry then. LOL! Of course everyone has different opinions. In my line of work, however, we are expected to offer critical analyses of movies and always point out what we didn't like about them, rather than write something positive simply for the sake of writing something positive. I suppose point of view is cultivated over time from viewing a lot of entertainment. I've been a movie buff since I was a tiny kid, and I consider myself an expert on good storytelling and on being able to pinpoint what is "good" or "bad" about any given movie. Of course, I acknowledge that many people will disagree with me, but I can't let that stop me from giving my personal opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by desslock
For instance, I think the upcoming movie Fur starring Nicole Kidman as photographer Diane Arbus is quite possibly the best film I have seen all year, but I'm quite prepared for many to pan it. But that doesn't mean I am wrong about it being one of the best films of the year.
I place a lot of value in criticism. I don't always agree with it, but I am much more likely to go see a movie that gets good press than I am to see one that is ravaged by the critics, unless it's a movie I was intent on seeing to begin with. I think as long as the critic explains why he or she thinks something is only deserving of one or two stars, I'm fine with them using a ratings system. In fact, I prefer it. It's stronger, not so wishy-washy. It's all about being able to back the review up with a good, solid analysis.
You know, you have a good handle on writing movie reviews, Ken, but I'm amazed at how many of the reviews I read totally suck. I read a capsulized review of a new romantic comedy that the reviewer didn't like, they gave the premise in one line and then said something like "It's not very fun, the guy gets the girl in the end and everyone lives happily ever after. Don't bother." Now, we know in most romantic comedies the guy gets the girls, but once in a while he doesn't. And why not leave that up to the audience goer to see. Almost all the reviews I've read lately give the ending away or at least some major plot point that is supposed to be a surprise. I'm at the point now where I don't even want to read them anymore.
The worst review I've ever read was for Dazed and Confused, I film I really liked. Now, I can respect someone else's viewpoint and I rarely expect people to share my like and opinions on movies unless they are as strange and twisted as I am, however, this guy actually said, "...in this coming of age film nobody comes of age". First of all, it was not a coming of age film at all, it was a slice of life film. And what a lame ass statement, "nobody comes of age". Even if that was his opinion he could have stated it a little better. I was half expecting to read, "Me not like movie, it not make me feel good". Grrrrr.
Oh, yeah, I should have qualified my statement to say: "I place a lot of value in GOOD criticism." :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
I've read some pretty bad reviews as well. I guess I mostly read reviews in Rolling Stone, Entertainment Weekly and Premiere, where their writers know how to review movies.
I'm from California and those are real comercial jingles. I've always loved things like jingles and TV show theme songs (R.I.P.). Can't stand it that, during the hoiday season, Toys R Us no longer uses their old "I Wanna Be a Toys R Us" kid ad. That was really catchy. :kid:Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike
Right on. I think people who write, whatever the capacity is, are more conscious of other people's writing.Quote:
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Right on. Well, if you're near SoCal you should come to the next webmaster lunch. Hey everybody, when are we having the next webmaster lunch. I smell a new thread. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER
I was told by my creative writing teacher in college that "Great writers are great readers," so you would probably be right on that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by DonMike