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http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/pu...php?opid=52286
Im not quite sure what to think of this myself, my gut tells me yet again this is another reason why you folks are scumbags however, im really hoping this is just some kind of oversight on your part.
Why are you allowing a torrent site to publish ads on the AVN network?
For a company that claims to be an industry leader, you sure do like shafting people in the adult industry an awfull lot as of late $0.02
Regards,
Lee
That's really interesting, I'm not even sure what to think about that... I mean it's way tooooo obvious to be
a.) a mistake
or
b.) to have some deeper meaning that I can't see at this point
Strange.
Im sure its a mistake, an oversight, a glitch and AVN will pull them as soon as they see this thread ;)
After all, AVN is an industry leader and as such, holds itself to the highest standards possible :bigears:
Regards,
Lee
I just sent them an email asking them to remove and block the site from their ad network.
Let us know what they say please Keith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titanmen
Regards,
Lee
We are looking into this right away.
I just noticed this post when I signed onto GWW this morning.
Also... Keith, thank you for sending the email over to us to alert us about this post.
Regards,
Ken
What have you found out about this?
Was it a 'glitch' in the system?
Regards,
Lee
Just giving this another bump so AVN doesnt forget about giving us their excuses :0)
Regards,
Lee
Has the ad been removed ? Be interesting to hear how it got in, to begin with, but if its at least gone, that is something, I guess :kickcan:
No AVN is still allowing ad buys on ThePirateBay and they seem to be ignoring us yet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaystoryman
Regards,
Lee
The answer is that AVN is not profiting from torrent sites, but one of our business partners (AdBrite) is.
If you've been following the thread on GFY, you might have seen some of the posts from other AVN reps, like this one from MJ:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...6&postcount=43
Or this one from our publisher, Farley:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=140
Other than that, there's not a whole helluva lot I can tell ya. You cannot access The Pirate Bay via AVN Ads. Obviously, we do not support torrent sites, but there are other companies that do. Make your own judgments if you want about the partnership we have with AdBrite, but there's no money coming in AVN's door off torrent sites.
Actually, Lee, that's not the case. The thing is, besides me, nobody from AVN has the time to wade through catty posts from bitchy, jaded queens on a message board where the primary reason for posting seems to be spreading malicious gossip throughout the industry. I only do it because I am a glutton for punishment. But after I'm gone, I highly doubt that you'll have anyone else from AVN to kick around. Just as an FYI, so that everyone else knows that it's not that AVN isn't remaining silent on purpose. It's just that they'll be ignoring the fact that you even exist in the first place. And with good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Ken,Quote:
Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude
Thats bullshit and you know it.
Maybe you should check this url...
http://www.avnads.com/mb/commerce/purchase_form.php?opid=52286
You see the part that says 'AVNADS'?
If your going to lie to us, at least tell us you are lying or tell us you dont care what we think... Jesus.
Regards,
Lee
[edit] I see you have just redirected that link to Adbrite instead of AVNads, thats one way to do it i guess, considering it appears your company, host, phone number and tech info is the same on both of those domains LOL
Actually, Lee, I don't know it. That's what I was told this morning by my boss. And that's what he told me to post. So... there ya go. Now kindly kiss my ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Okay, you guys removed one torrent site by redirecting it to AdBrite, but a search for 'torrents' still lists a fair number of publishers all of which have illegal content on them in the directory.
Regards,
Lee
OK, but none of them are owned by AVN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
If you want to discuss it further, take it up with Farley and/or Chad. We've had a few people call us up to chat about it today already, because they cared more about the truth than about spreading gossip. That's what I call REALLY taking action.
I'll even give you the phone number. 818.718.5788
Excuse me LEE. But there was an announcement that XXXWriterDude was leaving the company. Why continue an argument when he never was an offical AVN rep?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
I have not been posting recently... who cares about me, a nobody!
If anyone does care, GWW is recently full of negative posts. No wonder many here are posting elsewhere.
Well, that's not entirely accurate. I have been employed by the company for the last two and a half years, so technically I have been a representative of the company when I'm at shows and whatnot, but I haven't been posting on GWW as an official rep for them, but more as a rep for myself as a writer who covers this industry. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wnc
I just spoke with Chad the VP and publisher of GAYVN. They have modified their account with Ad Brite so that PirateBay and other sites like this are not allowed into the AVN ad network. They have assured me they are now proactivley monitoring the websites allowed into their Ad brite netowrk so that this does not happen again.
Ad Brite is the third party ad sales that handles all the actual sales. Kind of like Google Ad Words.
If anyone sees anything like this again please just let me know and I'll try and take care of it.
Unfortunately, there's not much I can do about Ad Brite still selling ads for Pirate Bay and others. Trying to go after a Swedish based site like Pirate Bay is too expensive to fight the legal battle. ;-(
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Originally Posted by Titanmen
And THIS is how it should be done, ladies and gentlemen! :)
Thanx, Keith, for taking matters into your own hands with this. It's great to see a true example of someone being proactive rather than reactive. Everyone should follow your example.
Keith,Quote:
Originally Posted by Titanmen
Did you check the whois information, or the registered company info for both AVNads and AdBrite?
It sure does look like they are owned by the same entity, just using different company names, just like we own GA Media and Red Bag Productions.
I really do feel you were passed off with some lame excuse, it also seems a lot on GFY feel the same way. I mean really, how many of the sites you partner with share exactly the same contact information, name servers, hosting company and billing addresses as you? LOL
Regards,
Lee
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Originally Posted by Lee
My understanding is that we shared a database with them, that's all. Beyond that, we are not affiliated with them, and cannot control what they have on their network.
If I'm not mistaken, AdBrite is Philip Kaplan's site (the fuckedcompany.com guy)
Might be worthwhile to give him a call and maybe talk to him about it... dunno what his stance is, but by reputation he's a pretty reasonable guy.