Any one know of an emo/goth twink sponsor?
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Any one know of an emo/goth twink sponsor?
Let me know, too. I won't promote them but I will join the site! :P
I wanted to get a paysite shot filling this niche ... I did a lot of research, and realised its near impossible, at leaste in the UK
Here is why:
1. Despite what you may think, most emo/goths are not gay. They are actually straight, and have weird "gothett" girlfriends lol. Do some searches on social networking sites, and u will soon start to see a pattern.
2. Yes, there are a number of gay emo/goth types. The problem is, most of them grow out of this stage by the time they are 18. Most of them are 14- 16 years old, but again there are some who are gay and over 18.
3. The major hurdle! Goth/Emo types are usually far from "outgoing". The idea of someone seeing them naked would scare this shit outa a lot of them. Gathered this info from friends i have now, and ones when i was at school.
Now sure, you could, like most things, fake this, However its hard. If you want make a normal guy look like a scally/chav.. its easy. Stick him in some sportswear, give him a cap, and off you go with the camera.
Now, if you get a normal guy, and want to make him into a goth/emo, and have it look LEGITIMATE, its a much harder. You can tell if somebody is goth/emo most of the time just by looking at their hair style, and they are usually quite unique. Yes this could be solved by hair wax, or wigs, but its going to be hard to make it look good! There are also other things such as peircings and tatoos, that are a goth thing more than emo.
At the end of the day, im sure it is possible. I could pull it off if i wanted to, but i just wouldnt be happy with the results. If i did it i would want it to be legit, not faked.
If you do find any sites like this please tell me to. Would be a great seller i bet.
What does "emo" mean?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XEJDGLF-e18Quote:
Originally Posted by LavenderLounge
EMOtionalQuote:
Originally Posted by LavenderLounge
EG: A boy can cry
In a real world setting, Emo is your modern day Beatnik/punk hybrid infused with a hint of goth. (Peter Murphy goth - not Nitzer Ebb Goth)
The chicks have the more streamline Beatnik, coffee house look with a standard of Converse, striped socks, hip hugger jeans with slight flair, baby doll shirt with some kind of anime or video game logo on it, vintage 80's jelly bracelets, short cropped hair (slightly euro trash), a head band and matching elbow band (elbow band made from the stripes of an 80's tube sock and rounded out with a pair of Elvis Costello glasses.
The guys, based on the "emo" type can range from tall, skinny guys with an almost identical look to the emo girls (because gender is not an issue: Boys can cry: so what is I wear my girlfriends jeans) - To - The skater emo who doesn't have the 100% stereotype emo look. They tend to have the more 90's skater look. Baggy Dickeys, modern punk t-shirt warn over a thermal long sleeve, wallet on a chain, Emerica or Adio shoes
Emo and Goth have a lot of the same traits but, have a HUGE slice between them and are not at all the same.
[edit] And Hoodies! for all [/edit]
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Originally Posted by IdolKnights
You just described the entire population of Portland!
I think finding an emo/goth sponsor sounds like a great idea... I don't know what it is, but some emo/goth boys are freaking hot! Let me know if you find a legit one!
Tons of people say they would promote it - but no one ever builds the sites.
as i said ;) Try find the models lol
why don't you just dress up the models for a day?
If you read the first post i made in this thread Roy, it would explain :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ponyboy
Earlier this evening I had the most interesting ICQ chat with IdolKnights.
We spoke at length about this niche, and the whole 'emo' lifestyle in general.
I have decided, that later in the year, this is going to be a project of mine.
My goal is to have, by the end of the year, the most incredible, emo "twink" site. It wont be your average porn site though. Yes their will be the porn side of it, but im going to concentrate highly on the emo style, their emotional state and individually when it comes to the content, and not just on dick ;)
So if nobody does it before I do, you know where its going to come from :cheerleader:
And if you do make an emo site before I do, you really better put the effort in, because your going to have a lot to compete with! (I used to be emo, now im just a "past emo computer geek")
I hesitated before doing a shameless self-promotion, but I do have two niches within LavenderLounge.com I am calling "Punks" and "Faeries". I only have minimal amounts of content specifically for those galleries right now, but in looking ahead to the types of guys that will be showing up for auditions in San Francisco, it should be easier to fill those niches than "Surfer Twinks". I plan to start advertising for models next month.
Thank you in advance for considering promoting Lavender Lounge. My rev share sign up is at LavenderLounge.biz
Great aht you posted, but this really wasnt about the skater/punk look, which has been done many times. IdolKnights provided an excellent background and discription of emos.... and we are also on goths here.Quote:
Originally Posted by LavenderLounge
So here are some image to correct anyone in doubt
http://www.nme.com/images/84_falloutboy_L050107.jpg
This picture is of a band that UK emos LOVE called Fall Out Boy, not exactly 110% emo, but on their way :shock:
As for goths, i really cannot think of anyone better than the goth idol MR MASON HIMSELF!
http://butterflydeath.blogs.sapo.pt/...%20branco).jpg
Hope you all feel enlighened a little!
The thing to remember is that there are a lot of gay men who fetishize groups that they were either denied access to when they were younger or who view those groups as something they wish they could be but would not fit into the lives they have created for themselves. Many men get hot for military guys, sometimes they see them as the ideal men, masculine, sexy, and confident (or in some cases submissive and obedient). So they like to look at men in uniform, get dressed up in uniform, that sort of thing. Same deal with punks, jocks, and even to some extent twinks. I think a lot of older guys love twinks because they couldn't come out at an early age and in a way wish they could be twinks themselves. So the Emo thing goes right along with that. But you guys are correct in saying that if someone will do an Emo site it needs to be well researched. You can't just put a twink in a bad wig with some eyeliner and call it an Emo site. You couldn't even shoot pics of emo guys and put them in a generic site. The whole look and feel of the site needs to go with the emo mood or it won't work. Even though you're probably not going for an emo audience, the guys who fetishize emo guys are going to want to see real emo guys (or models who really look close) in their own environment.
I could have sworn that there was a "suicideguys.com" or something along those lines. And I've actually had conversations about this niche with a number of people over the last couple of months to the point where I started buying up domains but nothing has ever come out of it.
But I do agree that finding emo boys for the content would be difficult as from my experience, most of them come from well-to-do homes - so you can't bank on the desperation card. Now if you focused more on the hXc or Punk scenes, you might have better results. $0.02
Atleast in regards to the goth kids, here in Ohio, they are more than plentiful. I used to go to a "goth night" at the local club just because I liked the industrial electronic music they played. Anyways, the sexual orientation of the group was very blurred... it was like one big bisexual convention of black clothing had flocked into the club for at least that night before they all trickled back to their boring lives the next day.
Anyways, if you can find gothic guys that are interested in modeling for you, use the gay ones for action scenes and the straight ones for solos.
I think a lot of gothic guys are hot, but most of the "hotness" for me contributes from the clothes and the overall image. Take all the clothes off, and you're going to have a rather transparent anorexic thing with long hair standing in front of you. *shrugs* would definitely be interesting to see, although I hope the sex appeal stays even after the clothes.
It's like going to a sports site and seeing 2 pics of a kid in a jersey and then the rest of the set has nothing to do with football at all.
I agree though that the biggest obstacle won't be finding the models, but getting them interested in doing it. Part of the whole culture of emo and goth is the laid back, seperated type of lifestyle they chose to put themselves in. Being a gay porn star clashes with that a bit I suppose. I definitely wish you luck though, it's definitely an untapped niche at this point.
You hit the nail right on the head. Do emo guys wear eyeliner? That's one thing about the goth guys. You have them in eyeliner, black lipstick, black spiky or poker straight hair, let them strip slowly but still leave the jewelry on. There used to be an awesome magazine for goths but I don' tremember the name but they always had these hot shirtless models. It wasn't porn but you often got the feeling that the guy taking the pics was really into goth guys. The pics were usually mostly male and often had homoerotic imagery, all in black and white. Very cool stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethan Masters
Goth doesn't do much for me, but I dig the emo look.
And I don't think there'd be too much of a problem finding enough of-age emo guys. I went to a show by an indie/postrock band here just recently and I'd categorize 90% of the audience as looking pretty emo or indie hipster or a meld of both (I was in the remaining 10% hehe) and it was an 18+ show. And a lot of guys had wristbands to drink, so they were over 21.
I think the difficulties in starting up a site like this would be the same as in starting up any site focused around a very particular look and type of guy, with the added issue of the look/type involving a trend that may or may not last very long.
It's similar, in a way, to having a site all about guys with big dicks. You launch your site and it's chock fulla guys with 10''+ penises but after awhile you end up using some 7.5'' and 8'' - dicksizes that are nothing to shake a stick at and mighty fine indeed, but not necessarily what one thinks of when checking out a site that's supposed to be all about really big dicks.
Or sites that are all about football players or soccer players or ruggers and the like. After a while you can tell they just found some random dude and threw a uniform on him. Same goes for military guy sites. But at least their talent pools are larger, though a great many suffer from the same issues regardless.
I dig the emo look and usually just get my fix on that front in other porn (the occasional DVD or site that has the odd emo-lookin model).
BTW, it should be noted, I credit myself with having come up with the term "emo".
Many years ago, in the mid 1990s I was discussing a band I liked with some friends in an AOL chatroom and they were asking me to describe what this band sounded like.
"Punk-ish, but with some real emotional feelings and outbursts in it too. Not like angry punk or anything, but thoughtful, melancholy, deeeeeep emotional punk", I said.
"Emotional punk?" they asked.
"Yup. Like... emo, you could call it." I responded.
And the rest is history :D
;)
(ok ok whereas the story's itself is true, whether or not it had anything to do with the word "emo" being used to describe that type of music is still something the scholars can debate forever hehe)
I really didn't know there were straight Goth guys. I seriously thought that was just another niche beneath the "gay" umbrella.
I remember MorbidTech.com where these comely guys would be involved in a mock autopsy. Believe it or not, that was COOL. It looked great. it did the best job at balancing fantasy and reality. It looked real as far as the room and equipment and everything was concerned, but you knew it was a fantasy because corpses never looked so great.Quote:
Originally Posted by sXeRyan
I would love to find a gay goth/vampire site to promote. Pale skin and fangs makes me hard ;)
Does your celeb crush happen to be Manson :china: ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by jamdin
PLENTY of straight emo and goth guys. I agree with Sam, though, not only are they shy, but in my experience, most of them are REALLY shy about their bodies... won't even wear shorts, let alone get naked and jerk off.
The other comment I'd make is, for us at least, kids coming from money isn't a factor in their decision to do porn. I would say the majority of our models seem to be from families that have money, and their motivation to do work with us is rarely just for the money. I mean, obviously money influences the decision, but most of our models just love the visibility and attention they get from working with us.
In the last 48 hours i have manged to find 5 emo models through a small UK model agency. two 18 year olds, one 19 year old and two 20 year olds. They are all pretty hot to :cheerleader:
Emo site will be going ahead, yay
He's one of them ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by samebb